Valiant labs

[MisterSuperGod]

For one I'm not defending him I've already said many things that I don't agree with that he's been doing. Where is the proof that he is a scammer. I see assumptions. Let's stay on point I said he has many flaws but where was anyone say that he's a scammer or anyone has proof of. Put yourself in a situation where someone labeled you falsely and how that affects your life what would you do about that. Do you think that's right do you think that's fair you think that's okay to do to a person. This forum is for people to make their own decisions about a source and to do their own reading so I'm making it aware that someone's making accusations that they can't back up about a person. So future readers are aware. I believe in doing the right thing bc I'm a good person with a good heart and have morals. I guess feels reports are good with y'all who commented . Your asking the man to provide testing which is facts about his product. But it's ok to label this man based on your feelz.

Would you even care had you not ordered raws from him recently?

 

[wsmwannabe]

Agree give him hate on that it's fucked up. That doesn't mean he's a scammer. My experience with him was good. Do I give the ok on him no. People make there own decision based on there reading. Everyone has pros and cons.

I totally get your point, but anytime you start arguing in defense of a lab, it's never a good look. If @valiant wants to set the record straight, he should do that himself.

I am glad you didn't get scammed and I am glad you got good products, but Valiant can either provide answers to the questions to more quickly prove his credibility, or he can gain it SLOWLY through customer reviews with testing.

 

[Beastmode2782]

No...this absolutely defending..LOL...Why do you care so much about this source? The man said around July 10th he would provide his Test results.. It's almost a month later and still no results...Missimg packs on SST..Maybe people were made whole, maybe not...Those things are called RED FLAGS... If you want to purchase from him, that's your choice

I know this may be hard for you to comprehend. But I defended him in one way saying there's no proof of him being a scammer. Not a single word about anything else. Bc that is labeling someone. On sat it said it's been a certain amount of time and they haven't received pack yet. His whole thread says this throughout but eventually everyone got there pack and was happy. Have they stated back that they were scammed or posted it in the scam section. No. So your feelz tells you he scammed those people. He has always been a late TA. Everyone has always posted where is my package. Everyone has always received. If you want to find out facts go contact those last few people and post on there to find out. Assumptions are like assholes everyone has one. Getting trapped in one perspective in life is dangerous you should open your mind to thousands of perspectives. Not just your own negative one. Get out of hate groups. Live life to its fullest.

 

[Beastmode2782]

Would you even care had you not ordered raws from him recently?

The only reason I know about this thread is bc I decided to order from him so I have been keeping up. I've ordered through 20 other sources on meso. I agree with the hate. I don't understand how someone can't take a step back and see this is a information gateway. It's very important for things to be a fact when someone is labeled something. How that affects everything. Including values and morales. You want to crucify him for his messups go for it. Just don't label him as a scammer to others that read this with no proof.

And if I didn't research valiant or partake in this thread no I would not of cared. Do you know why? Bc if I saw top dogs label this man a scammer on Meso. Before now I would believed what was said bc it's meso . They don't state facts without proof bc they know many others will be making decisions based on there words.

 

[Beastmode2782]

But I'm done here made my mark for future readers. Not trying to make enemies. I respect many of you alot and have been following some of you for years. Learning alot. My point was nothing other than getting a fact so people are aware. Will not be replying anymore on this subject. Always open to PMs.

 

[cochino]

I'm the one who said he was a scammer and I stand by that. It is my opinion he is and I have a right to voice that opinion. @Beastmode2782 I'm sorry if you don't like it and disagree, that is your opinion.

He has constantly stalled and made promises he didn't fulfill in order to make a quick dollar. We've seen that song and dance before. He has customers on SST that haven't received their orders. He closes up shop there and instead of taking care of his customers there, he comes over here and bumps this thread trying to make a quick dollar. Imo, that is a scammer and I will continue to warn members here not to buy from him.

 

[shackleford]

Looks likesomeone's going hard for that open @ValiantRep position.

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its a JOKE @Beastmode2782.

source acts shady, and doesnt answer questions. He brings the speculation upon himself.

 

[Beastmode2782]

I'm the one who said he was a scammer and I stand by that. It is my opinion he is and I have a right to voice that opinion. @Beastmode2782 I'm sorry if you don't like it and disagree, that is your opinion.

He has constantly stalled and made promises he didn't fulfill in order to make a quick dollar. We've seen that song and dance before. He has customers on SST that haven't received their orders. He closes up shop there and instead of taking care of his customers there, he comes over here and bumps this thread trying to make a quick dollar. Imo, that is a scammer and I will continue to warn members here not to buy from him.

Have followed you for years and have mad respect. Respect is earned and you have done that greatly here. I agree with the hate like I said. It was one single thing I was pointing out and for people to be aware of. Thank you for coming at me not attacking but with Meso best interest in mind. I do respect your opinion.

 

[Beastmode2782]

Looks likesomeone's going hard for that open @ValiantRep position.

Edit
its a JOKE @Beastmode2782.

source acts shady, and doesnt answer questions. He brings the speculation upon himself.

Agree 100

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

I know this may be hard for you to comprehend. But I defended him in one way saying there's no proof of him being a scammer. Not a single word about anything else. Bc that is labeling someone. On sat it said it's been a certain amount of time and they haven't received pack yet. His whole thread says this throughout but eventually everyone got there pack and was happy. Have they stated back that they were scammed or posted it in the scam section. No. So your feelz tells you he scammed those people. He has always been a late TA. Everyone has always posted where is my package. Everyone has always received. If you want to find out facts go contact those last few people and post on there to find out. Assumptions are like assholes everyone has one. Getting trapped in one perspective in life is dangerous you should open your mind to thousands of perspectives. Not just your own negative one. Get out of hate groups. Live life to its fullest.

Lol, where is the proof he is NOT a scammer?

I personally don’t care cause the guy has already demonstrated that he won’t be successful here at MESO. He could be the next best UGL and I wouldn’t order because he’s definitely not transparent.

 

[cochino]

Have followed you for years and have mad respect. Respect is earned and you have done that greatly here. I agree with the hate like I said. It was one single thing I was pointing out and for people to be aware of. Thank you for coming at me not attacking but with Meso best interest in mind. I do respect your opinion.

Thank you. I appreciate that. I respect the members here in general and what MESO stands for. Sources are different.

 

[MindlessWork]

Agree 100

If you want to be Valiant's rep just message him.

 

[valiant]

I’m doing fine. No complaints here. Ty.

Lol, where is the proof he is NOT a scammer?

I personally don’t care cause the guy has already demonstrated that he won’t be successful here at MESO. He could be the next best UGL and I wouldn’t order because he’s definitely not transparent.

 

[cochino]

I’m doing fine. No complaints here. Ty.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

I’m doing fine. No complaints here. Ty.

Well that’s good Vals. How’s the family? Mom still doing well? That’s great. Yea. She’s a great lady. You really make her proud. And how’s Pops doing? He’s good too? Good. That’s great man. Good to hear.

Anyway, let me finish up the lawn. With all the rain we’re having, it sure grows fast. If I miss a day it’s jungle out here! Ha. Amirite?

Later man.