UKBS OWN BRAND LAUNCH - REVIEWS

statements like that man are just better kept to yourself. we are the end users of a very shady game. bloodwork, labmax, SIMEC - these are the few things we have at our disposal to verify the stuff we are injecting into our bodies are legitimate. Don't discredit those because you disagree with them. I don't think you meant it in a bad way, so i can't knock you for it. But understand people fork over their hard earned money expecting mutual trust and respect and legitimate products. Often times we get burned, not to mention risk our own health. This might explain why we are a bit jaded and cautious, not to mention the potential jail time..
its just an all around crap shoot.

I didn't discredit anyone. My point was that I don't think you need to get blood work done to know if the gear you are buying is good. It's expensive and only proves the gear has hormone in it. Sure go ahead and get blood work done if you can afford it but it isn't necessary if it is just proof that the gear you are buying is good, that you want. The proof of the pudding is in the eating!
 
This is true, but in a world filled with shills (for all the UGL's), "good to go" is just not enough for the educated and experienced users.

Perhaps, but shills are quite capable of fabricating blood results and posting fake data too (for or against).

I think the one thing we have established here is that I will not shill or ask anyone to shill on my behalf so good feedback from a respected member is likely to be believed...especially after the hounding I have received. I do however believe this is improbable, as no one regardless of hierarchy is going to want to come out in defense of me.
 
Perhaps, but shills are quite capable of fabricating blood results and posting fake data too (for or against).
I agree, I could photoshop results in less than five minutes, but such is still life here on Meso.
I think the one thing we have established here is that I will not shill or ask anyone to shill on my behalf so good feedback from a respected member is likely to be believed...especially after the hounding I have received. I do however believe this is improbable, as no one regardless of hierarchy is going to want to come out in defense of me.
I have to agree with you on this in some ways, Naps gets a few shills a week because of the incentives they offer, so I have no doubt if you offered similar incentives we would see the same response from shills. The bottom line is that you are not going to turn the majority of the regulars/WKM's on this forum. Your best bet is to stop responding to the hate posts and just post your deals and updates. If you search other threads you will see that other UGL's do just that.
 
I don't know what offer you're referring to?

The problem with other forums is - they aren't MESO. They aren't uncensored, they're filled with paid shills and sponsors, they are controlled and tampered with.

Trust me, this forum is filled with shills too...the fact that it is uncensored actually contributes to the sheer number of them. It is a total misconception that having an uncensored board means you will get legit reviews whether good or bad.

At least most other forums, paid or not, discourage shilling, actively hunt them down, censor proven shill reviews and ban shill members. I know it still goes on but at least it is kept to a minimum.

My offer was for a respected high ranked member to anonymously make a purchase of my UKBS branded product, use it and get back to me with feedback. I will then refund your cost or credit you against future orders whether the feedback is good or bad.
 
I agree, I could photoshop results in less than five minutes, but such is still life here on Meso.
I have to agree with you on this in some ways, Naps gets a few shills a week because of the incentives they offer, so I have no doubt if you offered similar incentives we would see the same response from shills. The bottom line is that you are not going to turn the majority of the regulars/WKM's on this forum. Your best bet is to stop responding to the hate posts and just post your deals and updates. If you search other threads you will see that other UGL's do just that.

Good advice and something I have been trying to do of late. You don't know how hard it is to bite my tongue though lol.
 
I didn't discredit anyone. My point was that I don't think you need to get blood work done to know if the gear you are buying is good. It's expensive and only proves the gear has hormone in it. Sure go ahead and get blood work done if you can afford it but it isn't necessary if it is just proof that the gear you are buying is good, that you want. The proof of the pudding is in the eating!

You dont think blood work is necessary because "the proof is in the eating"?
You realize how dumb you sound?

Before and after bloods will show a lpt more than if theres "hormone in it".

Labmax shows if theres hormone present.

Even as a shitty UGL you just made yourself look worse.
 
You dont think blood work is necessary because "the proof is in the eating"?
You realize how dumb you sound?

Before and after bloods will show a lpt more than if theres "hormone in it".

Labmax shows if theres hormone present.

Even as a shitty UGL you just made yourself look worse.

I know before and after bloods will show a lot more than if there is just hormone in the gear. I said it's great to get blood work done if you can afford it but not everyone can. My point was that it is not necessary to get blood work done if all you need to know is if the gear is good. If you can't tell that simply by using it, then the gear is crap.

If you think everyone gets before and after bloods done with every cycle, you are living on cloud cuckoo land.
 
I know before and after bloods will show a lot more than if there is just hormone in the gear. I said it's great to get blood work done if you can afford it but not everyone can. My point was that it is not necessary to get blood work done if all you need to know is if the gear is good. If you can't tell that simply by using it, then the gear is crap.

If you think everyone gets before and after bloods done with every cycle, you are living on cloud cuckoo land.

No. You said exactly what I quoted, which was "it's expensive and only proves the gear has hormone in it"..."the proof of the pudding is in the eating"
 
You have "pharmaceutical grade" tren listed. My first clue it's already bunk as fuck. I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt but after viewing your site I'm even less convinced.
 
I know before and after bloods will show a lot more than if there is just hormone in the gear. I said it's great to get blood work done if you can afford it but not everyone can. My point was that it is not necessary to get blood work done if all you need to know is if the gear is good. If you can't tell that simply by using it, then the gear is crap.

If you think everyone gets before and after bloods done with every cycle, you are living on cloud cuckoo land.
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