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This reminds me of another source in this board that decided to launch its own UGL line. To avoid any further confusion/misunderstanding down the line, you should invest some time and make a post with all the relevant information that we ask every time.

Providing pictures of his lab, his brewing process, filters etc are a must. Get ahead of it now or it will blow up down the way, guaranteed.

All our Domestic injectables have grapeseed oil base, for sterilisation high heat and wet boil is used and filter size is .10

Other than that I cant send any photos for security and discretion of our producer, as time goes by positive comments will start to come here and there so people will start trusting our TP Domestic Line more :)

Also brewer has 10 year experience, he wants to stay full discreet and I respect that.
 
All our Domestic injectables have grapeseed oil base, for sterilisation high heat and wet boil is used and filter size is .10

Other than that I cant send any photos for security and discretion of our producer, as time goes by positive comments will start to come here and there so people will start trusting our TP Domestic Line more :)

Also brewer has 10 year experience, he wants to stay full discreet and I respect that.

Experienced brewer, eh?
Did he ever go by the name "Elite Labs"? :eek::D:eek::p
 
All our Domestic injectables have grapeseed oil base, for sterilisation high heat and wet boil is used and filter size is .10

Other than that I cant send any photos for security and discretion of our producer, as time goes by positive comments will start to come here and there so people will start trusting our TP Domestic Line more :)

Also brewer has 10 year experience, he wants to stay full discreet and I respect that.

Not taking sides here, and not trying to piss anyone off, but if I was a source as established as TP I would ABSOLUTELY REFUSE TO POST PICS OF THE LAB SETUP!

I have always found it to be a ridiculous request to ask sources to publically post photographic proof of manufacturing scheduled drugs.

Especially when the source has a very established customer base already.

Just too much risk involved, given the benefit.
 
Not taking sides here, and not trying to piss anyone off, but if I was a source as established as TP I would ABSOLUTELY REFUSE TO POST PICS OF THE LAB SETUP!

I have always found it to be a ridiculous request to ask sources to publically post photographic proof of manufacturing scheduled drugs.

Especially when the source has a very established customer base already.

Just too much risk involved, given the benefit.

So what? Just because he has an established customer base here does that give him free reign to skip meso etiquette in the name of his safety? What about ours? He opened a UGL line he must abide by the rules, period. This procedure happens to protect the members here, not the source.
 
So what? Just because he has an established customer base here does that give him free reign to skip meso etiquette in the name of his safety? What about ours? He opened a UGL line he must abide by the rules, period. This procedure happens to protect the members here, not the source.

First of all, what rules are you referring to? Can you post up the link to the rule(s) where this is stated?

Second of all, there are no rules here at Meso. That is the point of an uncensored forum.

Third, perhaps I failed to clarify the context in which I was attempting to state what I said, BUT my point was, TP can afford to not appease the vocal minority here who make requests/demands like "post pics of your lab" because he has enough customers (from both here and elsewhere) without doing so, that it is simply not worth the risk for him to do this.

What I was trying to say is basically...

A) successful sources do not need to take the same risks that less established sources need to take, and...

B) posting pics of an illegal drug manufacturing lab is a risk that me, Bickel29, would not take if I were a successful source

You are entitled to disagree, but there is no way I would take that risk. LE and DEA employees are competitive folks too, and having a source post up pics of his lab set up will get more attention from those lettered agency folks who don't like their noses being rubbed in it.

And for What? This source has been here for a long time now (112 pages to date) and has almost all positive reviews! Again, not worth the risk for him, whether we like it or not.
 
First of all, what rules are you referring to? Can you post up the link to the rule(s) where this is stated?

Second of all, there are no rules here at Meso. That is the point of an uncensored forum.

Third, perhaps I failed to clarify the context in which I was attempting to state what I said, BUT my point was, TP can afford to not appease the vocal minority here who make requests/demands like "post pics of your lab" because he has enough customers (from both here and elsewhere) without doing so, that it is simply not worth the risk for him to do this.

