Unexpectedly low DHT

[smartgear]

I'm on a permanent blast with 300-350 mg of testosterone a week and various oral steroids are used from time to time. I'm basically switching from one cycle to another while being on a permanent blast as a testosterone base. I don't take breaks and do PCTs, because I'm brave and fearless.

I have 5,000 ng/dL of total testosterone and 117 pg/mL of free testosterone.

DHT is only 870.00ng/l, and the reference range is 219.00 - 1140.00.

I thought it will be above the reference range, but I was wrong and I don't know what is happening.

I'm planning to start using HGH to keep my GH levels at the upper end of the reference range or slightly above it, but not significantly above it.

By the time I start using HGH, my DHT should be above the reference range. Any ideas how to do this without increasing the testosterone dose? I don't know what my e2 tolerance limit is and how high testosterone doses I can tolerate without getting side effects, but I'm not taking any chances with this.

I see 5,000 ng/dL is enough to get good growth in muscle mass, and I don't want to increase the dose just to see how far I can go. 300-350 mg doesn't cause any side effects, but side effects can start at 400 mg, for example. I don't want to risk.

What should I do? Should I buy a DHT gel or what? Do DHT derivatives actually increase the DHT level or just enhance androgen receptor sensitivity without actually increasing the DHT level?

 

[jJjburton]

I'm on a permanent blast with 300-350 mg of testosterone a week and various oral steroids are used from time to time. I'm basically switching from one cycle to another while being on a permanent blast as a testosterone base. I don't take breaks and do PCTs, because I'm brave and fearless.

I have 5,000 ng/dL of total testosterone and 117 pg/mL of free testosterone.

DHT is only 870.00ng/l, and the reference range is 219.00 - 1140.00.

I thought it will be above the reference range, but I was wrong and I don't know what is happening.

I'm planning to start using HGH to keep my GH levels at the upper end of the reference range or slightly above it, but not significantly above it.

By the time I start using HGH, my DHT should be above the reference range. Any ideas how to do this without increasing the testosterone dose? I don't know what my e2 tolerance limit is and how high testosterone doses I can tolerate without getting side effects, but I'm not taking any chances with this.

I see 5,000 ng/dL is enough to get good growth in muscle mass, and I don't want to increase the dose just to see how far I can go. 300-350 mg doesn't cause any side effects, but side effects can start at 400 mg, for example. I don't want to risk.

What should I do? Should I buy a DHT gel or what? Do DHT derivatives actually increase the DHT level or just enhance androgen receptor sensitivity without actually increasing the DHT level?

Why do you want more DHT?

 

[Deleted member 59947]

I'm on a permanent blast with 300-350 mg of testosterone a week and various oral steroids are used from time to time. I'm basically switching from one cycle to another while being on a permanent blast as a testosterone base. I don't take breaks and do PCTs, because I'm brave and fearless.

I have 5,000 ng/dL of total testosterone and 117 pg/mL of free testosterone.

DHT is only 870.00ng/l, and the reference range is 219.00 - 1140.00.

I thought it will be above the reference range, but I was wrong and I don't know what is happening.

I'm planning to start using HGH to keep my GH levels at the upper end of the reference range or slightly above it, but not significantly above it.

By the time I start using HGH, my DHT should be above the reference range. Any ideas how to do this without increasing the testosterone dose? I don't know what my e2 tolerance limit is and how high testosterone doses I can tolerate without getting side effects, but I'm not taking any chances with this.

I see 5,000 ng/dL is enough to get good growth in muscle mass, and I don't want to increase the dose just to see how far I can go. 300-350 mg doesn't cause any side effects, but side effects can start at 400 mg, for example. I don't want to risk.

What should I do? Should I buy a DHT gel or what? Do DHT derivatives actually increase the DHT level or just enhance androgen receptor sensitivity without actually increasing the DHT level?

You're all over the place.

First, there is nothing "unexpected" about your low DHT, you are injecting, which is in no way conducive to T -> DHT conversion

Second, list your orals : some may be synthetic DHTs and take the place of real DHT.

Third, if you want more DHT : apply your testosterone transdermally. I have gotten testosterone levels similar to yours on my homemade transdermal with 10 times your DHT value.

 

[unrest]

You can use Testo P. Theoretically, because it is a short ester, it dissolves faster and may lead to more DHT. However, I'm not sure if this difference would be very significant.

Another option is to find a compounding pharmacy or a special method to synthesize DHT enanthate. Some Chinese chemical companies do this, but it is indeed more difficult to find.

 

[Ghoul]

Just shave off your hair in a "U" pattern and pretend it's hard to pee, and bam, high DHT simulation complete.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

username to threads ratio does not check out

 

[88general88]

I'm on a permanent blast with 300-350 mg of testosterone a week and various oral steroids are used from time to time. I'm basically switching from one cycle to another while being on a permanent blast as a testosterone base. I don't take breaks and do PCTs, because I'm brave and fearless.

I have 5,000 ng/dL of total testosterone and 117 pg/mL of free testosterone.

DHT is only 870.00ng/l, and the reference range is 219.00 - 1140.00.

