TrenboloneTax: Hybrid Cycling / Lifting Log aka Make Hulk Bike Fast

[Uncle Bub]

this was kind of sarcastic and intentionally missing the point that I think SubNet11 was trying to make (don't think he was referring to pregnancy, but rather just "getting bitches"). not sure if the folktale of AAS users making baby girls at a higher rate is true, but yes, my wife is pregnant with a girl

I have one friend that I know is an AAS user and he has 3 girls. He had a vasectomy after the 2nd one. Didn't feel like going to the follow up to make sure it took. Just assumed it would. Fucker then had his 3rd one.

 

[Trenbolonetax]

Question for you brother...

Are you still running cardarine? I'm about to get some and I've never tried it. Any advice for the first time user? I'm excited to try it but i don't really have any reason to use it other than that I love cardio and training so anything that helps with those things sounds appealing. Is it a compound which requires cycling or can it be run year round? Put another way, can I just add it in at 10-20 mg/day for general stamina improvement or is it something which is better saved for a specific goal such as fat loss or an endurance event? I guess I don't have a very clear idea of how damaging to one's health it might be in the long run. The whole fear of cancer thing seems overblown but, then again, would definitely suck if it's a real thing

I would not run cardarine long term. I am not running it anymore.

I would use it sparingly for a very specific purpose / goal.

I would highly suggest looking into the cancer aspect further. There is literature that suggests it is carcinogenic, and literature that suggests it has anti-cancer effects.

I do not understand cancer well, so, take what I say with a grain of salt. It seems to accelerate some cancers and seems to help reduce others. Seems like it may be context dependent. Also seems to spur the development of cancer, not just accelerate existing

I'm talking out of my ass now but perhaps due to its shifting of metabolism (fat vs sugar), it might cause certain cancers that live off sugar vs fat to accelerate / decelerate.

In summary, do your own research and diligence deeply, because I dont think the cancer risks are to be ignored. However, I think they may be overblown in some cases.

Having said all of this, I wish I used less of it over the years since I will never know if it could play a contributing role in me developing / accelerating cancer.

I would rather gamble on GH and it accelerating cancer than gamble on cardarine long term and cancer.

 

[twreck555]

I would not run cardarine long term. I am not running it anymore.

I would use it sparingly for a very specific purpose / goal.

I would highly suggest looking into the cancer aspect further. There is literature that suggests it is carcinogenic, and literature that suggests it has anti-cancer effects.

I do not understand cancer well, so, take what I say with a grain of salt. It seems to accelerate some cancers and seems to help reduce others. Seems like it may be context dependent. Also seems to spur the development of cancer, not just accelerate existing

I'm talking out of my ass now but perhaps due to its shifting of metabolism (fat vs sugar), it might cause certain cancers that live off sugar vs fat to accelerate / decelerate.

In summary, do your own research and diligence deeply, because I dont think the cancer risks are to be ignored. However, I think they may be overblown in some cases.

Having said all of this, I wish I used less of it over the years since I will never know if it could play a contributing role in me developing / accelerating cancer.

I would rather gamble on GH and it accelerating cancer than gamble on cardarine long term and cancer.

Noted. Thanks for the word of caution. I have been reading more today and might just return it. Just not sure if that's a risk I'm willing to accept, and that's ok.

 

[Benf15harp]

lol I just started some Cardarine for 3 weeks only
I’d say it’s. A zero percent chance of developing cancer in that time on 10mg per day and from my understanding the cancer aspect was derived from testing on rats that were bred to develop cancer or some shit like that and it’s actually anti-cancer. But for me I couldn’t care less about it it either way. It’s like smoking…if I smoke 3 cigarettes a day for 3 weeks I’m not getting cancer from that. Just don’t take anything in too large a dose and you’ll be peachy. Amen.

 

[Trenbolonetax]

lol I just started some Cardarine for 3 weeks only
I’d say it’s. A zero percent chance of developing cancer in that time on 10mg per day and from my understanding the cancer aspect was derived from testing on rats that were bred to develop cancer or some shit like that and it’s actually anti-cancer. But for me I couldn’t care less about it it either way. It’s like smoking…if I smoke 3 cigarettes a day for 3 weeks I’m not getting cancer from that. Just don’t take anything in too large a dose and you’ll be peachy. Amen.

I don’t disagree with your take. Except for zero percent. But I’m nit picking.

Just DYOR, and know your risk tolerance I think is what this comes down to.

