Usain Bolt clean?

[Kinikuman]

This writer has to be one of the most naive reporters in the history of sport. If he really thinks that Bolt does not nor has not used any PEDs, he's simply blind, deaf and ignorant. Let's not pretend that somewhere down the line one of Bolt's samples isn't going to come up dirty. It will. It's just a matter of when - and what they find.

Why does the world of athletics continue to pretend? ALL of the elite track athletes (and just about any other elite athlete that relies on speed, physical strength or endurance) are using PEDs or they wouldn't be elite (track) athletes. Period. Let's be real here.

Why Usain Bolt and Jesse Owens represent so much more than just fast runners

 

[MindlessWork]

FWIW Usain Bolt could well been using substances that aren't yet tested for, but newer and better tests are being developed every day.

So yes his time may be coming, who knows?

 

[grey]

Why does the world of athletics continue to pretend?

We like to pretend that we don't encourage people to damage themselves for the amusement of the masses.

 

[TANGO.ECHO.KILO]

This writer has to be one of the most naive reporters in the history of sport. If he really thinks that Bolt does not nor has not used any PEDs, he's simply blind, deaf and ignorant. Let's not pretend that somewhere down the line one of Bolt's samples isn't going to come up dirty. It will. It's just a matter of when - and what they find.

Why does the world of athletics continue to pretend? ALL of the elite track athletes (and just about any other elite athlete that relies on speed, physical strength or endurance) are using PEDs or they wouldn't be elite (track) athletes. Period. Let's be real here.

Why Usain Bolt and Jesse Owens represent so much more than just fast runners

I agree it's pretty unrealistic to think that humans just continue to become faster sprinters...not that much has changed in regards to diet and training. Yet we continue to see top level athletes shatter records, then continue to shave time off their personal bests year after year.

Very cool to witness, yet I believe people are naive to believe drugs are not prevalent especially in the sprinter community.

 

[ergomaniac]

This writer has to be one of the most naive reporters in the history of sport. If he really thinks that Bolt does not nor has not used any PEDs, he's simply blind, deaf and ignorant. Let's not pretend that somewhere down the line one of Bolt's samples isn't going to come up dirty. It will. It's just a matter of when - and what they find.

Why does the world of athletics continue to pretend? ALL of the elite track athletes (and just about any other elite athlete that relies on speed, physical strength or endurance) are using PEDs or they wouldn't be elite (track) athletes. Period. Let's be real here.

Why Usain Bolt and Jesse Owens represent so much more than just fast runners

I posted this a while back. you may find it interesting. thinksteroids.com/community/threads/are-athletes-really-getting-faster-better-stronger-.134369499
aside from performance enhancing drugs.
a changing technology, a changing gene pool, and a changing mindset. coupled with innovation, democratization, and imagination in sport.

watch the video. its not that long. if usain is doping, he still isn't beating jesse owens.

 

[jaymaximus]

He may or may not be using PED's. But this goes back to reasoning I can't stand. Which is, if such in such is so much better than me (or some other guy) the only way that can happen is cheating. Can't possibly be training harder (or any of the reasons @ergomaniac listed).

Bolt could very well be juiced like crazy, but is the only proof you need because that's the only way he could be so good?

 

[ergomaniac]

He may or may not be using PED's. But this goes back to reasoning I can't stand. Which is, if such in such is so much better than me (or some other guy) the only way that can happen is cheating. Can't possibly be training harder (or any of the reasons @ergomaniac listed).

Bolt could very well be juiced like crazy, but is the only proof you need because that's the only way he could be so good?

usain may be able to run fast, but can he lift as much as @jaymaximus ? i don't think so.

 

[Relliot]

He's as clean as Lance Armstrong was winning all those Tour de France races. If you think for a second Usain Bolt is routinely beating every doper in history, NATURAL? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Edit: Here is a better example.

Imagine I told you Phil Heath won Mr. Olympia Natural. That's about the same chance Bolt is running 100% natural.

 

[jaymaximus]

He's as clean as Lance Armstrong was winning all those Tour de France races. If you think for a second Usain Bolt is routinely beating every doper in history, NATURAL? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Edit: Here is a better example.

Imagine I told you Phil Heath won Mr. Olympia Natural. That's about the same chance Bolt is running 100% natural.

