Vanargandar - First Cycle Log - [START 09/25/22]

[Vanargandar]

Hello everyone! I'm fairly new to the forums, joined a few months ago. After having a bad experience with my first UGL and not even making it 2 weeks in, I made a purchase through @GoodLyfe and wanted to keep a cycle log here to keep myself accountable or report anything else. My first pin was yesterday, I'll try and post weekly updates for anyone who gives a shit. I'll also be posting before/after photos if I don't completely fuck everything up at the very end, as well as before/mid/end bloodwork. I have dabbled with higher dosages of Test in the past, as well as Winstrol, and Deca, all prescribed by my TRT doc. I'll post my current stats/training below along with my cycle, so feel free to call me retarded or give constructive criticism. My overall goal with this cycle is simply to add a little mass and hopefully recomp some. Obviously these numbers aren't set in stone and could fluctuate based on side-effects, etc.


Height: 6'0"
Weight: 225lbs (dadbod)
Age: 32
Current Training: Home gym bro split (Mon Legs, Tue Chest/Tri's, Wed Back/Bi's, Thu Shoulders, Fri Arms, Sat + Sun OFF) + 2 mile walk ED


Week 1-2: 210mg GL Test E P/W (30mg ED) + GL 140mg Mast E P/W (20mg ED) + Pharma 40iu Gonadorelin (Mon/Wed/Fri)

Week 3-9: 420mg GL Test E P/W (60mg ED) + GL 420mg Mast E P/W (60mg ED) + Pharma 50iu Gonadorelin (Mon/Wed/Fri)

Week 10-14: 630mg GL Test E P/W (90mg ED) + GL 560mg Mast E P/W (80mg ED) + Pharma 60iu Gonadorelin (Mon/Wed/Fri)

Week 14-16: 420mg GL Test E P/W (60mg ED) + Pharma 50iu Gonadorelin (Mon/Wed/Fri)

Week 17: 210mg GL Test E P/W (30mg ED) + Pharma 40iu Gonadorelin (Mon/Wed/Fri)

Week 18+: 150mg GL Test E P/W (30mg M-F) + Pharma 40iu Gonadorelin (Mon/Wed/Fri)


SUPPLEMENTS: Berberine HCl 500mg (1 capsule) ED AM + PM // Citrus Bergamot 500mg (1 capsule) ED AM + PM // Vitamin D3 5000iu (1 softgel) ED AM // Magnesium 200mg (2 tablets) ED PM // Vitamin B Complex (1 capsule) ED AM // Vitamin E/Tocotrienols 13.4mg/50mg (1 softgel) ED PM


ANCILLERIES: Pharma Anastrozole 1mg (1 tablet) as needed // Pharma Telmisartan 40mg (1 tablet) AM weeks 1-2, 80mg (1 tablet AM + 1 tablet PM) weeks 3-16, 40mg (1 tablet) weeks 18+


POSSIBLE ADD-ONS: GL Anavar 25mg (1mL) ED PWO weeks 9-14 (TBD) // Pharma Mounjaro (Tirzepatide) 2.5mg/5mg/7.5mg (1 injection) once a week (TBD)

 

[BushLeague]

Why the ramp up and down?

What is your macros?

 

[Shivathedestroyer]

That cycle makes no sense. I would also look at your training a bit, training 5 days in a row is not a very ideal to say the least.

That’s also a shit load of gear for your first cycle

 

[Vanargandar]

Why the ramp up and down?

What is your macros?

I believe titrating up, for me at least, is ideal to see how the compounds are working for me (side-effects, etc). Again, these numbers aren't set in stone and I could end up lower than what's posted. I know steroids are a different type of "medication", but with almost any medication that's prescribed there's usually a titration period, whether starting or ending. It just makes sense to me to apply that same logic to a cycle. Also, thanks for mentioning the macros part. I gain weight easily, not the good kind, so I don't eat a crazy amount of food -- CURRENT MACROS: ~2800kcal - ~300g carbs - ~200g protein - ~80g fat

That cycle makes no sense. I would also look at your training a bit, training 5 days in a row is not a very ideal to say the least.

That’s also a shit load of gear for your first cycle

Could you elaborate in what way it doesn't make sense? I'm all ears. In regards to the amount of gear I'm taking, I don't believe it to be unreasonable. I've been on TRT since 2018 and have experimented with other compounds, running up to 800mg of total gear (400 Test/400 Deca prescribed by my TRT doc), as well as running other compounds along with a higher dose of "TRT". I don't think close to 1.2g of gear is super unreasonable for a cycle with the amount of experience I have. In what way would you recommend I adjust my training?

