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Varicocele and HCG
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Sdryx
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Great question. What did your doctor give you as the answer?
I would guess no as it is just excessive veins.
Keyword is "guess" remember.
Sdryx
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Vericose veins aren't really something that just "pop up" one day. They are a chronic condition. I know this as the women in my family suffer from this across generations and required surgery. Bad for them, fucking amazing for me (vascularity!)
It is likely that they have been there from the start and your doc just "noticed" them now. Which would imply that they have not "just now" started affecting your hcg.
Again, these are just guesses and speculation. Great question for your doc. Please let us know what he says!
It is likely that they have been there from the start and your doc just "noticed" them now. Which would imply that they have not "just now" started affecting your hcg.
Again, these are just guesses and speculation. Great question for your doc. Please let us know what he says!
G2Ready
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What does hcg stopped working mean?
It stopped keeping my balls plump.
Very low at the moment
He referred me to a urologist so we will see.
They appeared a few years ago. I tried coming off AAS and no increase in size after months of clomid therapy. LH and FSH were fine.
My goal is fertility.
G2Ready
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Although size can be an indication of fertility DURING fertility treatments.... where as the bigger the testicals got during treatment the more sperm they produced...
Actual size, and "plumpness" is a hard indicator.
A lot of things come into play, like the length of time on testosterone--- and your doses of HCG--- as to wether you have developed hcg desensitization.
If doing it for fertility the varicocele will prolly have to go-- heard it's a walk in walk out procedure
Varicocele CAN cause atrophy and loss of leydig cells as well as low sperm counts and low motility.
You'll prolly start with finger exam, followed by a ultrasound....
And a S/A to know where u stand.
Either way continue with the doctors they'll hook ya up better then us internet dudes
Although size can be an indication of fertility DURING fertility treatments.... where as the bigger the testicals got during treatment the more sperm they produced...
Actual size, and "plumpness" is a hard indicator.
A lot of things come into play, like the length of time on testosterone--- and your doses of HCG--- as to wether you have developed hcg desensitization.
If doing it for fertility the varicocele will prolly have to go-- heard it's a walk in walk out procedure
Varicocele CAN cause atrophy and loss of leydig cells as well as low sperm counts and low motility.
You'll prolly start with finger exam, followed by a ultrasound....
And a S/A to know where u stand.
Either way continue with the doctors they'll hook ya up better then us internet dudes
Thank you for your response!
Yes, the 'ball-size' theory is definitely not a good indicator of count, test etc but I am simply going by how I am feeling. My load size has diminished (few drops), balls are small, ejaculating doesn't feel as good and once finished, I feel like the life has been sucked out of me and my partner and I have been having unprotected sex for 1 year with no baby.
All my hormones are GTG even though test isn't the highest. Thyroid, LH, FSH is all optimal plus all other panels.
Update: just did an ultrasound. The technician/nurse can see a lot of swollen veins!
G2Ready
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It most definitely can affect testosterone levels
As well as fertility, and Leydig cells
Update:
Did a SA. Low motility. Count was 5mil.
Pretty shit however Much better than my count 3 years ago which came back to less than 1mil.
Seeing the urologist soon. He will probably put me on clomid. What's a good way to try and get him to put me on HCG + HMG/FSH instead of clomid?
Did a SA. Low motility. Count was 5mil.
Pretty shit however Much better than my count 3 years ago which came back to less than 1mil.
Seeing the urologist soon. He will probably put me on clomid. What's a good way to try and get him to put me on HCG + HMG/FSH instead of clomid?
G2Ready
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Most urologist will not--- you'll prolly have to go to fertility doctor
My urologist would not even prescribe clomid...
More reason to search for endo for trt
Just my experience
GL
My urologist would not even prescribe clomid...
More reason to search for endo for trt
Just my experience
GL
Hey mate,
The clinic I'm seeing specialises in men's health, male fertility, andrology etc.
The doc I am seeing has a few articles published on how safe clomid is for hypogonadal men so my guess is clomid is his drug of choice.
My issue with clomid is 50mg ED only brought my test up to mid 500s and I couldn't function. Free test was very low, as was estrogen.
G2Ready
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Awesome, especially if ur in good hands...
I didn't see a endo until fertility clinic..
My urologist only knew to prescribe T shots...
Sometimes I shouldn't rush to discredit a doc because my experience was unsatisfactory..
Think it's less endo vs urologist.. and more just finding a good doc... finally with a good one and it turned out to be endo
Awesome, especially if ur in good hands...
I didn't see a endo until fertility clinic..
My urologist only knew to prescribe T shots...
Sometimes I shouldn't rush to discredit a doc because my experience was unsatisfactory..
Think it's less endo vs urologist.. and more just finding a good doc... finally with a good one and it turned out to be endo
Yeah it definitely is hard to find a good doc. Especially in Australia. The states generally has more opened minded docs whereas Aus doesn't. My endo was pretty average. Fingers crossed.
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