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[TNotch347]

Looks good to go?
What does that even mean?
There's oil in the vials instead of sand?

Hahahaha that’s exactly what that means.. @Steroidnewb5 what was t/a start to finish? Payment to door..

 

[MisterSuperGod]

Hahahaha that’s exactly what that means.. @Steroidnewb5 what was t/a start to finish? Payment to door..

Oh, then even my bunk gear was g2g in that case. And here i killed a man because i thought his bunk gear wasn't g2g.

Guess i should apologize to his family or something, huh?

 

[Steroidnewb5]

Looks good to go?
What does that even mean?
There's oil in the vials instead of sand?

Sorry should have been more clear. But yes there’s oil in the vials, and I received everything I ordered 25 days payment to it arriving st my flat in the UK. I’ll be using the superdrol pretty soon so I’ll review that in the next few weeks.

 

[M. Tugboat]

Sorry should have been more clear. But yes there’s oil in the vials, and I received everything I ordered 25 days payment to it arriving st my flat in the UK. I’ll be using the superdrol pretty soon so I’ll review that in the next few weeks.

If you don't mind me asking, what liver protection are you gonna use?

 

[Rippidy Dippidy]

Hey man how's the iron pharma with their feedback ? Also, what are the odds of my package getting seized coming to Ontario, Canada ?

 

[Silentlemon1011]

Hey man how's the iron pharma with their feedback ? Also, what are the odds of my package getting seized coming to Ontario, Canada ?

Stay incognito much?

3rd message on meso and you tell LE what you're ordering who you're ordering from and where you live.

Facepalm

 

[TNotch347]

But they don’t know When!!!! Lol

 

[Rippidy Dippidy]

Stay incognito much?

3rd message on meso and you tell LE what you're ordering who you're ordering from and where you live.

Facepalm

You know there's 14.3 million people in Ontario right? and why would or should i care who know's what i'm ordering ? i don't give one shit

 

[M. Tugboat]

You know there's 14.3 million people in Ontario right? and why would or should i care who know's what i'm ordering ? i don't give one shit

Since you are so large with your info, would you mind giving me your credit card info?

 

[Silentlemon1011]

You know there's 14.3 million people in Ontario right? and why would or should i care who know's what i'm ordering ? i don't give one shit

Can I have your account info please.
For research purposes

 

[adnansanat]

Hey man how's the iron pharma with their feedback ? Also, what are the odds of my package getting seized coming to Ontario, Canada ?

Iron pharma is good to go!

My packages keep getting thru hard-pass customs nowadays. NZ, Aus, Italy, France and BC/Canada. Ontario should be easy. Alberta is easiest.

 

[TheObjective1]

If you don't mind me asking, what liver protection are you gonna use?

Tudca NAc combo through in CoQ10.
I do all that plus 5-htp and krill oil . as well as taurine depending.

 

[adnansanat]

If you don't mind me asking, what liver protection are you gonna use?

NAC ftw! Proven.

 

[M. Tugboat]

NAC ftw! Proven.

I was under the impression that tudca is better than nac, of course it'll be better if you take both, but just saying.

 

[adnansanat]

I respect Austinite's posts. Here's one about NAC vs UDCA,

Liver Support: NAC vs. UDCA

These two are probably the most mentioned liver supporting drugs around forums. I'll discuss the two drugs so that you can make a more informed decision. Please note that there are other great liver support methods but these are the ones I chose to compare. I will not be making any comparisons to other drugs. Please refrain from asking for reviews and/or comparisons to other drugs. These are the only two that I have ever used.

UDCA: Ursodeoxycholic acid

TUDCA is the same except it contains Taurine, hence the T. Taurine benefits will not be discussed, the following is in reference to UDCA only.

UDCA is a bile acid. (bear bile) - Pharm grade is manufactured and is not bear bile. This drug is very effective. However, my recommendation would be to use this drug for conditions such as gallstones, mainly cholesterol generated stones. I also recommend this as a preventative measure for those who are overweight and losing weight rapidly. These are natural occurrences that happen in your body. There is a reason why this drug is an Rx drug. It's used for serious conditions such as Cirrhosis of the liver, Chronic liver disease and even liver transplants rely on it to prevent rejection.