So your only "proof" is that he's really good?
And that other people in completely other sports have done it, so he must have too...

 

[Relliot]

So your only "proof" is that he's really good?
And that other people in completely other sports have done it, so he must have too...

Read this translated Interview: I posted this before, but in light of Yoel Romero's positive test, here's an extremely insightful interview on PEDs with a known PED dealer, who has ties with Olympic Gold Medalists and all-time great boxer Juan Manuel Marquez

Some highlights:

"SPIEGEL: Mr. Heredia, will you watch the 100 meter final in Beijing?

Heredia: Of course. But the winner will not be clean. Not even any of the contestants will be clean.

SPIEGEL: Of eight runners ...

Heredia: ... eight will be doped.

SPIEGEL: There is no way to prove that.

Heredia: There is no doubt about it. The difference between 10.0 and 9.7 seconds is the drugs."

You can ask for proof or hand written documents where they confess to doping, but I am not naive enough to believe someone trains their entire LIFE to win a gold medal and doesn't take performance enhancement drugs.

Do I think Bolt is the fastest man alive? He certainly is when doping, but I doubt anyone competing for gold medals and lands a spot on a podium is natural to begin with.

 

[Relliot]

Lance is the perfect example of what a five star doping team can do for you. He went from being average to winning 7 Tour de France titles. THAT WAS THE DRUGS 100%.

Here was a response by Lance Armstrong when asked can somebody win a Tour de France Natural.

"When you raced, was it possible to perform without doping?"

"That depends on which races you wanted to win. The Tour de France? No. Impossible to win without doping."

Bolt went from a personal best of 10.03 to hitting 9.76 and a world record of 9.69 in a span of a year. He used to average low 10's for years and all the sudden he drops 3/10ths of a second...... ROFL

 

[Mr.B66]

Read this translated Interview: I posted this before, but in light of Yoel Romero's positive test, here's an extremely insightful interview on PEDs with a known PED dealer, who has ties with Olympic Gold Medalists and all-time great boxer Juan Manuel Marquez

Some highlights:

"SPIEGEL: Mr. Heredia, will you watch the 100 meter final in Beijing?

Heredia: Of course. But the winner will not be clean. Not even any of the contestants will be clean.

SPIEGEL: Of eight runners ...

Heredia: ... eight will be doped.

SPIEGEL: There is no way to prove that.

Heredia: There is no doubt about it. The difference between 10.0 and 9.7 seconds is the drugs."

You can ask for proof or hand written documents where they confess to doping, but I am not naive enough to believe someone trains their entire LIFE to win a gold medal and doesn't take performance enhancement drugs.

Do I think Bolt is the fastest man alive? He certainly is when doping, but I doubt anyone competing for gold medals and lands a spot on a podium is natural to begin with.

That was a real eye opening read,honestly i always thought most all professional athletes were clean because of all the testing.makes sense that big money makes anything possible,including beating the test.

 

[Roger rabbit]

Usain bolt was detected for steroids though. This writer is out of date


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[ergomaniac]

That was a real eye opening read,honestly i always thought most all professional athletes were clean because of all the testing.makes sense that big money makes anything possible,including beating the test.

www.cyclingnews.com/news/howman-reform-needed-in-anti-doping-fight

one of sheriff daves best quotes...
"do you think we have the science to track those who dope in a sophisticated manner? personally I don't think we do. we are catching the dopey dopers, but not the sophisticated ones." lmfao.

 

[tenpoundsleft]

We like to pretend that we don't encourage people to damage themselves for the amusement of the masses.

Ha ha ha - yes, the hypocrisy.

Probably over 90% of all sports, at least professional ones, make sure the participants will sustain from life-threatening to disabilitating injuries over time. 90% might be exaggerating, but even pro golfers are turning into cripples early in life, look at all the surgeries Tiger has had, and he can pay for the best.

I wonder how early arthritic pain and various joint and tendon issues kick in with former pro athletes versus the general population.

Look at Ali, media saying that it's so sad he suffered from Parkinson's - which was quite likely self-inflicted, he was a boxer FFS. But pugilism isn't condemned by media. Oh well.

Back to PED, the pro athletes need them the most to recover from injuries, but then they're denied even cough medicine. Because it's doping!!!! Insane.