UKBS OWN BRAND LAUNCH - REVIEWS

I see. Well that makes sense and I'm all for random lab testing on any of the products that I sell but it is my own brand that I am responsible for so lab tests on the UKBS brand will put any doubters minds at rest.

How do we get the ball rolling?
Start by making a 1k or better donation thru the anabolic lab website. Cause personally idgaf about your gear but do care about AL.com
 
Ur not honest u piece of shit..ur a fn scammer pos wise ass cocky fuck trying to push "pharmgrade" tren...u have other websites that r bs linkes to ur ip address...and we have ur location but dnt want ur measley fn 10000 Mfer. Fuck off ur a boring loser twat. Not one person here disagrees with me before u run ur stupid face. Gnite

Nice grammar.
 
You are playing the sympathy card to get sales and it's pathetic... You know the only way you can possibly pull off sales is to try to have a kind demeanor which is NOT the picture you've painted up until this point in time.

Anyone considering buying can find a source that has a history of MUCH more professional attitude towards negative comments. If you have ANY problems with your order this guy will be a nightmare to deal with.

Trust me, I do not need or want anyone's sympathy.

You guys make me look good by default. I don't actually have to do a lot other than respond to your hate and that keeps me at the top of the news feed and in turn that gets me sales.
 
I see. Well that makes sense and I'm all for random lab testing on any of the products that I sell but it is my own brand that I am responsible for so lab tests on the UKBS brand will put any doubters minds at rest.

How do we get the ball rolling?
@Best Steroids - I would suggest making an account on AnabolicLab.com and going in the thread to request a lab be tested. State you are the owner of that lab and you are willing to make a donation upfront that will cover both purchasing your products (anonymously of course) and the cost of the lab testing.

This would pretty much show to me at least you have faith in your products.
 
Why not put up your own money up front? Don't make the members here risk their money and personal information to prove or disprove you. The onus is on YOU! YOU prove it!

Contact a lab (NOT Anabolic Lab) and get it done. Make sure its a third party accredited lab and not your bf graduate student fumbling around with a MS machine he doesn't know how to properly operate.
I am not a fan of this guys methods and wouldn't order his products for several reasons, but lets be honest, most of this forum wouldn't trust this sort of testing either, he would know what was being sent to the third party lab and take away the anonymous aspect of sending his gear to be tested and be sure to send legit shit. Which pretty much every WKM on this forum would not find to be an honest assessment of his products.

If it's not done via anonymous methods, its not worth doing.
 
Thanks for the info I will make a donation.

How do we get them to randomly and anonymously test my products?

No, you don't understand. I tried to explain but every time I make polite rational logical statements or arguments, you cannot comprehend. Your ego blinds you.

Anabolic Labs will NOT accept products from you for testing! They make coordinated but anonymous purchases for the purpose of HARM REDUCTION, NOT quality control or to check if a source is G2G.

If you want to make a donation to AL, great, but this money will not be used to directly purchase and test your products. Possibly in the future your products will be tested but you certainly will not be aware of the purchasers intent. Either way, you making a donation to AL has no baring on whether or not you get tested through that organization.

Now, if you want to test your products, find a third party accredited lab. Being in business for so many years with so much knowledge, experience, and 99% satisfied customers, you should already have quality control measures in place. RIght? :rolleyes:

And just to be clear about your testing, if you choose to do so, it will not guarantee your foot in the door to do business here. Let me be more clear - the testing is for your quality control that you should already have in place! It is not meant as a sales pitch but rather a necessary component of good business practices. The fact that you don't already test your products with a third party it another red flag (of many) and reason people here will never consider you.
 
I am not a fan of this guys methods and wouldn't order his products for several reasons, but lets be honest, most of this forum wouldn't trust this sort of testing either, he would know what was being sent to the third party lab and take away the anonymous aspect of sending his gear to be tested and be sure to send legit shit. Which pretty much every WKM on this forum would not find to be an honest assessment of his products.

If it's not done via anonymous methods, its not worth doing.

I understand what you're saying and I agree that his test data would be taken with a grain of salt. However, the purpose of his testing should be for internal quality control measures, not as a sales pitch to win us over. This guy is so full of himself yet he doesn't send products off to a lab (real one, not bf graduate student). He's a big bag of hot air.

Now, anonymous purchases is the best and even better they come from guys we trust around here. So, the best practice is to have a source with established quality control measures in place with posted data AND data from anonymous purchases from trusted members to compare.

Aside from all that, let me ask you a straight question: Do you think we should give this source a chance? Why or why not?
 
Aside from all that, let me ask you a straight question: Do you think we should give this source a chance? Why or why not?
I won't give him a chance because I just didn't like how he handled the insults, I don't think he has the best prices vs risk, I am not a big fan of sources having websites (I did order from Frank though), it does seem like his DOX could be tracked down, and we just have better options available if you do the research.

I agree with your statement regarding internal quality control measure, I think doing this via anabolic lab's would kill two birds with one stone for the guy.

