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Using TRT Through End Of Life?

jonkobeck said:
I am sure I am not the only one here who who has been on TRT for several years and then tried to stop and crashed. I stopped accidentally when I switched to a compounding gel a few years ago and not long after got very sick. I became extremely depressed, had absolutely zero energy, I tore muscles and was in chronic pain. It wasnt until I went in for some bloodwork to find out my T levels had crashed to almost nothing. I went right back on the injections and quickly recovered.
I think of that time often, and it gives me great concern. What would happen if for some reason I had to stop TRT? It CAN happen to any of us. A heart attack, cancer, some disease that prohibits testosterone replacement. If you are hospitalized for whatever reason the hospital will not give you T simply because its prescribed to you. They WILL give you your Statins and blood pressure meds, but not T. Mainstream medicine hasn't accepted T replacement as a true medicinal. Or what about when we grow old? Know any 90 year olds on T?

My point is, chances are there will come a time in our lives when we will have to stop TRT. I dread that day.
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]dude, i posted this same question a few weeks back. wasn't a popular topic and i didn't get solid answers. this was my fear and question as well.mi have a 90 day supply of trt sitting on my table now for a month and i still won't touch it out of these types of fears.

even running gear, as curious as i am and as much as i want to jump on light cycles, my fear is the long term... i asked that same fucking question but along the lines of "are we going to be shooting aas or trt at 70? 78? 69?, etc...... that thought is causing me to hesitate..

us guys between 20-55 or maybe....maybe 60 have not much to worry about being in our prime, but theres a day when we will all be 60+ and probably with health issues, the idea of being depressed beyond repair due to having to come off aas or trt freaks me out and i'm still thinking hard on this decision
 
jonkobeck said:
Well, Im not talking about being on your death-bed. Im thinking about when we get up in our 60s or even 50s for some, and the common ailments that affect so many start to happen. Heart disease is a common issue, and a big problem as far as TRT is concerned. LOTS of men in the 60s have heart issues of some kind. Are you a smoker? COPD is an issue that may cause a problem as it effects RBC and HCT levels and so does T. Maybe you develop diabetes and end up loosing a few toes or a foot. Oh and I almost forgot, Prostate cancer. Good luck being prescribed testosterone with Prostate cancer. In fact they will give you anti-cancer drugs to purposely lower T and raise E. Its a very long list, and the truth is that very few men advance into the 6th or 7th decade without some medical issues. Yes we are living now longer then ever, but in reality we are just living with diseases longer, and the longer we live the more health issues we will be living with.
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your posting everything i think of.. what if something catastrophic happened where you had to come off? then what? someone being on aas or trt for 10-20-30+ years than having to stop seems suicidal.
these are very real question and things to think on before making the decision.
i'm not feeling the greatest recently after learning my hormones are shot but these thoughts are keeping me from doing the trt for now. i'm just fighting through the mood and energy issues
 
TRT is a commitment and once you go there THERE IS NO GOING BACK TO FEELING NORMAL WITHOUT IT.

I don't care whose protocol for restart you read, how much HCG you use, you don't just restart your own levels after a few years on test. I see these guys always asking about how to get off it and I just smh, because the health and mental issues with not having adequate test levels are probably a hell of a lot worse than being on it for life.

I don't dread shit really, I'd assume be dead without testosterone in me.
 
I feel I may go on it eventually or at least try therapy for 3-6 months just to see if it makes me feel any better. From there I can weigh the pros and cons and decide to continue or stop.

The OP makes really good points. Points that I think of often. Blast and cruise, cruising, trt, multiple cycles a year seem all good until there’s an unforeseen problem. Whether financially, source related, legal trouble, health issue, etc.

I wonder if any of the seasoned vets have any similar stories they’ve experienced??

Anyone ever HAVE to stop aas for one reason or another? (Without pct, hcg, etc) How did your body handle the change? What did you experience? I’m talking guys that been on aas for years or on/off for years.

This would be invaluable information for greenhorns like myself and others trying to find info.
 
Sparkyp said:
I feel I may go on it eventually or at least try therapy for 3-6 months just to see if it makes me feel any better. From there I can weigh the pros and cons and decide to continue or stop.
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It does not really work like that. You dont just "go on it for 3-6 months" to try it out. That 3-6 months could screw up your hormonal balance and you may never recover it. Or even if you do recover it it wont feel the same after being on testosterone because the receptors are used to a higher level of T. Thats basically what happened to me. I went on for 4 months decided I didnt like it but when I came off and stayed off for almost a year but it wasnt the same after being on testosterone gel which gives you a lot of T and DHT. So i have been on the gels for 6+ years and cant seem to get off them. Have tried multiple restarts but the last one the highest I got after three months off was 6.6 nmol/L in the morning so i was like ok fuck these restarts.

TRT isnt all sunshine and rainbows so tread carefully before you trial it and get stuck on it.
 
And what im saying is, when you havent tried TRT your body is fine with a certain level of T and you function mostly fine. My libido was consistent I was just fatigued a lot. But once you go on T it can solve some problems but then it causes others. Some people luck out and it solves everything. (bastards!!!) but others like me it solves some stuff but creates other problems. Shutting down ones nuts has consequences i think. Been trying to use a bit of hcg here and there but i hate the stuff. Anyways, thats my rant.

Also to the original poster, yeah i think of that too. What if my excellent endo retires and another doctor wont prescribe meds for me. Or what if this stuff gets banned. Thats why I am trying to add some hcg into my protocol even once a week so if that DOES happen my nuts can hit the ground running.
 
^^^ Tyler, thank you for that feedback. That’s what I’m looking for. I’ve been hesitating for months for many reasons. I mean, what are our fellow Meso members dealing with when constantly running gear? BnC, cycle on/off??? Is there not consequences?
How can 150mg of USA made test be so detrimental when people are using behemoth amounts of gear for decades?
I’m asking seriously. I ASSUMED trt was a safe play in getting the best of both worlds. (Feeling better, mood, energy, drive, fat loss, some muscle gain, etc) without going extreme

I can’t believe the stories I’m hearing about trt. A few buddies of mine are saying the same thing to proceed with caution. What are all the negatives associated with what seems such small test dosages??
 
Tyler81 said:
It does not really work like that. You dont just "go on it for 3-6 months" to try it out. That 3-6 months could screw up your hormonal balance and you may never recover it. Or even if you do recover it it wont feel the same after being on testosterone because the receptors are used to a higher level of T. Thats basically what happened to me. I went on for 4 months decided I didnt like it but when I came off and stayed off for almost a year but it wasnt the same after being on testosterone gel which gives you a lot of T and DHT. So i have been on the gels for 6+ years and cant seem to get off them. Have tried multiple restarts but the last one the highest I got after three months off was 6.6 nmol/L in the morning so i was like ok fuck these restarts.

TRT isnt all sunshine and rainbows so tread carefully before you trial it and get stuck on it.
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Tyler, I meant to ask... what were some of the negatives you were experiencing? What were the cons and why were you attempting to come off?
 
I’m 75 and been on TRT for 5 years and love it. I inject about 0.5 ml (100 mg) e4d which keeps above 1000. I do worry about getting too old to do the injections, but I hope that is a long way off.

Benefits: more muscle, more strength, more stamina, better physique, less fat, better libido (sometimes too much).

Negatives: having to do the injections, occasional temper tantrums (about once a year).
 
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