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[Colt44]

So much stupid in this thread. OP you are a moron. The only thing you've said that makes any sense is UGL's suck.

Edit: my bad for the moron comment. No need to get on the defensive. Just listen to what the general consensus is here. You'll find it the same in most places that aren't trying to sell you something. Just Listen.

 

[tyy]

None of the guys itt are acting "high & mighty", they're just tryna tell you what everyone else knows, that you're at an extremely important part of your body's life & growth and to tinker with your system at this stage is foolish. You throw these names around but for every one you mention as a success there literally thousands that have irreparable damage because of what they've done to themselves. Listen to guys that have been around, that's how you gain practical knowledge, learn from the mistakes of others.

You do what you want & I don't mean to preach, but you really should do more research before you start. You're body is producing a ton of Test right now & your GH levels will never be higher. You might wanna pump the brakes just a little & look down the road 10 yrs, that's all.

Best of luck to you in whatever decision & path you take.

Okay guys....I didn't ask for advice about cycling at my age, clearly thats a decision no one can make but me. Everything in life a has a risk/reward ratio...60 percent of kids my age drink alcohol and use recreational drugs daily. I do not use any of those, i eat clean and 6/7 days. i sacrifice certain aspects of my life to be healthy. Yes, i make risks when using AAS at 19. Everyone makes risks when using AAS. Some people will die at 40 with a heart attack, others live to 95 and remain relatively fit a older ages.
Even my cycles are light as i plan on competing in Mens physique...i wont be using large doses, and never more than 2-3 compounds at once.

BIG PHARMA your story is sad, and i believe it 100 percent. I don't know the details of what he used or how long, but that is a risk EVERYONE takes.

But COME ON guys!! you know the effects/side effects opf steroids is shit compared to literally alcohol. Look at the kidney/liver damage that causes. Look how it effects babies when born, or how many deaths are cause by intoxication. But do 19 year olds drink alcohol? Of course....fuck even 14 year old do crazy shit now. Let me deal with my own punishment, shall it come. I didnt ask for your opinion on this subject. Im very confident in my knowledge of PEDs and AAs, and anything that happens to me is my fault.

So rather im a pothead hippie teenager that doesnt lift, or a committed young bodybuilder inspired to become an "monument to physical perfection" i will be roasted by you guys lol. Funny thing is if lied about my age, nobody would know nor care. I could say i do shrooms as a pre workout and all of you would laugh. but if you see im 19 i cant even joke about it... Anyway this is so off topic, ill just delete my thread in a bit.

 

[tyy]

Here's some real talk for you. .I started using gear 15 years old. I lived in a Friday night lights small Tx town, and was willing to do anything to be the best. I was given a full ride scholarship to a D1 school only to fail 2 random drug tests and kicked off the team, lost scholarship. I battled depression, addiction, and became the person I always despised. I got my shit together only to find at age 27 I have permanent hypogonadism. I got married and had to undergo serious fertility therapy to become a father. .took 2 years of pain, and failure to conceive..the weight this had on my marriage was almost unbearable. Now in my late 30's I will need TRT for the rest of my life. .sounds great right? Trt..yeah awesome! !Fuck No. .it's a pain in the ass and could have all been avoided had I not been a idiot in my youth. So yeah bro this is not a game and it can seriously impact your future..but knowing kids these days and your instant gratification mindframes none of this will impact you. .so Fuck yourself up buddy. .I sure wish I could go back and punch my child self in the mouth.

You started at 15. so much different. Thats when i started lifting... So much different. You couldnt have any idea how steroids even worked at that age. I didnt even know how protein worked at 15. You cant compare me to that. Also look at trt in older men and bodybuilders. Your the only one complaining.... Go on a forum talking about men who go on TRT. They love it..

 

[tyy]

You know what you most likely won't be doing in a few years?? Lifting.. Life will happen, hopefully you'll find a career, possibly start a family and training will take a back seat, at least for a while.

Gear should be used by responsible adults that know and can accept the possible lifelong consequences. You're a kid and from your posts here you don't have a clue.

Don't want to listen? Then stop posting and go do whatever the fuck you're going to do. Good luck.

No your wrong...Ill be on stage in a few years... And im already going to school for my PT degree, and working as a electrician assistant currently. I think alot of people on here have different goals and hate others for not having the same.. this is like arguing about religion, some people wont look at facts and examples, they want to just claim things theve never experienced and shoot down people who think differently regardless of how knowledgeable they even are..