It does see odd almost zero shills have come to this guys defense. We get some many one or two post shills for almost all the other suspect sources, so why nothing for him?

He could take a note how guys like Frank, Darius, and Al have run shit and learn a lot, but at this point he has done so much damage its going to be hard to undo that damage control.

I would say to anyone (if you exist) from Meso have bought his gear, speak up.
 
@Best Steroids - I would suggest making an account on AnabolicLab.com and going in the thread to request a lab be tested. State you are the owner of that lab and you are willing to make a donation upfront that will cover both purchasing your products (anonymously of course) and the cost of the lab testing.

This would pretty much show to me at least you have faith in your products.

Okay bro, I am willing to do that but I still think that if I state I am the lab owner and willing to pay for the cost of purchasing products and lab testing...that in itself negates any validity to the tests. For all you guys know, I could bung them an extra grand to ensure good result.

I would prefer existing members of AL to request the tests. My donation will be forthcoming regardless.

I would also like to address the common misconception that sources have a stock of good gear and a stock of shit gear and only send the good gear when they need to. Y'all need to get real here, understand that to make money, you have to sell legit products. Legit products mean return customers. Bunk products mean no one will come back and moreover your name will be tarnished and no one will buy from you. The notion that there are sources that go to the trouble of making legit gear or purchase legit gear from known brands but sell fakes, is a myth...why? There is much more money in conducting an honest business selling quality gear and providing a good service than there is selling fakes and scamming a few folk until you get found out...it really doesn't make sense!!
 
I won't give him a chance because I just didn't like how he handled the insults, I don't think he has the best prices vs risk, I am not a big fan of sources having websites (I did order from Frank though), it does seem like his DOX could be tracked down, and we just have better options available if you do the research.

I agree with your statement regarding internal quality control measure, I think doing this via anabolic lab's would kill two birds with one stone for the guy.

It does see odd almost zero shills have come to this guys defense. We get some many one or two post shills for almost all the other suspect sources, so why nothing for him?

He could take a note how guys like Frank, Darius, and Al have run shit and learn a lot, but at this point he has done so much damage its going to be hard to undo that damage control.

I would say to anyone (if you exist) from Meso have bought his gear, speak up.

He, you, or I cannot do testing through AL. It doesn't work that way. AL coordinates the anonymous purchases. The only influence we have in the choice of purchase is to suggest UGLs and/or products we would like to see tested.
 
I understand what you're saying and I agree that his test data would be taken with a grain of salt. However, the purpose of his testing should be for internal quality control measures, not as a sales pitch to win us over. This guy is so full of himself yet he doesn't send products off to a lab (real one, not bf graduate student). He's a big bag of hot air.

Now, anonymous purchases is the best and even better they come from guys we trust around here. So, the best practice is to have a source with established quality control measures in place with posted data AND data from anonymous purchases from trusted members to compare.

Aside from all that, let me ask you a straight question: Do you think we should give this source a chance? Why or why not?

You obviously haven't read the whole thread, I do get my gear tested for my own peace of mind. I explained that I have a biochemist friend that tests my gear with a mass spectrometer. He can't print off results because that would lose him his job but the fact I can't post results means nothing except that I am honest because trust me, it is very easy to doctor a printout and post it.

I am confident in my gear and I don't play silly games.

You have all made the option of members posting results, an absolute no no because of the way you attack anything and everything to do with my business.
 
I won't give him a chance because I just didn't like how he handled the insults, I don't think he has the best prices vs risk, I am not a big fan of sources having websites (I did order from Frank though), it does seem like his DOX could be tracked down, and we just have better options available if you do the research.

I agree with your statement regarding internal quality control measure, I think doing this via anabolic lab's would kill two birds with one stone for the guy.

It does see odd almost zero shills have come to this guys defense. We get some many one or two post shills for almost all the other suspect sources, so why nothing for him?

He could take a note how guys like Frank, Darius, and Al have run shit and learn a lot, but at this point he has done so much damage its going to be hard to undo that damage control.

I would say to anyone (if you exist) from Meso have bought his gear, speak up.

There are no shills because that is not the way I work. It is dishonest and against my business ethic.

My reputation (not on this forum) speaks for itself. The quality of my products and my professionalism keep my business thriving. Like I said before, I have never met this kind of hostility before and reacted n an unprofessional manner...that does not make me a bad source or make me a scammer.

I apologize to anyone that has been offended by my knee jerk reactions to the hate on this board.
 
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You obviously haven't read the whole thread, I do get my gear tested for my own peace of mind. I explained that I have a biochemist friend that tests my gear with a mass spectrometer. He can't print off results because that would lose him his job but the fact I can't post results means nothing except that I am honest because trust me, it is very easy to doctor a printout and post it.

I am confident in my gear and I don't play silly games.

You have all made the option of members posting results, an absolute no no because of the way you attack anything and everything to do with my business.
And I am the real Bob Dole. Sorry, but it's just words if you can't provide proof.
 
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