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I was going to post something about this later, weaponized bro science, but it’s definitely worth keeping in mind that most of these trials basically just give you a drug that will cause you to lose a ton of weight and say “you could also eat healthier and exercise, that’ll help, good luck”. The results largely reflect what you’d expect from pharmacologically-induced anorexia. You’ll lose weight if you lean really hard on the first half of the CICO equation, that obviously works. But there’s probably low-hanging fruit for body composition improvements compared to the clinical trial results.The problem with those studies who concludes that glp 1 can make you lose muscle
The reality it’s just way harder in term of appetite to eat a lot of protein especially meat with it
And you desire to eat some meat isn’t really there
That’s probably why they lost muscles at the end
They probably didn’t workout and didn’t eat any protein at all due to the fact they are way harder to Digest (protein)
Don't really think this applies to all to our specific demographic (guys who are on AAS + GH + exercise hard and eat enough protein). In fact, lots of people lost virtually no muscle dieting HARD on just TRT + Tirz + exercise/protein.I was going to post something about this later, weaponized bro science, but it’s definitely worth keeping in mind that most of these trials basically just give you a drug that will cause you to lose a ton of weight and say “you could also eat healthier and exercise, that’ll help, good luck”. The results largely reflect what you’d expect from pharmacologically-induced anorexia. You’ll lose weight if you lean really hard on the first half of the CICO equation, that obviously works. But there’s probably low-hanging fruit for body composition improvements compared to the clinical trial results.
Absolutely, I suspect you can get much better results than seen in clinical trials if you optimize the basic things we already know about.Don't really think this applies to all to our specific demographic (guys who are on AAS + GH + exercise hard and eat enough protein). In fact, lots of people lost virtually no muscle dieting HARD on just TRT + Tirz + exercise/protein.
Yep those folks in those studies didn’t workoutAbsolutely, I suspect you can get much better results than seen in clinical trials if you optimize the basic things we already know about.
You’re competing against the “I take my shot every week and I can barely eat an entire Big Mac the next day” folks for body comp results…
What's up Meso
I am starting Triz and want to ask those who are using it for any tips when first stating
Thanks for the feedback
You can also used some omeprazole if it’s too strongI'd suggest keeping a bottle of Tums by the bed. This was a lifesaver for me. The acid reflux early on can be pretty severe. It was for me anyhow and I usually tolerate sides really well.
Maybe you used too much if you need this kind of pills ?get some orally dissolving ondasetron tablets. GLP-1s can cause nausea just on their own. i still get it and have been on these drugs for a couple of years, both UGL and pharma grade. tirz and sema.
I have tried taking var and it's just impossible. Insane acid reflux that lasts a full 36 hours if I take anavar for 2 days in a row. Antacids don't help. Could just be me.Has anyone experience any stomach issues while taking orals ( dbol,Tbol,var etc) while on Triz ?
Yep me, throwing up multiple time at the gymHas anyone experience any stomach issues while taking orals ( dbol,Tbol,var etc) while on Triz ?