The way UDCA works is by increasing bile flow from the gallbladder to the intestine. Bile is quite toxic if flow is hindered. It decreases the amount of cholesterol your liver generates and decreases cholesterol from food. This is why it's such a great drug for preventing cholesterol stones.

Now, I know everyone is thinking of that other thread about liver protection and how it says nothing is greater. However, that thread also says there has been research on liver protection from steroids using UDCA. Please take special note of the word "research", not study. The reason I mention this is because I do not recommend long-term use of UDCA. Especially in steroid -induced liver damage cases from long cycles. If you use it, it's best used on cycle and discontinued. Either way, we know it works.

In conclusion: Yes, UDCA is very effective for use while on a steroid cycle. However, it's use is limited and does not offer benefits in other areas.


NAC: N-Acetyl Cysteine

NAC is derived from the Amino Acid; L-Cysteine. Most of you already know that this Over the Counter product is my choice. It's readily available and it's cheap. You take it for your liver, but NAC's uses and areas of benefit would shock even some of the more educated users. I'll go as far as saying many doctors are unaware of how powerful this drug really is. Let's have a look...

I'll cover the liver first since that's the main concern for us. NAC can prevent all types of damage to the liver. Whether it's alcohol damage or steroid-induced damage. NAC is a precursor for Glutathione, one of the most powerful antioxidants available in our bodies and it's very stable. Similar to UDCA, it also provides aid in bile flow and lowers elevated enzymes. Not quite as effective in the presence of stones, however, can be an effective preventative measure for cholesterol generated stones.

Here's a list of benefits NAC can provide your body:

01. Powerful antioxidant
02. Counteracts poisons (carbon monoxide, acetaminophen)
03. Treats Lung infections (bronchitis, influenza, obstructive pulmonary... yes, even you dang smokers)
04. Treats acute liver failure
05. Treats Ear infections
06. Lowers cholesterol
07. Increased immunity
08. Has a role in Energy
09. Aids with psychiatric conditions (depression, obsession, addictions)
10. Prevents kidney stones
11. Protects muscle tissue (post workout recovery)
12. Improves insulin sensitivity (gbrice!)
13. Treats stomach infections
14. Defends against stomach-ulcer causing bacteria.
15. Seriously? You're still reading? Go get some NAC!

This is why I choose NAC. It will protect my liver just as good as UDCA, but its overall benefits are unbelievable.

Doses up to 2000mg daily for prolonged periods have shown no ill effects. Doses up to 2800mg were proven safe for several months. However, we want to use NAC year round.

How to dose NAC:

600mg daily year round. Increase to 1200mg for an injectable steroid cycle. Increase to 1800mg - 2400mg in the presence of oral steroids . Obviously use the lower dose for mildly toxic steroids such as Anavar , and the heavier dose for toxic steroids such as Dianabol.

 

[M. Tugboat]

I respect Austinite's posts. Here's one about NAC vs UDCA,

So just NAC is better than just TUDCA?

And it's the first time I hear about liver protection with injectable steroids, let alone all year around

 

[adnansanat]

So just NAC is better than just TUDCA?

And it's the first time I hear about liver protection with injectable steroids, let alone all year around

People use NAC for prescribed drug-related liver problems as well. So I'd stick with NAC personally.

 

[Okko]

When you read medical publications about bodybuilders admitted to ER with liver issues (cholestatic jaundice resulting in sky high bilirubin levels) usually from heavy prolonged orals use, treatment is high dose UDCA which usually cure the cholestatis within a few days
Once my bilirubin went out of the norm while on trenbolone no oral and UDCA brought me back to the low level of the normal range...
I tried synthergine from synthetex and it didn't do any good to stop my climbing bilirubin level...
I swear by UDCA namely medicine URSOFALK now

 

[marco11]

Lowered my anadrol dose on the Iran hormone anadrol from 100 to 50mg because I started to feel lethargic. This pharm grade is much more potent from the ugl anadrol I've used. I'm up 8 lbs in one week lol strength is already nuts. Can't wait for weeks 2 and 3.

 

[rand0m]

Lowered my anadrol dose on the Iran hormone anadrol from 100 to 50mg because I started to feel lethargic. This pharm grade is much more potent from the ugl anadrol I've used. I'm up 8 lbs in one week lol strength is already nuts. Can't wait for weeks 2 and 3.

What else are you on?

Eating TDEE? BMR? Above TDEE?