(US) Multiple Seizure Letter followup?

[Ghoul]

While here on Meso and many other places there are countless reports of US customs seizures, including many who've received multiple letters, is anyone aware of follow up by law enforcement after multiple seizures?

I can't find any examples

I'm curious if there's some threshold that triggers something more than a letter, because some have reported getting 6(!) in a month which makes it seem as if certain types of products, like small amounts of gear, Sched 4/5 pharma, and unscheduled drugs are always dealt with by a love letter, which is kind of surprising if that's the case tbh.

 

[pigeonhed]

They cannot contact you again. It needs another agency.

While CBP itself doesn't typically follow up with criminal charges, they may refer cases to other law enforcement agencies, such as the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), or the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). These agencies might investigate further if they suspect illegal activities, such as smuggling, trafficking, or other criminal conduct.

 

[HeatherSwanson]

In my mind it would be dependent on quantity? Personal use quantities wouldn't really warrant the time for already over worked and under funded alphabet agencies. But a pound or two of raws or hundreds of kits for real sale likely would raise suspicions I'd imagine.

Follow up if you find out anything else!

 

[SalimTheDream]

Wondering the same. If you get a letter, is address no good for future packs?

 

[Ghoul]

Wondering the same. If you get a letter, is address no good for future packs?

So far there is no evidence seizures "burn" an address. Plenty of people report getting a love letter and re-shipped packages getting through without issue.

 

[AlexDavis43]

Wondering the same. If you get a letter, is address no good for future packs?

So far there is no evidence seizures "burn" an address. Plenty of people report getting a love letter and re-shipped packages getting through without issue.

I've received a few love letters over the years. Still successfully receiving packs to the same name/address after.

If my address is burned, it's a very slow burn.

 

[Ghoul]

I've received a few love letters over the years. Still successfully receiving packs to the same name/address after.

If my address is burned, it's a very slow burn.

Let's hope it stays that way brother.

 

[DECLAN]

There were a couple of guys in OLM and one here I think years ago who had to fight a charge, I think one got probation. However, the problem is nobody came back to tell their stories.

 

[bighunanballs]

An address is only "burned" in the sense that there is a record against the address and name used for future prosecution or triggering events. We know this happens based on a handful of busts that happened many years ago (raw deal timeframe) I have not heard of anything in the recent years In any reports or news describing or linking to previous seizures being looked at In recent litigation for busts. Based on previous experience it's usually not customs seizures that trigger fedbois or sniffing up your ass. It's something stupid like a broken vial leaking and being shipped domestically. Large label purchases or heavy evidence of reselling, even then that's hard to get on the radar. Still if I get a few seizures to a single addy I burn it. My orders are typically large (handful of kilos, hundreds of vials or thousands of tabs lol) so I prefer not to chance it.

I specifically remember reading up on a lot of the raw deal busts since I was hot and heavy into homebrew. Feds were collecting data and information over the course of multiple years this included intricate records of seizures at addresses they had used etc... I was very scared I was going to get a knock during this time lol

 

[JustMe18]

Let's hope it stays that way brother.

So, let’s say hypothetically someone ordered a certain amount of ed pills. Like more than 500 and it was seized by customs. It is a large quantity, but is just for the ole root to get hard. You think that quantity is enough to start checking someone out?

 

[iris]

hypothetically someone ordered ed pills. Like more than 500

Hypothetically.
Someone

 

[JustMe18]

Hypothetically.
Someone

Cometely hypothetical non existent problem that I’ve ever known of, but definitely is a probable situation that could happen and could need some peace of mind on if it ever did. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Ghoul]

So, let’s say hypothetically someone ordered a certain amount of ed pills. Like more than 500 and it was seized by customs. It is a large quantity, but is just for the ole root to get hard. You think that quantity is enough to start checking someone out?

I have never heard of anyone getting in trouble for non-controlled substances in the mail, regardless of quantity.

Even the obvious "importers" with tens of thousands of pills don't seem to get busted until they start messing with benzodiazepines or opioids.

Operation "Broader sword" last year seized 3000 packages of India pharma, and the only prosecution was a guy running a retail operation AND had opioids in his shipment.

They seem to be satisfied with punishment through confiscation and sending a brochure warning you of the poor quality of foreign pharmaceuticals.

