(US) Vendor gear found with dissolved brewing equipment (Plastic)

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2 Sealed vials of TRE400 were sent to Jano for testing.
Both were confirmed today to contain dissolved plastic.

Janoshik Analytical (1st batch)
Janoshik Analytical (2nd/current batch)

Vials are from 2 different batches.
The first batch and 2nd (current) batch.
As confirmed by Vendor, only 2 batches exist.

How toxic is this?
I have no idea, however I have zero plans to inject from any vendor that has any products containing dissolved plastic.

Which products are affected?

As of now we only have confirmation of the first and current batches of TRE400.

Is this only for Tren related oils?
No this may occur for all AAS oils.

Can this be filtered out?
No.

What testing is performed?

HPLC + GCMS.
This is not a new test. It has been performed on vendors such as QSC and we know that they have been gone for ages.

What other vendors have this?
In the 10+ test reports we have of different vendors, this is the first time we are seeing this.
We even have testing done on TNE (which uses alot more solvents) with no dissolved plastic.

What brewing equipment?
Bottle top filters which are made out of a single piece plastic (polystyrene).
Polystyrene is not compatible with the solvents used for brewing and will dissolve.
How much / quickly the plastic dissolves depends on the amount of oil being filtered and the % of solvents used.
This means that is it more likely to occur in oils sold in high volume or high concentration oils.

Is vendor testing sufficient?
Buy from vendors you trust.
There is nothing stopping them from swapping batches or using same batch numbers for multiple batches.
Do you believe a vendor will toss out tens of thousands in finished oils and brewing equipment?
 
I am looking for veterans who have purchased gear from the below vendors from Jan-Sep this year to send in their sealed vials for testing.

I believe these vendors reimburse, however there exist a risk the vendors do not reimburse in full or changes their reimbursement policy.
You may want to check in with them in advance.

Test to order is HPLC+GCMS

Primal
Mast P200
TRA 200
SUS 500
Test E500

MuscleCandy
TRE 400

Axle
TRE 400
 
I am looking for veterans who have purchased gear from the below vendors from Jan-Sep this year to send in their sealed vials for testing.

I believe these vendors reimburse, however there exist a risk the vendors do not reimburse in full or changes their reimbursement policy.
You may want to check in with them in advance.

Test to order is HPLC+GCMS

Primal
Mast P200
TRA 200
SUS 500
Test E500

MuscleCandy
TRE 400

Axle
TRE 400
I might have some tren 200 A I can send in I just have to double check
 
Just out of curiosity if it’s not in the vendors other oils could it be the raws were contaminated somehow beforehand with this?
 
Just out of curiosity if it’s not in the vendors other oils could it be the raws were contaminated somehow beforehand with this?

Unlikely.
 
Unlikely.
Interesting do we have coas on the raws or just his word? Either ways curious how you mess up just one type of gear and not the others using similar methods and equipment or is brewing tren a completely different process? I’m a noob to brewing so all this is new to me but I have enough of the tren 400 to be curious what I’m injecting and if it’s dangerous.
 
You might have to check his thread, i don't follow closely lol



The others are not tested.
I tested what i bought, TRE400.
Someone is testing the TRA100, you can test the TRA200 if you're concerned about TRA.
All I have is tre400 and deca so might be worth checking the deca as well I gotta check but I think it’s the higher concentration too so might have the same issue
 

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