TRT + to peeing clean in competition

[chocolateandjuice]

Hi all,

I'm planning to do a competitive event in July, (week 30) at which, while unlikely i'll be competing for the podium, there is a risk I could be subjected to random drug testing. I don't want to test positive as I want to be able to do events in the long-term future.
At the moment I'm on a modest dose of test and Masteron (to keep my estrogen in check as I am a high aromatizer).

So I've mapped out the below schedule from week 1 to week 30 (day of the event),
Basically I need to get all drugs out of my system by week 30, but I want to arrive at the event with the least amount of negative effects of coming off.
So my thinking is this: Wean off long esters on week 12 (which I understand have a 3 month detection time), then switch to test prop from week 13 through to week 24.
From week 24 to week 27 I plan to rely on HCG then the final 3 weeks coming off of everything.
I won't be able to use a SERM as detection times are too long.

Am I going about this the right away or am I missing something? Any ideas to make the potential come down in the last few weeks less harsh? Any constructive input is greatly appreciated.

 

[ILikeExperiments]

So if you're not running a SERM, what are you gonna do about the shutdown and low test from weeks 25 to 30?

 

[jJjburton]

Hi all,

I'm planning to do a competitive event in July, (week 30) at which, while unlikely i'll be competing for the podium, there is a risk I could be subjected to random drug testing. I don't want to test positive as I want to be able to do events in the long-term future.
At the moment I'm on a modest dose of test and Masteron (to keep my estrogen in check as I am a high aromatizer).

So I've mapped out the below schedule from week 1 to week 30 (day of the event),
Basically I need to get all drugs out of my system by week 30, but I want to arrive at the event with the least amount of negative effects of coming off.
So my thinking is this: Wean off long esters on week 12 (which I understand have a 3 month detection time), then switch to test prop from week 13 through to week 24.
From week 24 to week 27 I plan to rely on HCG then the final 3 weeks coming off of everything.
I won't be able to use a SERM as detection times are too long.

Am I going about this the right away or am I missing something? Any ideas to make the potential come down in the last few weeks less harsh? Any constructive input is greatly appreciated.
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You can run test no ester or test base? Last weeks i woukd believe as that clears very fast

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Hi all,

I'm planning to do a competitive event in July, (week 30) at which, while unlikely i'll be competing for the podium, there is a risk I could be subjected to random drug testing. I don't want to test positive as I want to be able to do events in the long-term future.
At the moment I'm on a modest dose of test and Masteron (to keep my estrogen in check as I am a high aromatizer).

So I've mapped out the below schedule from week 1 to week 30 (day of the event),
Basically I need to get all drugs out of my system by week 30, but I want to arrive at the event with the least amount of negative effects of coming off.
So my thinking is this: Wean off long esters on week 12 (which I understand have a 3 month detection time), then switch to test prop from week 13 through to week 24.
From week 24 to week 27 I plan to rely on HCG then the final 3 weeks coming off of everything.
I won't be able to use a SERM as detection times are too long.

Am I going about this the right away or am I missing something? Any ideas to make the potential come down in the last few weeks less harsh? Any constructive input is greatly appreciated.
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do untested competitions so you dont have to worry

 

[chocolateandjuice]

do untested competitions so you dont have to worry

In my sport of choice unfortunately there isn't that option.

 

[narta]

In my sport of choice unfortunately there isn't that option.

Don't cheat.

 

[chocolateandjuice]

So if you're not running a SERM, what are you gonna do about the shutdown and low test from weeks 25 to 30?

Hence running the HCG as close as possible.
HCG takes about 12 days to clear from the system, so the idea is that I'll have some test. Boosting effects of the HCG until relatively close to the competition.
I'm not competing in strength sports so a slight drop in absolute power does not concern me. If anything the weight drop from coming off will aid in my performance. But I do want the transition to "clean" to be as smooth as possible from a mental health perspective.

 

[Horror Cock]

What if there are tests that detect in picograms?

Maybe do PCT to fully recover before competition.

Maybe naloxone nasal sprays can do something as PCT and has a half life as short as TNE.

 

[chocolateandjuice]

Don't cheat.

