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[Venom Lab]

sounds like ideal test ester and concentration... 0,4ml every 7 days as cruise, in thin oil, via 30G into delt...
1g blast with only 2ml per week, amazing

It is indeed in my opinion the best test ester of all.

So versatile and so easy to inject

 

[Venom Lab]

Damn i didn't know it was this risky. I wonder how the other sources like Blitz and so on do it safely. Self hosting?

The biggest issue is not hosting it safely, is the visibility it brings, I don't want that kind of attention.

I was thinking to have a website just for showcasing like a website pricelist, no possibility to order or anything just so that one can visualize the products but it is complicated, I'm a one man show, if I work on a website I don't have the time to work on brewing the products and so on.

Even just preparing packages can take a whole afternoon, imagine having to upload photos of products, update stocks etc. Probably for someone that is tech savy it doesn't take much but I have never dabbled with a website in my life, I'm not sure at the moment I have the spare capacity to start learning.

 

[YiL]

Ppl as I'm planning a very big restock of peptides, I'm battled on some things...

Concentrations of few products.

Reta for example, R30 and R20 I can offer a much better price compared if I buy R10. Most of the vendors in EU offer R10 and that's because it makes them more money but it's not cost effective at all for the client but maybe there is something I'm missing here..

I know ppl are worried of degradation because there is so much gymbro bullshit going around but I have been in many degradation test of both reta and tirzepatide and degradation of reconned reta at the 90 days mark is laughable.

Tirz is even better, 120+ days not even the slightest hint of significant degradation after bring reconned.

Still again maybe I'm missing something and you all prefer to have small 10mg vials, if that is the consensus I'll buy a bunch of those.

Tirzepatide same story, would you prefer, 10mg? 20mg? 30mg?

I think for reta 20mg is not too bad but tirzepatide 10/20mg is another silly concentration. Even if you do 2.5mg a week the lowest possible dose is just better on every level to grab 30mg vials and save money.

But hey I'm here to provide a service and let's not fool anyone profit from it, so of course if what ppl want are low concentration vials that's what I'll offer.

Open to suggestions and explanations. Just let me know what you guys want about these two substances

Definitely Tirz on 30mg!!!!

 

[trtchin]

The biggest issue is not hosting it safely, is the visibility it brings, I don't want that kind of attention.

I was thinking to have a website just for showcasing like a website pricelist, no possibility to order or anything just so that one can visualize the products but it is complicated, I'm a one man show, if I work on a website I don't have the time to work on brewing the products and so on.

Even just preparing packages can take a whole afternoon, imagine having to upload photos of products, update stocks etc. Probably for someone that is tech savy it doesn't take much but I have never dabbled with a website in my life, I'm not sure at the moment I have the spare capacity to start learning.

I think the pastebin is fine...

 

[TyLu17]

The biggest issue is not hosting it safely, is the visibility it brings, I don't want that kind of attention.

I was thinking to have a website just for showcasing like a website pricelist, no possibility to order or anything just so that one can visualize the products but it is complicated, I'm a one man show, if I work on a website I don't have the time to work on brewing the products and so on.

Even just preparing packages can take a whole afternoon, imagine having to upload photos of products, update stocks etc. Probably for someone that is tech savy it doesn't take much but I have never dabbled with a website in my life, I'm not sure at the moment I have the spare capacity to start learning.

Pastebin is fine.

It's better not to take unnecessary risks.

 

[PnkCy]

In fact Pastebin is superior. All of the products in a single view, always up to date, no need to navigate or lookup stuff.

 

[TheBulkerOnTheRoof]

I have a question if thats ok venom? Would it be possible for test U be brewed up to 400mg/ml? Preferably in mct oil as from what ive read on this thread and others its a slightly thinner oil and bit easier to pin.? I have no knowledge of brewing so forgive me if im asking things most would already know!

 

[Venom Lab]

I have a question if thats ok venom? Would it be possible for test U be brewed up to 400mg/ml? Preferably in mct oil as from what ive read on this thread and others its a slightly thinner oil and bit easier to pin.? I have no knowledge of brewing so forgive me if im asking things most would already know!

It would really need quite a bit of BB and it's gonna be prone to crash, as it's not very stable at that concentration. I find it quite useless tho at 400mg/ml it's used for TRT mostly, you do more than 300mg a week for TRT?

If you tell me what's the use you wanna do with it I may suggest you a good alternative.

BTW my test U in castor is not thick at all, you can draw it cold with a 25G and I have no problem injecting it with a 30G if you warm it up slightly or with a 27G cold. (1ml syringe).

 

[Methyl Mike]

sounds like ideal test ester and concentration... 0,4ml every 7 days as cruise, in thin oil, via 30G into delt...
1g blast with only 2ml per week, amazing

The longer the ester the higher molecular weight and that means there is less testosterone than a shorter ester per ML.