FWIW, 500 (50 strips, 5 boxes) of anything isn't that much, and won't raise eyebrows. I've had 2000 (mixed non controlled meds) in one box seized (nothing controlled) and there was no issue.

That's the way to do it anyway, quantity. It's only $35 for 500 cialis from a good india pharma seller.

Obviously I can't guarantee anything, but wouldn't lose a moment's sleep over it.

Hell, sometimes customs inspects it, tapes it back up, and sends it to you!

 

[JustMe18]

I have never heard of anyone getting in trouble for non-controlled substances in the mail, regardless of quantity.

Even the obvious "importers" with tens of thousands of pills don't seem to get busted until they start messing with benzodiazepines or opioids.

Operation "Broader sword" last year seized 3000 packages of India pharma, and the only prosecution was a guy running a retail operation AND had opioids in his shipment.

They seem to be satisfied with punishment through confiscation and sending a brochure warning you of the poor quality of foreign pharmaceuticals.

FWIW, 500 (50 strips, 5 boxes) of anything isn't that much, and won't raise eyebrows. I've had 2000 (mixed non controlled meds) in one box seized (nothing controlled) and there was no issue.

That's the way to do it anyway, quantity. It's only $35 for 500 cialis from a good india pharma seller.

Obviously I can't guarantee anything, but wouldn't lose a moment's sleep over it.

Hell, sometimes customs inspects it, tapes it back up, and sends it to you!

Well if this ever happens to someone, ill will let them know it’s unlikely anything will happen, even if they order 1,000 peen pills. I’m sure theyll
Be very appreciative of your response if I ever come across the hypothetical person/problem! You the man Ghoul!

 

[Ghoul]

Well if this ever happens to someone, ill will let them know it’s unlikely anything will happen, even if they order 1,000 peen pills. I’m sure theyll
Be very appreciative of your response if I ever come across the hypothetical person/problem! You the man Ghoul!

Tell them to hurry up though. It's being discussed elsewhere, but after years of making noise about all the fentanyl and other bad stuff coming through the mail, it looks like they're determined to tighten things up, and india pharma will probably be collateral damage. I can't say if it'll be in month or 6 months, but it's coming and no one's going to announce "last call".

It'll be more like the music stopping while playing musical chairs. Remember, most meds are good for a decade or more past expiration dates (though look up the exceptions to be safe).

 

[Lexington]

 

[JustMe18]

Tell them to hurry up though. It's being discussed elsewhere, but after years of making noise about all the fentanyl and other stuff coming through the mail, it looks like they're determined to tighten things up, and india pharma will probably be collateral damage. I can't say if it'll be in month or 6 months, but it's coming and no one's going to announce "last call".

It'll be more like the music stopping while playing musical chairs. Remember, most meds are good for a decade or more past expiration dates (though look up the exceptions to be safe).

I was checking out the thread about the crackdown. The saw something about it posted on a news reel somewhere else. US Gov is cracking down on aas as well, so the article read. Domestic prices fixing to skyrocket once it takes effect…

 

[Ghoul]

I was checking out the thread about the crackdown. The saw something about it posted on a news reel somewhere else. US Gov is cracking down on aas as well, so the article read. Domestic prices fixing to skyrocket once it takes effect…

I don't think there's any crusade against AAS or India pharma, but when they have the tech to easily see into every package, quickly, and automatically removing anything with contraband off the belt, no longer relying on overstretched manpower, it's hard to see how things will continue to "slip through". whether it's dick pills or knockoff watches.

The only reason so much gets through now is because they can only pull a tiny percentage of shipments to run through the X-ray, and 95%+ never even gets into customs hands.

 

[JustMe18]

I don't think there's any crusade against AAS or India pharma, but when they have the tech to easily see into every package, quickly, and automatically removing anything with contraband off the belt, no longer relying on overstretched manpower, it's hard to see how things will continue to "slip through". whether it's dick pills or knockoff watches.

The only reason so much gets through now is because they can only pull a tiny percentage of shipments to run through the X-ray, and 95%+ never even gets into customs hands.

Makes sense. Wonder how much of those seized packages will be going to use for the agents.. Must be nice to be able to have someone order and deliver to your workplace for free lol

 

[iris]

Makes sense. Wonder how much of those seized packages will be going to use for the agents.. Must be nice to be able to have someone order and deliver to your workplace for free lol

Just get the hypotheticsl person to get their 5000 penis pills shipped to their parents ' house and all will be fine.
Trust me.