Duration + dose = poison; as far as I’m concerned

The other thing to consider is how much time left on this earth to see negative implications present. If I was 65 I’d probably be less weary of using it than at 30 years old

 

[Benf15harp]

I don’t disagree with your take. Except for zero percent. But I’m nit picking.

Just DYOR, and know your risk tolerance I think is what this comes down to.

Duration + dose = poison; as far as I’m concerned

The other thing to consider is how much time left on this earth to see negative implications present. If I was 65 I’d probably be less weary of using it than at 30 years old

 

[readalot]

Duration + dose = poison; as far as I’m concerned

Good point. Appreciate your and Ben's comments.

On chronic toxicity...

TRT to Supraphysiological Levels for Body Building

So you want the easy way out by using steroids? I would flip the logic a little and argue one should take the hard way out and exhaust all the other options (get those all "right"/"correct"/"95% of perfect") before you allow yourself to consider the AAS option. (see 7:35 and 8:55 / 9:33 a...

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Or said a slightly different way:

View: https://youtu.be/mH9NzJwldok?si=UxeOfM49a284OBGT

 

[JG91]

I just love cardarine. On 20 mg a day I do the stairs for an hour and only stop because my knees get sore or I’m bored. At no point am I winded even with a heart rate 140-160.

Currently on vacation eating like shit and I’m excited to get home and blast cardarine and hit the stairs again.

I’ve read so many mixed things on the cancer risk. I won’t pretend to understand the science. I’ll just choose my bias. My bias is that I’m probably fine.

 

[Trenbolonetax]

I just love cardarine. On 20 mg a day I do the stairs for an hour and only stop because my knees get sore or I’m bored. At no point am I winded even with a heart rate 140-160.

Currently on vacation eating like shit and I’m excited to get home and blast cardarine and hit the stairs again.

I’ve read so many mixed things on the cancer risk. I won’t pretend to understand the science. I’ll just choose my bias. My bias is that I’m probably fine.

I too love Cardarine lol it’s one of my favorite PEDs

 

[twreck555]

I too love Cardarine lol it’s one of my favorite PEDs

Dammit guys you're supposed to help me make the wise decision. Alright well... maybe I'll just put it on the shelf then and save it for when I really need a boost for some reason.

 

[JG91]

Dammit guys you're supposed to help me make the wise decision. Alright well... maybe I'll just put it on the shelf then and save it for when I really need a boost for some reason.

Ya you don’t want none of this



View: https://youtu.be/1Zcrb1ff1xs?si=BE7C9-_XNsjRhucT

 

[readalot]

Keto plus cardarine blast for some serious gainz:

Rapid acceleration of KRAS-mutant pancreatic carcinogenesis via remodeling of tumor immune microenvironment by PPARδ - Nature Communications

Pancreatic intraepithelial neoplasia (PanIN) can develop into pancreatic ductal adenocarcinoma (PDAC), however, the factors which determine how this occurs are unknown. Here, the authors illustrate the role of PPARδ in the upregulation of CCL2, resulting in an immunosuppressive microenvironment...

www.nature.com

Look at the HED.

At the reasonable dosing you may fair better. Too bad they always crank on those HEDs in these studies.

 

[Trenbolonetax]

Keto plus cardarine blast for some serious gainz:

Rapid acceleration of KRAS-mutant pancreatic carcinogenesis via remodeling of tumor immune microenvironment by PPARδ - Nature Communications

Pancreatic intraepithelial neoplasia (PanIN) can develop into pancreatic ductal adenocarcinoma (PDAC), however, the factors which determine how this occurs are unknown. Here, the authors illustrate the role of PPARδ in the upregulation of CCL2, resulting in an immunosuppressive microenvironment...

www.nature.com

Look at the HED.

At the reasonable dosing you may fair better. Too bad they always crank on those HEDs in these studies.

Dang…here I was doing both Cardarine and modified ketogenic diet lmao. But I wasn’t taking 500mg of Cardarine so I’ve got that going for me

 

[readalot]

But I wasn’t taking 500mg

500 mg/day...that would be full send dosing lol.

 

[PaintDrinker]

I am intrigued by Test D solubility…that’s for sure.

On the other hand, lower concentration gear acts as a good regulator on my ability to push mg higher lol

The exact reason I grab cyp 200 lol

Thanks man...I'm definitely proud of what I've created!

SLUPPking never dies

 

[PaintDrinker]

500 mg/day...that would be full send dosing lol.

Cardarine would be my favorite if it was essentially a schedule I poison lol