 

[flexx89]

i hope to find a pharmacist bitch that holds it down..my old girls sister was a pharmacist..motherfuckers make 125k per year! and get to handle pharm gear. lucky

 

[CdnGuy]

No your wrong...Ill be on stage in a few years... And im already going to school for my PT degree, and working as a electrician assistant currently. I think alot of people on here have different goals and hate others for not having the same.. this is like arguing about religion, some people wont look at facts and examples, they want to just claim things theve never experienced and shoot down people who think differently regardless of how knowledgeable they even are..

19 yrs old turning 50....smarter than every member that is trying to help. When you turn PRO don't forget us little people at Meso dawg

 

[tyy]

i hope to find a pharmacist bitch that holds it down..my old girls sister was a pharmacist..motherfuckers make 125k per year! and get to handle pharm gear. lucky

Thats crazy...Might have to be a pharmacist myself.

 

[Iron born]

Not saying you won't succeed but at least have a fall back. The PT thing is a smart move. Best of luck, young man

 

[tyy]

19 yrs old turning 50....smarter than every member that is trying to help. When you turn PRO don't forget us little people at Meso dawg

I wont because Meso is where we all learn man... But it seems like your saying nobody on here is a competitive bodybuilder, or like its a negative thing. I thought this was the place all the bodybuilders get to talk about anything and educate others uncensored? Not a place for people to talk about doing a bunch of steroids and don't even look good enough to do anything with it. And anyone on here who is a successful name in the bodybuilding world, started at my age...

 

[tyy]

Not saying you won't succeed but at least have a fall back. The PT thing is a smart move. Best of luck, young man

Of course man, thats good advice, and i took it. Ive got a pretty solid path to fall back on. HAHAHA i hope everyone isn't thinking im the guy who wants have a career in bodybuilding and do nothing else besides sell sups and compete. Only the top in the entire world do that..I just want be successful with my physique as a side of being successful as a physical therapist and personal trainer or what ever i decide to do.

 

[tyy]

Not saying you won't succeed but at least have a fall back. The PT thing is a smart move. Best of luck, young man

and thanks!

 

[naturalkon]

For what it's worth. Men's physique or men's bikini as it is commonly referred to isnt bodybuilding. Just do whatever you got to do. The main difference is most of us are old enough that we either already have families or realize we don't want them. Most of these guys wish they could go back in time and change some of their choices and that's why they are trying to help. Even though if the roles were reversed we would ignore the warnings as well. That's why I don't even bother to waste my breath talking someone out of picking up cause I know I wouldn't give a shit what anyone else had said. Fuck it. I just want to get big right. But anyways man be safe and if you do go on make sure you come off every once in a while.

 

[CdnGuy]

I wont because Meso is where we all learn man... But it seems like your saying nobody on here is a competitive bodybuilder, or like its a negative thing. I thought this was the place all the bodybuilders get to talk about anything and educate others uncensored? Not a place for people to talk about doing a bunch of steroids and don't even look good enough to do anything with it. And anyone on here who is a successful name in the bodybuilding world, started at my age...

And because your so smart you completely missed my sarcastic post man. I don't hate on anyone succeeding in life. But life is a marathon not a sprint. GL

 

[tyy]

For what it's worth. Men's physique or men's bikini as it is commonly referred to isnt bodybuilding. Just do whatever you got to do. The main difference is most of us are old enough that we either already have families or realize we don't want them. Most of these guys wish they could go back in time and change some of their choices and that's why they are trying to help. Even though if the roles were reversed we would ignore the warnings as well. That's why I don't even bother to waste my breath talking someone out of picking up cause I know I wouldn't give a shit what anyone else had said. Fuck it. I just want to get big right. But anyways man be safe and if you do go on make sure you come off every once in a while.

Appreciate your advice man thanks. I agree with you, and im sure my morals will start to change be the time im older. But about the mens physique, its really blowing up and becoming popular and id love to be in their. Cycling is the plan till i need hrt when im older.. But so far ive only ran 4-8 week cycles, and never plan going over 10 weeks. Pct then plenty of time in between.