What I was trying to say is basically...

A) successful sources do not need to take the same risks that less established sources need to take, and...

B) posting pics of an illegal drug manufacturing lab is a risk that me, Bickel29, would not take if I were a successful source

You are entitled to disagree, but there is no way I would take that risk. LE and DEA employees are competitive folks too, and having a source post up pics of his lab set up will get more attention from those lettered agency folks who don't like their noses being rubbed in it.

And for What? This source has been here for a long time now (112 pages to date) and has almost all positive reviews! Again, not worth the risk for him, whether we like it or not.
I understand what you mean but it’s weird. We want pictures for validation of sanitary purposes but that would get the LAWs dick hard for TP. And as you say TP has all positive reviews so we’d want him to stay here without the hiccups of a possible breach. Kinda keep him under the radar. However now we risk injecting what could possibly be bathtub brew making assumptions just becauses he’s a good Intl source that his Dom line will meet our expectations. Ima just wait for a couple brave soldiers to test first. Or you could play it safe and add a little BA in his Dom line and refilter for a peace of mind. I’m just talking tho, just trying to understand both sides.... not to be disrespectful but the EU reseller UG line was cockballs with numbers all over the place from under dosed to super over dosed from what I’ve read so I can understand the concern.
 
I understand what you mean but it’s weird. We want pictures for validation of sanitary purposes but that would get the LAWs dick hard for TP. And as you say TP has all positive reviews so we’d want him to stay here without the hiccups of a possible breach. Kinda keep him under the radar. However now we risk injecting what could possibly be bathtub brew making assumptions just becauses he’s a good Intl source that his Dom line will meet our expectations. Ima just wait for a couple brave soldiers to test first. Or you could play it safe and add a little BA in his Dom line and refilter for a peace of mind. I’m just talking tho, just trying to understand both sides.... not to be disrespectful but the EU reseller UG line was cockballs with numbers all over the place from under dosed to super over dosed from what I’ve read so I can understand the concern.

Well said, and I like the points you make.

Again, and this is not directed at you, but my post(s) were more trying to explain and help others see TP's side of this. Not trying to tell other members whether they should agree or disagree with TP on this. Just stating that I would not take that risk.

Another aspect of this that I haven't touched on, that is relevant - is the fact that this requested "photographic proof" can be so easily faked and manipulated to appear as proof of something (a legit lab) that does not really exist. A picture of lab equipment with a piece of paper that says "Meso" next to it does not mean that the person posting it is using that equipment to make their product.
 
Well said, and I like the points you make.

Again, and this is not directed at you, but my post(s) were more trying to explain and help others see TP's side of this. Not trying to tell other members whether they should agree or disagree with TP on this. Just stating that I would not take that risk.

Another aspect of this that I haven't touched on, that is relevant - is the fact that this requested "photographic proof" can be so easily faked and manipulated to appear as proof of something (a legit lab) that does not really exist. A picture of lab equipment with a piece of paper that says "Meso" next to it does not mean that the person posting it is using that equipment to make their product.

 
Question on the Bayer primo which is working great by the way. As discussed earlier the Bayer has 1.2 ml of liquid. Does that mean its 120 ml or is it just added oil and still just 100.
 
Question on the Bayer primo which is working great by the way. As discussed earlier the Bayer has 1.2 ml of liquid. Does that mean its 120 ml or is it just added oil and still just 100.

It should be 120 mg in total, Mands' test result was 104mg/ml. In lab tests, they dont use whole oil, they just take a small sample so result is per each ml.
 
I really think you should consider a domestic remailer. I never order from sources here and you have several things I like, I’m just not comfortable with international these days.

I will consider it sir, but I would need to pay extra 50-100 usd per shipping to domestic remailer for it to be worth the effort for him. You think people would use it anyway?
 
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