 

[Jurgen]

Seems you already know how you react to test, so titrating that doesn’t seem as logical. Masteron has one of the lowest side effect profiles plus has anti e properties. IMO I would just start at the highest dose you plan on doing and just run that. Otherwise you are probably just wasting a bit of time and growth by going up and down on the doses in barely enough time for them to saturate.
For being on trt and running previous cycles what does having a dad bod mean? I started trt at your BW almost a year ago but I had also been training for years before that.
Either way if your gaining weight at your macros then run that. If you stop, increase them.
As for trying to recomp hopefully you don’t just end up spinning your wheels. IMO either bulk or cut.

 

[Shivathedestroyer]

I believe titrating up, for me at least, is ideal to see how the compounds are working for me (side-effects, etc). Again, these numbers aren't set in stone and I could end up lower than what's posted. I know steroids are a different type of "medication", but with almost any medication that's prescribed there's usually a titration period, whether starting or ending. It just makes sense to me to apply that same logic to a cycle. Also, thanks for mentioning the macros part. I gain weight easily, not the good kind, so I don't eat a crazy amount of food -- CURRENT MACROS: ~2800kcal - ~300g carbs - ~200g protein - ~80g fat


Could you elaborate in what way it doesn't make sense? I'm all ears. In regards to the amount of gear I'm taking, I don't believe it to be unreasonable. I've been on TRT since 2018 and have experimented with other compounds, running up to 800mg of total gear (400 Test/400 Deca prescribed by my TRT doc), as well as running other compounds along with a higher dose of "TRT". I don't think close to 1.2g of gear is super unreasonable for a cycle with the amount of experience I have. In what way would you recommend I adjust my training?

Well first of all I would like to apologize as I didn’t read your entire post and assumed off the fact that you had never used a ugl you had never ran a cycle, I see now you’ve blasted with hormones from a clinic via prescription

I still think 600 mg of test is a high dose, but that’s just me.

As far as why I don’t think it makes sense I don’t see why you have a set plan in place to titrate up your compounds at x week and then taper them back down to finish off the cycle by y week.

Your hormones are going to be all over the damn place, up and down and up and then essentially down even further, at no point in this cycle will your hormones stabilize, as soon as it gets to the point where it could, you change the dose again. Thats sort of the name of the game is keeping our hormones stable for as long as we can, if we plateau consider titrating the dose up and then it will not take long to re stabilize. All that goes out the window when you’re just altering your dose every few weeks, your hormones will be in flux the entire time and that my friend is what causes side effects.


I highly doubt by week 9 on 420 mg of test and mast (considering your diet, training , and recovery are on point which they should be 100% before jumping into a cycle like this) that progress will not be in a good place, that’s quite a lot of gear already and pretty fresh to the start of the cycle so things should be firing very nicely, at that point adding more steroids isn’t going to do anything different except once again throw your hormones out of whack and introduce more toxicity to the cycle by increasing your dosages. Another big thing besides keeping hormones stable is keeping toxic load as low as possible while we continue to make good progress, the drugs are just there so we can keep intensity up in the gym to continue to make progress (which again, at this point progress should be great unless you’re not checking the boxes) so why just increase the drugs for the sake of increasing the drugs?

Now you’re finally at a high dose of 600 test and mast, your hormones have been on one hell of a roller coaster for the past 10 weeks, you're now running an anabolic dosage that you don't need to be running to be making the same progress you would be making on a lower dose, expect with much higher toxic load and side effects and then all of a sudden you start to reduce your dosage back down which will start to make intensity in the gym go down not up, at that point just stop the cycle and kick back to a trt dose.

Just to be honest man none of it makes any sense if you’re actually thinking about this critically and not just wanting to blast bro cycles


Edit: as far as training goes I think training 5 days a week is great, I would never suggest anyone do more than 5 days a week training, ever. We grow when we rest,I would also never recommend anyone train more than 3 days consecutively without a rest day. Im a fan of 3 on 1 off 2 on 1 off. From a recovery point of view 5 days in a row of training is very sub optimal.

 

[Vanargandar]

Seems you already know how you react to test, so titrating that doesn’t seem as logical. Masteron has one of the lowest side effect profiles plus has anti e properties. IMO I would just start at the highest dose you plan on doing and just run that. Otherwise you are probably just wasting a bit of time and growth by going up and down on the doses in barely enough time for them to saturate.
For being on trt and running previous cycles what does having a dad bod mean? I started trt at your BW almost a year ago but I had also been training for years before that.
Either way if your gaining weight at your macros then run that. If you stop, increase them.
As for trying to recomp hopefully you don’t just end up spinning your wheels. IMO either bulk or cut.