 

[naturalkon]

Appreciate your advice man thanks. I agree with you, and im sure my morals will start to change be the time im older. But about the mens physique, its really blowing up and becoming popular and id love to be in their. Cycling is the plan till i need hrt when im older.. But so far ive only ran 4-8 week cycles, and never plan going over 10 weeks. Pct then plenty of time in between.

im just not a fan of men's physique. I mean there are some guys that can crossover but it's keeping people from becoming bodybuilders because it's so much easier and a lot faster. I mean if they had to hit a couple poses or show their legs it would be different.

 

[naturalkon]

Appreciate your advice man thanks. I agree with you, and im sure my morals will start to change be the time im older. But about the mens physique, its really blowing up and becoming popular and id love to be in their. Cycling is the plan till i need hrt when im older.. But so far ive only ran 4-8 week cycles, and never plan going over 10 weeks. Pct then plenty of time in between.

And your already planning for hrt. Not good my friend. Not gonna lecture you but just realize that you're probably going to be a completely different person in 10 years with completely different goals. When I was your age all I did was skateboard. I haven't touched a skateboard in 8 years. I had done it all my life. It's a little different. But you will change and get perspective. Just hope you don't have any life long consequences.

 

[tyy]

And because your so smart you completely missed my sarcastic post man. I don't hate on anyone succeeding in life. But life is a marathon not a sprint. GL

True true....I guess im just trying to win the marathon hahah. I do appreciate criticism, because its always good to have a person counter what you believe. i still question everyday my choices, but to me they are in the right direction for my goals. Will just see what happens. i plan to be a part of Meso for a long time, and ill always post on here. Ill try to keep my age hidden however, because i don't want to give the idea teen should use aas at all..

 

[tyy]

And your already planning for hrt. Not good my friend. Not gonna lecture you but just realize that you're probably going to be a completely different person in 10 years with completely different goals. When I was your age all I did was skateboard. I haven't touched a skateboard in 8 years. I had done it all my life. It's a little different. But you will change and get perspective. Just hope you don't have any life long consequences.

I was supposed to be a tennis player. Played for 5 years and was good enough to make college teams... i skateboarded my whole life before that. 3 years ago i was into partying and drugs too...phases are inevitable, and alot of times i see people finally find something worth staying with. the last 3 years have been pretty committed to bodybuilding and i dont see it changing. it will always be a side to my career. Planning for hrt is smart so worst case i know what to expect. Its just fact that if you cycle long enough you will need hrt... Its not the worst? I can show you websites and forums full of people who love it. pinning as and old man will suck, but im sure soon chemists will make better gels and orals of test anyway. damn, by the time im old gene dopping will be the new steroid and bodybuilding will be do much different. Look how far things have come in the last 40 years!

 

[naturalkon]

I was supposed to be a tennis player. Played for 5 years and was good enough to make college teams... i skateboarded my whole life before that. 3 years ago i was into partying and drugs too...phases are inevitable, and alot of times i see people finally find something worth staying with. the last 3 years have been pretty committed to bodybuilding and i dont see it changing. it will always be a side to my career. Planning for hrt is smart so worst case i know what to expect. Its just fact that if you cycle long enough you will need hrt... Its not the worst? I can show you websites and forums full of people who love it. pinning as and old man will suck, but im sure soon chemists will make better gels and orals of test anyway. damn, by the time im old gene dopping will be the new steroid and bodybuilding will be do much different. Look how far things have come in the last 40 years!

Well can't say I probably wouldn't see things similarly at your age. Hell I have even felt the same just a year ago. But you would be surprised how many guys get a fucked up libido on trt. I have lost mine before. It was horrible. Almost ruined my relationship with my girlfriend. just a few of the things I didn't consider. But I'm about to get some sleep. Just be safe and remember this day cause if you go down this road you will find yourself in our shoes trying to help someone younger make better choices.

 

[tyy]

Well can't say I probably wouldn't see things similarly at your age. Hell I have even felt the same just a year ago. But you would be surprised how many guys get a fucked up libido on trt. I have lost mine before. It was horrible. Almost ruined my relationship with my girlfriend. just a few of the things I didn't consider. But I'm about to get some sleep. Just be safe and remember this day cause if you go down this road you will find yourself in our shoes trying to help someone younger make better choices.

A lot of variables in that though man... Trt can be dosed wrong etc. Its supposed to increase libido given your estrogen is normal as well... But I agree, and will keep an open mind. Thanks