Tren Test Mast Stack - Third Cycle

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Everyone has been telling me to start lower with tren and mast and keep an eye on how I’m feeling and sides.

low tren is a great idea if you are going to use it at all.

Mast just doesn't have much effect at low doses and will basically be doing nothing against that level of Test plus Tren at 400/week.

 

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I get that. But people just making blanketed statements without the whole picture isn’t constructive. If they want more beta, ask a question. I’d be happy to answer.

You will be well served by reading a bunch of the intro forum threads and initial asks for advice and seeing which are well regarded and which get nothing but snark.

Meso is pretty consistent.

 

[JohnnyAction]

low tren is a great idea if you are going to use it at all.

Mast just doesn't have much effect at low doses and will basically be doing nothing against that level of Test plus Tren at 400/week.

What would be your reccomendation for mast dose against that tren at 200 and that level of test?

 

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What would be your reccomendation for mast dose against that tren at 200 and that level of test?

If it were me?

Drop the test to 500mg (or even much lower), leave the tren at 200 if you tolerate it, up the Mast to 800mg/week and adjust up if tolerated and required.

 

[JohnnyAction]

If it were me?

Drop the test to 500mg (or even much lower), leave the tren at 200 if you tolerate it, up the Mast to 800mg/week and adjust up if tolerated and required.

Appreciate all the beta. Yea, I’ve heard so many mixed reviews on tren about 50 hate and 50 love. But everyone said start low and bump up to 400, (sounds like some tolerate 600 but much more experienced )and you will know if you are a positive or negative responder.

Would 800 be the ceiling for the mast or would you bump higher mid cycle if all is going well?

I’m still curious about needing an ai on hand. In case. Same for acne. I haven’t had any response to gear with that yet, but are these things to have if shit feels bad and sides show? If blood work comes back. Etc.

 

[phenominal34]

appreciate the help, keyboard cowboy. How are you supposed to get correct information when everyone on the forum you trust is responding like a Douchebag.

You know nothing about me and you say this stuff. You’re telling me you’ve never been misinformed from a friend or an online source? I have tons of body builder friends who have no idea about what they’re doing.

Lol then you don’t have tons of “Bodybuilder” friends !!!!

Again … what was your first two cycles ?

 

[JohnnyAction]

Lol then you don’t have tons of “Bodybuilder” friends !!!!

Again … what was your first two cycles ?

I don’t think everyone experienced or not is educated properly which is why I’m asking on a forum I trust. I know a bunch of people in body building and mma who use gear that don’t know what they’re doing.

Test then test, dbol and Winnie

 

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Would 800 be the ceiling for the mast or would you bump higher mid cycle if all is going well?

You can likely go much higher and tolerate it but once you get north of 1.5g total AAS including Tren you are WELL into the point of vastly diminishing return and ever-increasing side effects for no gain.

I’m still curious about needing an ai on hand. In case

Never start a cycle without AI on hand. That said, your bloodwork is going to be far more the factor in deciding if you need to take the AI than any feels.