You make a fair point. I took a month off completely so I didn't want to just run back into everything head first, but it's something I'll consider after this week, instead of potentially ramping up slowly. I really appreciate your advice and feedback!

EDIT: By dadbod I mean I definitely have some muscle, but I also have some chub. Nothing that keeps me from getting pussy or anything, but I wouldn't mind being a little more dialed in, if that makes sense. I guess another way to put it is I look like a powerlifter or something like that, someone told me once at a Crossfit gym I look like a highland games athlete, lol. I'm also fairly strong in terms of deadlift and squat, poverty bench though, haha.

Well first of all I would like to apologize as I didn’t read your entire post and assumed off the fact that you had never used a ugl you had never ran a cycle, I see now you’ve blasted with hormones from a clinic via prescription

I still think 600 mg of test is a high dose, but that’s just me.

As far as why I don’t think it makes sense I don’t see why you have a set plan in place to titrate up your compounds at x week and then taper them back down to finish off the cycle by y week.

Your hormones are going to be all over the damn place, up and down and up and then essentially down even further, at no point in this cycle will your hormones stabilize, as soon as it gets to the point where it could, you change the dose again. Thats sort of the name of the game is keeping our hormones stable for as long as we can, if we plateau consider titrating the dose up and then it will not take long to re stabilize. All that goes out the window when you’re just altering your dose every few weeks, your hormones will be in flux the entire time and that my friend is what causes side effects.


I highly doubt by week 9 on 420 mg of test and mast (considering your diet, training , and recovery are on point which they should be 100% before jumping into a cycle like this) that progress will not be in a good place, that’s quite a lot of gear already and pretty fresh to the start of the cycle so things should be firing very nicely, at that point adding more steroids isn’t going to do anything different except once again throw your hormones out of whack and introduce more toxicity to the cycle by increasing your dosages. Another big thing besides keeping hormones stable is keeping toxic load as low as possible while we continue to make good progress, the drugs are just there so we can keep intensity up in the gym to continue to make progress (which again, at this point progress should be great unless you’re not checking the boxes) so why just increase the drugs for the sake of increasing the drugs?

Now you’re finally at a high dose of 600 test and mast, your hormones have been on one hell of a roller coaster for the past 10 weeks, you're now running an anabolic dosage that you don't need to be running to be making the same progress you would be making on a lower dose, expect with much higher toxic load and side effects and then all of a sudden you start to reduce your dosage back down which will start to make intensity in the gym go down not up, at that point just stop the cycle and kick back to a trt dose.

Just to be honest man none of it makes any sense if you’re actually thinking about this critically and not just wanting to blast bro cycles


Edit: as far as training goes I think training 5 days a week is great, I would never suggest anyone do more than 5 days a week training, ever. We grow when we rest,I would also never recommend anyone train more than 3 days consecutively without a rest day. Im a fan of 3 on 1 off 2 on 1 off. From a recovery point of view 5 days in a row of training is very sub optimal.

Dude thank you so much for the detailed response! I genuinely appreciate your feedback and advice! You really put into perspective how I should be doing things, even if I don't do it 100% how you suggested. I think a key point to mention is that running higher dosages of Test didn't give me horrible sides, maybe a little acne, but it went away when I added .5mg of Anastrozole 1x a week. I think I used about 560mg p/w for about 2-3 months? All that being said, what would your overall recommendation look like doing this? Would you suggest similar to what @Jurgen said and start at a higher dosage and just go from there? I.E. start at 420 Test/420 Mast and just stay there for the entire cycle, then maybe add on an oral at the end?

 

[Vanargandar]

After 1 month completely off everything, no PCT, etc, here is my bloodwork 1 day before first pin. I would assume my Triglycerides are super high due to not being 100% fasted (ate a big meal/all my carbs for the day before bed the night before). HDL isn't terrible, but I'll be upping my Citrus Bergamot and Berberine to help with this as well.

Now for the absolute disgusting part...my Total/Free Test is abysmal to say the least (somewhat expected, but wasn't expecting it to be that bad), along with my estrogen being almost non-existent, which is extremely confusing as I haven't been taking an AI for a long ass time. @Type-IIx, if you could help me out with this, it would be greatly appreciated.





I will be retesting bloods in about 6-8 weeks.

