Millard, I am wondering about this. What are your thoughts on why independent testing and reference has gone away, and no longer available when it appears that user will simply persist in purchasing from UGL. Even really illicit drug trafficing has proven this at the demand base historically. So do you forcast any return of some of the things I mention below...
This was my post is a thread around here:
Funny how your english degraded from you initial clean and prestine review of the site. So what I gather is the clear any obvious beginning of "concerned advertisers".. LOL And its interesting that the OP calls out an opposition that is(appears) so subversive that he appears to be attempting to undermine the site by indicating a false time history. And your defence, however appearing to be presented by a different person from the original poster under this sceen name, looks good.
So we can assume the OP and his site are legitimate. Now the question will be CS and will there be a reship policy with letter..? But wouldnt be interesting if "Commercials" have become that elaborate with other intent. I hope the world has not truly gone there.!
(I am only giving my interpretation of this exhange and not endorsing either way...)
But interestingly notable, I have to wonder the intentions of this facet of the site. Why would LE not be looking to find all legits here. Thus they are now here more than ever?? Further, it will require some creative shipping to get by when so many are watching. And this works till the volume is high enough that the US just cuts open every single package from the suspected country of origin. Then again, the US is a melting pot, so perhaps it takes a fairly high threshold to justify flaggin packages at end route local post offices in the US. But really, even if the OP is legit, it always a cycle of "windows" of opportunity at best, and when these windows start to close, it gets ugly on both ends.
EVEN if the site is legit, Even if the products get though customs for an extended to develop a good rep - HOW DO WE ESTABLISH THE VALIDITY OF THE PRODUCTS? It would seem that there remains a strong need for an independent lab to operate for end users who are hell bent on ordering UGL, so that safety and purity can be addressed. It seems like their was one in california in the mid 90's that closed due to polictical headaches. But if the goal is SAFETY, and I HONESTLY THINK that safety is a large priority with regard to US legal regulation (obviously), would it not behove to have an independent lab like that back in business in the US...? And then why not Bill Llewellyn also include a section in his book that reports on the quality of samples from UGL? to work in conjuection as anonymous. I think his reputation could validate him as a source, if he could be sure the data from the lab, and if the lab could be sure the source of the sample. I think I will reiterate the question in thread now...
This was my post is a thread around here:
Funny how your english degraded from you initial clean and prestine review of the site. So what I gather is the clear any obvious beginning of "concerned advertisers".. LOL And its interesting that the OP calls out an opposition that is(appears) so subversive that he appears to be attempting to undermine the site by indicating a false time history. And your defence, however appearing to be presented by a different person from the original poster under this sceen name, looks good.
So we can assume the OP and his site are legitimate. Now the question will be CS and will there be a reship policy with letter..? But wouldnt be interesting if "Commercials" have become that elaborate with other intent. I hope the world has not truly gone there.!
(I am only giving my interpretation of this exhange and not endorsing either way...)
But interestingly notable, I have to wonder the intentions of this facet of the site. Why would LE not be looking to find all legits here. Thus they are now here more than ever?? Further, it will require some creative shipping to get by when so many are watching. And this works till the volume is high enough that the US just cuts open every single package from the suspected country of origin. Then again, the US is a melting pot, so perhaps it takes a fairly high threshold to justify flaggin packages at end route local post offices in the US. But really, even if the OP is legit, it always a cycle of "windows" of opportunity at best, and when these windows start to close, it gets ugly on both ends.
EVEN if the site is legit, Even if the products get though customs for an extended to develop a good rep - HOW DO WE ESTABLISH THE VALIDITY OF THE PRODUCTS? It would seem that there remains a strong need for an independent lab to operate for end users who are hell bent on ordering UGL, so that safety and purity can be addressed. It seems like their was one in california in the mid 90's that closed due to polictical headaches. But if the goal is SAFETY, and I HONESTLY THINK that safety is a large priority with regard to US legal regulation (obviously), would it not behove to have an independent lab like that back in business in the US...? And then why not Bill Llewellyn also include a section in his book that reports on the quality of samples from UGL? to work in conjuection as anonymous. I think his reputation could validate him as a source, if he could be sure the data from the lab, and if the lab could be sure the source of the sample. I think I will reiterate the question in thread now...