Well, there is that, but technically that means I can't enter any official event, even non competitive because there is always a slight risk of doping control.
Also, steroids don't have noticeable performance enhancing effect in my sport. I became slower since going on TRT so I don't have real moral issues with it. Its all about power to weight in my sport so every kg gained means you just got a little slower. I gained 6kg since going on trt. (Muscle memory from a bodybuilding past)
I'm also not here to judged on a steroid forum of all places. I'm here for advice, if you can't give any, just say nothing.
Like I said, I won't be competing to make up the podium, I'll be way off that. I just want to partake in a challenge for myself.

 

[narta]

You thing being in a steroid forum makes us immoral aholes that cheat? We have coaches that refuse to train athletes that compete in tested federations. Steroid usge is ok on non tested federations.

On tested federations it's cheating.. Immoral. Frawned upon.

I hope you get caught and banned for life.

 

[marsupial]

You thing being in a steroid forum makes us immoral aholes that cheat? We have coaches that refuse to train athletes that compete in tested federations. Steroid usge is ok on non tested federations.

On tested federations it's cheating.. Immoral. Frawned upon.

I hope you get caught and banned for life.

Chill the fuck out. Plenty of his competitors are probably on juice too. If there’s money or a career on the line, they’d be too stupid not to.


If there isn’t…then it’s just a game and they can do whatever the fuck they want

 

[marsupial]

Do you have prior experience in determining how long it takes for test prop to clear from your system?

 

[Horror Cock]

Do you have prior experience in determining how long it takes for test prop to clear from your system?

Out of your system doesn't mean undetectable for example in hair.

 

[chocolateandjuice]

You thing being in a steroid forum makes us immoral aholes that cheat? We have coaches that refuse to train athletes that compete in tested federations. Steroid usge is ok on non tested federations.

On tested federations it's cheating.. Immoral. Frawned upon.

I hope you get caught and banned for life.

Mate, you're entitled to your opinion but as I said, my level of competitiveness won't exceed "partaking ". There will be ex pros there and to be competitive with them I'd have to be born again from different parents.
It's the equivalent of an ironman race, and all I want to do is finish in a time I'm targeting for my own self, just to say I did it.
Do you really think the guy behind me gives a f* he finished 102nd instead 101st because I may have had a minimal advantage because of low dose steroid use? Even if I just went to my prescribed test dose ans nothing else. TUE's aren't handed out for testosterone. So even on the bare minimum 100mg I couldn't ever do a race, ironman, ... whatever just with the ambition to finish without a risk for popping. And unfortunately, unlike in bodybuilding there is no option for untested racing. If there was, I'd do those instead.

 

[UncleBuns]

Competition stuff aside, if you have never gone to HCG then gone off cold turkey then you will have no reference for how your body will react. Personally I would want more than 3 weeks for my body to re calibrate. As long as your balls aren't fully shut down seems like a decent plan. LH and FSH come back easier than waking up leydig cells.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Mate, you're entitled to your opinion but as I said, my level of competitiveness won't exceed "partaking ". There will be ex pros there and to be competitive with them I'd have to be born again from different parents.

Yes you are right. Even the playing field with drugs.

Lol

 

[BigTomJ]

In my sport of choice unfortunately there isn't that option.

then get on legal TRT or stop cheating.
Easy

 

[narta]

all I want to do is finish in a time I'm targeting for my own self, just to say I did it.

Then why don't you take the drugs and if they pop you, they popped you, no big deal.

 

[narta]

Chill the fuck out. Plenty of his competitors are probably on juice too. If there’s money or a career on the line, they’d be too stupid not to.


If there isn’t…then it’s just a game and they can do whatever the fuck they want

So chill the fuck out! You do the crime you do the time (or get banned from the sport)

Asking for advice to cheat the system, cause I want to even the playing field is a bulshit excuse for people that aren't build to do the sport. Every fucking one of the top Olympia or strongest man in the world would be the top 10 if there weren't any drugs involved

 

[chocolateandjuice]

then get on legal TRT or stop cheating.
Easy

As I mentioned, there are no TUE"s given for testosterone, ever.
I have a prescription for the test. Admittedly, the masteron and winny additions, I could do without for sure.
But even on 75mg test, which I would argue would have no performance benefit whatsoever, would pop me if tested.