EDIT: I will be running 420 Test/420 Mast (60mg/60mg ED) along with 60iu Gonadorelin (M/W/F) for my entire cycle, as hinted at/suggested by other users so far.

 

[Shivathedestroyer]

After 1 month completely off everything, no PCT, etc, here is my bloodwork 1 day before first pin. I would assume my Triglycerides are super high due to not being 100% fasted (ate a big meal/all my carbs for the day before bed the night before). HDL isn't terrible, but I'll be upping my Citrus Bergamot and Berberine to help with this as well.

Now for the absolute disgusting part...my Total/Free Test is abysmal to say the least (somewhat expected, but wasn't expecting it to be that bad), along with my estrogen being almost non-existent, which is extremely confusing as I haven't been taking an AI for a long ass time. @Type-IIx, if you could help me out with this, it would be greatly appreciated.

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I will be retesting bloods in about 6-8 weeks.

EDIT: I will be running 420 Test/420 Mast (60mg/60mg ED) along with 60iu Gonadorelin (M/W/F) for my entire cycle, as hinted at/suggested by other users so far.

Yeah man I was gonna hop back on and reply to your earlier message and say that I think that the 420/420 dosage for the whole cycle would be a good idea and no need to go above that.

But man with your cholesterol the way it is I would not be blasting any steroids until I got that in check. Im not gonna sugar coat it, those numbers are horrible and it’s not because you didn’t go in fasted, that can skew it slightly forsure but it doesn’t put your trigs at 500+ to the point the test can’t even register your LDL cholesterol, but it’s clearly very high.


I pull labs all the time probably 6-8x a year, and I go in fasted for some and I go in non fasted and granted my diet is very clean and when I eat before i go in I’m not eating McDonald’s and donuts but my cholesterol and trigs still come back great either way….. I would bet if you pulled fasted numbers your cholesterol would still be super fucked.

Blasting a cycle right now would only make things worse especially if you’re running mast and god forbid you ran some Anavar that shit will reek havoc on your lipids, I don’t know where the idea came from that Anavar is mild on lab work, it can and will Tank your hdl crazy low.

 

[Vanargandar]

Yeah man I was gonna hop back on and reply to your earlier message and say that I think that the 420/420 dosage for the whole cycle would be a good idea and no need to go above that.

But man with your cholesterol the way it is I would not be blasting any steroids until I got that in check. Im not gonna sugar coat it, those numbers are horrible and it’s not because you didn’t go in fasted, that can skew it slightly forsure but it doesn’t put your trigs at 500+ to the point the test can’t even register your LDL cholesterol, but it’s clearly very high.


I pull labs all the time probably 6-8x a year, and I go in fasted for some and I go in non fasted and granted my diet is very clean and when I eat before i go in I’m not eating McDonald’s and donuts but my cholesterol and trigs still come back great either way….. I would bet if you pulled fasted numbers your cholesterol would still be super fucked.

Blasting a cycle right now would only make things worse especially if you’re running mast and god forbid you ran some Anavar that shit will reek havoc on your lipids, I don’t know where the idea came from that Anavar is mild on lab work, it can and will Tank your hdl crazy low.

I have familial hypercholesterolemia for context, probably should've mentioned that. That being said, you're not wrong about my Triglycerides being so high. Here's some more context though: I had routine bloodwork through my PCP ~6 weeks ago while I was still on my normal TRT dose and they were only 200...so I'm not 100% sure why they came back so high this time.

EDIT: I'm going to mega-dose fish oil, cut my carbs a little, and re-do bloodwork in 4 weeks instead of 6-8.

 

[Shivathedestroyer]

I have familial hypercholesterolemia for context, probably should've mentioned that. That being said, you're not wrong about my Triglycerides being so high. Here's some more context though: I had routine bloodwork through my PCP ~6 weeks ago while I was still on my normal TRT dose and they were only 200...so I'm not 100% sure why they came back so high this time.

EDIT: I'm going to mega-dose fish oil, cut my carbs a little, and re-do bloodwork in 4 weeks instead of 6-8.

What is your diet currently like?

 

[Vanargandar]

What is your diet currently like?

Breakfast: Cream of Rice with organic blueberries and organic maple syrup

Dinner: 6-8 pickles, 4 hardboiled cage free/organic eggs, 2oz raw beef liver, 1 baked white potato with 1 serving grass fed butter, Monster Mash (organic jasmine rice, organic pumpkin puree, ground beef, organic chicken bone broth), fat free Greek yogurt with organic blueberries and organic maple syrup, protein shake with skim milk and collagen protein/whey protein isolate blend -- ~2800kcal - ~300g carbs - ~200g protein - ~80g fat

I only eat twice a day due to having a bitch-ass stomach/digestive issues.