You can also cap the test u and use it orally. Absorption is actually not bad. Used to be available as Andriol. But back to the point, 100mgs of let's say test enanthate is about 72 mgs actual testosterone while 100mgs of testosterone undecanoate is roughly 63 mgs actual testosterone. Which is a significant difference. 500 mgs of test u will hit about as hard as 400 mgs of enanthate as a rough comparison, partly due to there being less actual hormone injected and partly due to the much longer half life.

 

[Venom Lab]

The longer the ester the higher molecular weight and that means there is less testosterone than a shorter ester per ML.

You can also cap the test u and use it orally. Absorption is actually not bad. Used to be available as Andriol. But back to the point, 100mgs of let's say test enanthate is about 72 mgs actual testosterone while 100mgs of testosterone undecanoate is roughly 63 mgs actual testosterone. Which is a significant difference. 500 mgs of test u will hit about as hard as 400 mgs of enanthate as a rough comparison, partly due to there being less actual hormone injected and partly due to the much longer half life.

He is talking about test D and the difference is 72% vs 66%

So 2ml of test E 400 are less potent than 2ml of test D 500.

Plus test D 500 is pipless for the majority of people, test E 400 is hit and miss.

Test D 500 is a lot smoother in the delivery too and the more you increase the volume of injection the more the difference in total mg of testosterone vs volume of oil become big.

3ml of test E 400 are 864mg of testosterone

3ml of test D 500 are 990
Quite the difference

2ml of test E 400 576mg
2ml of test D 500 660mg

So even 1ml of test D 500 is stronger than 1ml of test E 400.



Your math is not mathing.
Assuming stable levels are reached on both ester.

 

[BalticSea]

He is talking about test D and the difference is 72% vs 66%

So 2ml of test E 400 are less potent than 2ml of test D 500.

Plus test D 500 is pipless for the majority of people, test E 400 is hit and miss.

Test D 500 is a lot smoother in the delivery too and the more you increase the volume of injection the more the difference in total mg of testosterone vs volume of oil become big.

3ml of test E 400 are 864mg of testosterone

3ml of test D 500 are 990
Quite the difference

2ml of test E 400 576mg
2ml of test D 500 660mg

So even 1ml of test D 500 is stronger than 1ml of test E 400.



Your math is not mathing.
Assuming stable levels are reached on both ester.

Thanks for the pictorial illustration

 

[BabaJagga]

He is talking about test D and the difference is 72% vs 66%

So 2ml of test E 400 are less potent than 2ml of test D 500.

Plus test D 500 is pipless for the majority of people, test E 400 is hit and miss.

Test D 500 is a lot smoother in the delivery too and the more you increase the volume of injection the more the difference in total mg of testosterone vs volume of oil become big.

3ml of test E 400 are 864mg of testosterone

3ml of test D 500 are 990
Quite the difference

2ml of test E 400 576mg
2ml of test D 500 660mg

So even 1ml of test D 500 is stronger than 1ml of test E 400.



Your math is not mathing.
Assuming stable levels are reached on both ester.

will see about pipless, im quite sensitive guy but if its true, it will be dream scenario. will see after new year, i need to switch either way, gso oil is not for me

 

[TheBulkerOnTheRoof]

It would really need quite a bit of BB and it's gonna be prone to crash, as it's not very stable at that concentration. I find it quite useless tho at 400mg/ml it's used for TRT mostly, you do more than 300mg a week for TRT?

If you tell me what's the use you wanna do with it I may suggest you a good alternative.

BTW my test U in castor is not thick at all, you can draw it cold with a 25G and I have no problem injecting it with a 30G if you warm it up slightly or with a 27G cold. (1ml syringe).

Ok let me explain my situation, It has came to the point where i can only pin 1x per week now (sunday) due to commitments and logistics.

Ive always liked to keep my shots to 1ml max per pin no matter if its a cruise or a blast, so i always try to use the highest mg/ml stuff i can at a lower volume.

Ive recently started running 200mg test 75mg primo per week using pharmaqo tri ester test 400 and Chilton primo enanthate 150. Ive found this a really good balance of test and dht for myself to cruise along on. Happy days!

The problem i have now is because I have been used to eod pins for so many years Im really feeling the peaks and valleys of the test now (yep even only on 200mg) and it's not what I like to feel like, I'm far to used to almost flatline levels with minimal fluctuations. Estrogen is also much better controlled for me at more stable test levels.

After much time spent on steroid plotter it seems that test u pinned 1x per week is going to keep me as stable as possible and as close to my previous protocols.

I plan to use the undecanoate as my base (trt) along with primo e as it will never change, when blasting i can add test e or d on top along with primo e or mast e or whatever my heart desires at that certain time.

the whole point in me asking if it can be brewed to 400mg is purely down to ease of use for myself, it would make it possible for me to fit 200mg test u and 75mg primo e exactly into a 1ml barrel. The only reason I asked about differing from castor oil is i heard its hard to pin due to thickness, if thats not the case then it makes no difference to me personally what oil is used.

Many thanks for your service BTW, read through this thread lastnight and we really need someone like yourself this side of the pond! Much appreciated

 

[Venom Lab]

Ok let me explain my situation, It has came to the point where i can only pin 1x per week now (sunday) due to commitments and logistics.