I thought it will be above the reference range, but I was wrong and I don't know what is happening.

I'm planning to start using HGH to keep my GH levels at the upper end of the reference range or slightly above it, but not significantly above it.

By the time I start using HGH, my DHT should be above the reference range. Any ideas how to do this without increasing the testosterone dose? I don't know what my e2 tolerance limit is and how high testosterone doses I can tolerate without getting side effects, but I'm not taking any chances with this.

I see 5,000 ng/dL is enough to get good growth in muscle mass, and I don't want to increase the dose just to see how far I can go. 300-350 mg doesn't cause any side effects, but side effects can start at 400 mg, for example. I don't want to risk.

What should I do? Should I buy a DHT gel or what? Do DHT derivatives actually increase the DHT level or just enhance androgen receptor sensitivity without actually increasing the DHT level?

Hahahaha, miss me with that brave and fearless bullshit.

 

[Ghoul]

Hahahaha, miss me with that brave and fearless bullshit.

Nobody's fearless gripping their chest when the pump seizes up.

 

[Ateam2023]

I'm on a permanent blast with 300-350 mg of testosterone a week and various oral steroids are used from time to time. I'm basically switching from one cycle to another while being on a permanent blast as a testosterone base. I don't take breaks and do PCTs, because I'm brave and fearless.

I have 5,000 ng/dL of total testosterone and 117 pg/mL of free testosterone.

DHT is only 870.00ng/l, and the reference range is 219.00 - 1140.00.

I thought it will be above the reference range, but I was wrong and I don't know what is happening.

I'm planning to start using HGH to keep my GH levels at the upper end of the reference range or slightly above it, but not significantly above it.

By the time I start using HGH, my DHT should be above the reference range. Any ideas how to do this without increasing the testosterone dose? I don't know what my e2 tolerance limit is and how high testosterone doses I can tolerate without getting side effects, but I'm not taking any chances with this.

I see 5,000 ng/dL is enough to get good growth in muscle mass, and I don't want to increase the dose just to see how far I can go. 300-350 mg doesn't cause any side effects, but side effects can start at 400 mg, for example. I don't want to risk.

What should I do? Should I buy a DHT gel or what? Do DHT derivatives actually increase the DHT level or just enhance androgen receptor sensitivity without actually increasing the DHT level?

Yeah buy some dht gel and rub it on your little d for more local igf response lol @dumbgear

 

[88general88]

Yeah buy some dht gel and rub it on your little d for more local igf response lol @dumbgear

I'm curious what were your test levels

 

[Ateam2023]

I'm curious what were your test levels

i was clowning with smartgear idk what you mean ? i don't use dht gels or any gels i just inject testosterone c

 

[ThinkTrenbolone]

Just shave off your hair in a "U" pattern and pretend it's hard to pee, and bam, high DHT simulation complete.

You forgot monkey hair all over the body

 

[Ghoul]

You forgot monkey hair all over the body

Oh man. Let me tell ya bro, few things worse for that than oral Minoxidil. I was never super hairy, never had to shave my back. Until one day I found out my recently acquired hairy back was on my chick's "ick list", lol.

I mean, it's not difficult to deal with, but I didn't realize a rug was growing back there connecting the base of my neck to my ass...should've known from all the hair I was finding around the house. It looked like I kept a german shepherd around, and I couldn't figure out why lol.

 

[ThinkTrenbolone]

Oh man. Let me tell ya bro, few things worse for that than oral Minoxidil. I was never super hairy, never had to shave my back. Until one day I found out my recently acquired hairy back was on my chick's "ick list", lol.

I mean, it's not difficult to deal with, but I didn't realize a rug was growing back there connecting the base of my neck to my ass...

I did liquid oral minoxidil. A trick a learned a long time ago. Under the tongue. The topical kind. Swish it for a few mins and spit. Causes hair growth for me like crazy. Don't swallow. Just sublingual. Yes it works. Saves money too. The 3 drops under the tongue.

 

[Ateam2023]

Oh man. Let me tell ya bro, few things worse for that than oral Minoxidil. I was never super hairy, never had to shave my back. Until one day I found out my recently acquired hairy back was on my chick's "ick list", lol.

I mean, it's not difficult to deal with, but I didn't realize a rug was growing back there connecting the base of my neck to my ass...should've known from all the hair I was finding around the house. It looked like I kept a german shepherd around, and I couldn't figure out why lol.

what products are you using for your "hair control" now?

 

[Ghoul]

I did liquid oral minoxidil. A trick a learned a long time ago. Under the tongue. The topical kind. Swish it for a few mins and spit. Causes hair growth for me like crazy. Don't swallow. Just sublingual. Yes it works. Saves money too. The 3 drops under the tongue.

I don't get the "saves money" thing from the topical drinkers. This is 6 months worth of FDA approved oral Minox. $3 a month. (granted this is a US centric answer...- a lot harder for our Euro brothers)

 

[ThinkTrenbolone]

I don't get the "saves money" thing from the topical drinkers. This is 6 months worth of FDA approved oral Minox. $3 a month. (granted this is a US centric answer...- a lot harder for our Euro brothers)

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Makes sense