It's worth noting that the past few months I probably ate more like an asshole than I deserved to (went on vacation and visited family a few times), but I'd still say 75% of the time I was eating what I listed above. The other 25% was either pizza, sushi, or Chinese food, but still only ate once a day when doing that.

 

[Shivathedestroyer]

Breakfast: Cream of Rice with organic blueberries and organic maple syrup

Dinner: 6-8 pickles, 4 hardboiled cage free/organic eggs, 2oz raw beef liver, 1 baked white potato with 1 serving grass fed butter, Monster Mash (organic jasmine rice, organic pumpkin puree, ground beef, organic chicken bone broth), fat free Greek yogurt with organic blueberries and organic maple syrup, protein shake with skim milk and collagen protein/whey protein isolate blend -- ~2800kcal - ~300g carbs - ~200g protein - ~80g fat

I only eat twice a day due to having a bitch-ass stomach/digestive issues.

It's worth noting that the past few months I probably ate more like an asshole than I deserved to (went on vacation and visited family a few times), but I'd still say 75% of the time I was eating what I listed above. The other 25% was either pizza, sushi, or Chinese food, but still only ate once a day when doing that.

So you’re doing a lot of vertical diet principles, based on your diet above that’s a very clean and solid diet so if I were you I would just go back to being strict and on track with the diet, start to add in some cardio, increase your healthy fat intake a bit and hammer the supps and re draw bloods and see where you’re at.

Maybe being a bit sloppy with your diet over the last couple months and your genetic predisposition it got out of hand, with that being said you’re going to have to be very careful with your anabolic usage going forward due to this as well. Some people genetically can’t take running hormones from a health perspective due to health history, etc.

 

[Vanargandar]

So you’re doing a lot of vertical diet principles, based on your diet above that’s a very clean and solid diet so if I were you I would just go back to being strict and on track with the diet, start to add in some cardio, increase your healthy fat intake a bit and hammer the supps and re draw bloods and see where you’re at.

Maybe being a bit sloppy with your diet over the last couple months and your genetic predisposition it got out of hand, with that being said you’re going to have to be very careful with your anabolic usage going forward due to this as well. Some people genetically can’t take running hormones from a health perspective due to health history, etc.

I'm a nutrition major in college, so I try to practice what I preach...however, as a former fat kid, I love food, lol. Ideally if I feel the need to cheat I'll just stick with sushi instead of the pizza bullshit. I've always been on the higher side of cholesterol levels in the past, but this is the first time I've seen them look this bad. With my E2 being so low, do you think that could be contributing to it as well?

I agree with you though in regards to the amount of anabolics I use. I'll probably just stay away from any orals and keep anything moving forward under ~800mg of total gear. Obviously for this cycle I'll stick with the 420/420 and not deviate. Something like HGH wouldn't skew my lipids, correct?

As an aside, do you feel like adding something like a GW501516 could be beneficial for doing a blast like this, from a lipids perspective?

 

[focadrol]

Why did you decide to use masteron if you aren't at a low bf%? If you are worried about E2, I imagine you would have an AI on hand from your clinic, no? Also, why the awkward amounts of mgs instead of 500/600mg?

I was always told cycles/blasts (especially first ones) should be simple. This seems like a headache to manage.

Also, why are you only hitting each bodypart (besides arms), 1x a week? You should be hitting each one at least 2x a week. Not trying to be rude, genuinely curious.

Edit: Saw your tests. Cut down to 12-15% bodyfat. Start doing harder cardio every day. Take fish oil. Your cholesterol is horrible honestly. Get labs again after you get in better shape. You shouldn't be blasting right now...
Also, what's your BP at? I would also talk to a doctor if you are able to, to see if there are underlying issues.

 

[Vanargandar]

Why did you decide to use masteron if you aren't at a low bf%? If you are worried about E2, I imagine you would have an AI on hand from your clinic, no? Also, why the awkward amounts of mgs instead of 500/600mg?

I was always told cycles/blasts (especially first ones) should be simple. This seems like a headache to manage.

Also, why are you only hitting each bodypart (besides arms), 1x a week? You should be hitting each one at least 2x a week. Not trying to be rude, genuinely curious.