Ive always liked to keep my shots to 1ml max per pin no matter if its a cruise or a blast, so i always try to use the highest mg/ml stuff i can at a lower volume.

Ive recently started running 200mg test 75mg primo per week using pharmaqo tri ester test 400 and Chilton primo enanthate 150. Ive found this a really good balance of test and dht for myself to cruise along on. Happy days!

The problem i have now is because I have been used to eod pins for so many years Im really feeling the peaks and valleys of the test now (yep even only on 200mg) and it's not what I like to feel like, I'm far to used to almost flatline levels with minimal fluctuations. Estrogen is also much better controlled for me at more stable test levels.

After much time spent on steroid plotter it seems that test u pinned 1x per week is going to keep me as stable as possible and as close to my previous protocols.

I plan to use the undecanoate as my base (trt) along with primo e as it will never change, when blasting i can add test e or d on top along with primo e or mast e or whatever my heart desires at that certain time.

the whole point in me asking if it can be brewed to 400mg is purely down to ease of use for myself, it would make it possible for me to fit 200mg test u and 75mg primo e exactly into a 1ml barrel. The only reason I asked about differing from castor oil is i heard its hard to pin due to thickness, if thats not the case then it makes no difference to me personally what oil is used.

Many thanks for your service BTW, read through this thread lastnight and we really need someone like yourself this side of the pond! Much appreciated

I can try to see if it holds in Castor oil 400mg/ml

During the holiday I'll make a test and let you know.

I do the same, cruise on test U and use it as a base for my blast and add other compounds or different test ester when I need more.

 

[TheBulkerOnTheRoof]

I can try to see if it holds in Castor oil 400mg/ml

During the holiday I'll make a test and let you know.

I do the same, cruise on test U and use it as a base for my blast and add other compounds or different test ester when I need more.

That would be great cheers, im not clued up on brewing so unsure what bb is and why more of it is bad.

If it is really not recommended to use more bb for whatever reason I would rather just go with the u300 you offer and up my pin volume from 1ml, it's not the end of the world.

I tried to send an email over to venomlab@pm.me lastnight before I realised you were closed for the holidays but it said the email doesn't exist, is there a new one or is it just shutdown for the holidays?

One last question, would primo u be doable? I've never seen or heard of it.

Many thanks

 

[IndividualMan]

primo u be doable?

that would require its own synthesis, not financially viable.
This guy custom brews, he is nota chemist (as far as I am aware)

Primo is expensive, primo base takes some time to synthesize, undecanoic anhydride is more expensive than enanthic anhydride.

Maybe a chinese manufacturer could synthesize that, but i dont believe anyone wants to actually use Primo U, plus the MOQ would be quite high (in price)

 

[Venom Lab]

That would be great cheers, im not clued up on brewing so unsure what bb is and why more of it is bad.

If it is really not recommended to use more bb for whatever reason I would rather just go with the u300 you offer and up my pin volume from 1ml, it's not the end of the world.

I tried to send an email over to venomlab@pm.me lastnight before I realised you were closed for the holidays but it said the email doesn't exist, is there a new one or is it just shutdown for the holidays?

One last question, would primo u be doable? I've never seen or heard of it.

Many thanks

It's not that more BB is bad, there is a point where doesn't matter how much you add, it doesn't help anymore keeping the raw in solution past a certain point.

BB is Benzyl Benzoate it's a solvent used to dissolve the raw in the carrier oil.

I'll let you know in around a week if the experiment is successful.

Don't know where did you get that email, on the first page there is my pricelist on pastebin and there you can find the only official emails. One for info and one for ordering.

 

[Venom Lab]

that would require its own synthesis, not financially viable.
This guy custom brews, he is nota chemist (as far as I am aware)

Primo is expensive, primo base takes some time to synthesize, undecanoic anhydride is more expensive than enanthic anhydride.

Maybe a chinese manufacturer could synthesize that, but i dont believe anyone wants to actually use Primo U, plus the MOQ would be quite high (in price)

Correct. I wouldn't even know where to start.

 

[dinfaralt]

Correct. I wouldn't even know where to start.

get a big ass secluded room that is off limits and wont be caught by the police. because the amount u need to produce requires big big machinery.

think like a atleast a 2 bedroom house size but both bedrooms merged into 1.

good start and why we cant outproduce the chinese. they do it in already legal facalities

 

[TheBulkerOnTheRoof]

It's not that more BB is bad, there is a point where doesn't matter how much you add, it doesn't help anymore keeping the raw in solution past a certain point.

BB is Benzyl Benzoate it's a solvent used to dissolve the raw in the carrier oil.

I'll let you know in around a week if the experiment is successful.

Don't know where did you get that email, on the first page there is my pricelist on pastebin and there you can find the only official emails. One for info and one for ordering.

Sorry that was me being an idiot, I didn't notice the info. at the beginning of the address!

I was previously looking at cernos depot 1000mg test u and now this has me wondering how they manage to get 1000mg to work without crashing? Would they have to add some other solvents in that case?