Edit: Saw your tests. Cut down to 12-15% bodyfat. Start doing harder cardio every day. Take fish oil. Your cholesterol is horrible honestly. Get labs again after you get in better shape. You shouldn't be blasting right now...
Also, what's your BP at? I would also talk to a doctor if you are able to, to see if there are underlying issues.

I'll address each thing as I can, but I appreciate you asking these questions as it helps put things in perspective for me.

As stated before, I'm sticking with 420/420 for my blast, the original dosages were done incorrectly on my part and I've since fixed that. I backload my compounds into an insulin syringe, so it's far easier to me to round up to each iu instead of being super duper precise and getting the 2-4mg difference per each .1 or whatever iu. Again, the cycle will be fairly simple moving forward as stated before, no orals, etc. In regards to an AI, clearly I don't need one lol, if you look at my bloodwork my E2 is extremely low, to which I can't figure out why as last time it was tested (~1.5 months ago) it was around 25. If anything, I'm waiting on someone more knowledgeable to chime in and help me out with that. I also want to point out this isn't "technically" my first cycle, as stated in my initial post and responses.

In regards to training, I've already fixed that and will be hitting each body part more than once instead of a traditional bro split. I've been doing that for a while on top of powerlifting and it always seemed to work pretty well for me, but I'm open to trying different things if the community here thinks I'll benefit more.

My blood pressure is impeccable. I take it 2-3 times a day and consistently sit between 105/65-115/70 with a resting heartrate of 55-75. I already know I have familial hypercholesterolemia, which will always reflect on my bloodwork regardless of if I'm on gear or not. I had an echocardiogram and stress echocardiogram about ~1 year ago and nothing came back abnormal.

As previously mentioned I'll be taking Citrus Bergamot at 1000mg per day and just ordered fish oil which I will be mega-dosing at ~2-3g per day. I already walk 2miles every day, but will up the cardio a little.

 

[Shivathedestroyer]

Man you have no estrogen because you have no testosterone, you’re all the way crashed from hopping off your gear without a pct.

Why did you stop your trt cold turkey like that in the first place?

I really don’t think you should be blasting a cycle with you labs looking the way they do, I would get back on a low trt dose of testosterone so your hormones aren’t crashed anymore, your e2 will come back and you’ll be in a normal range of testosterone.

Work on getting your health markers in check during that period of time and re consider a blast later.

 

[Shivathedestroyer]

Also, why are you only hitting each bodypart (besides arms), 1x a week? You should be hitting each one at least 2x a week. Not trying to be rude, genuinely curious.

This is not entirely true at all, it depends on how you train.

Myself I only train each body part 1x a week and it’s a program based on a lot of intensity progressive overload and mechanical tension, if you’re truly training hard in the gym you won’t be able to hit each muscle group twice a week. There is a reason almost all pro bodybuilders train like this.

If you’re not pushing yourself hard in the gym every week and training with a lot of intensity 2 times a week can work, there’s more than one way to skin a cat.

 

[Vanargandar]

Man you have no estrogen because you have no testosterone, you’re all the way crashed from hopping off your gear without a pct.

Why did you stop your trt cold turkey like that in the first place?

I really don’t think you should be blasting a cycle with you labs looking the way they do, I would get back on a low trt dose of testosterone so your hormones aren’t crashed anymore, your e2 will come back and you’ll be in a normal range of testosterone.

Work on getting your health markers in check during that period of time and re consider a blast later.

You're 100% right. I'll go ahead and do that and re-test my bloods in about a month. I can't thank you enough for giving such thorough responses and assisting me man!

This is not entirely true at all, it depends on how you train.

Myself I only train each body part 1x a week and it’s a program based on a lot of intensity progressive overload and mechanical tension, if you’re truly training hard in the gym you won’t be able to hit each muscle group twice a week. There is a reason almost all pro bodybuilders train like this.

If you’re not pushing yourself hard in the gym every week and training with a lot of intensity 2 times a week can work, there’s more than one way to skin a cat.

When I train, I essentially train the same way you do. Also with my schedule it's just easier to hit each body part 1x per week (except arms since they need the most work). Appreciate it again.

 

[Rido]

Why did you decide to use masteron if you aren't at a low bf%? If you are worried about E2, I imagine you would have an AI on hand from your clinic, no? Also, why the awkward amounts of mgs instead of 500/600mg?

Masteron doesnt have to be used at a low bodyfat. it is still a very anabolic agent that can result in growth.

its dated to think that mast wont provide gains. its also a great anabolic ancillary for 19 nors.

I agree with the 420/420mg lol

why not just say 400/400