W&M Analytical Liaison (U.S. Domestic)

[T-Bagger]

Subbed (please work out)

PLEASE work out

 

[picholas]

PLEASE work out

Please sir, please work out sir.

 

[T-Bagger]

Please sir, please work out sir.

LMFAO!

 

[Holidaypay]

Fingers crossed seems its easier to get a 50 gallon drum of gear than it is to find a reliable source to test it

 

[Weights & Measures]

Please sir, please work out sir.

Lol!

Just as long as there is no talk of juice, ass, and pincushions in the same sentence.

 

[rpbb]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get that.

I already acknowledged that.

What I was asking is what do you mean by "They have 24 hours to make the source known?"

Make what source known?

ya know, why question the guy. It's his show, he can do whatever he wants

 

[tengtren]

Lol!

Just as long as there is no talk of juice, ass, and pincushions in the same sentence.

So your aware nice

 

[T-Bagger]

So your aware nice

I like this guy already!

 

[bickel29]

ya know, why question the guy. It's his show, he can do whatever he wants

Did you even read my post that you quoted?

If you did read it, then why would you be asking me this question?

IN THE POST OF MINE, WHICH YOU HAVE QUOTED ABOVE, I AM ASKING HIM TO CLARIFY HIS RULES.

So are you REALLY asking me why I would ask him to clarify his rules? Seriously?

If you really are asking me that, then I will answer you by stating the obvious. Umm, because if we are expected to follow his rules, umm, we kinda need to fully understand them.

I was asking him to clarify his rule, which I didn't understand.

And of course he can do whatever he wants. Please tell me when I ever stated otherwise.

 

[Heavy Iron]

Let's see what happens!

 

[Morefyah]

I know I probably sound like I am trying to harass and insult you, I promise I am not.

I just hate seeing good guys like you risk their safety and risk their freedom, in what seems like a good idea up front.

Trust me, everytime I read about a guy like Analyzer going down, I get a slightly sick feeling in my stomach over it, and feel genuinely bad for them. I hope this NEVER happens to you.

Didn’t Analyzer only get kicked out of college? No pokey right?

 

[bickel29]

Didn’t Analyzer only get kicked out of college? No pokey right?

Hey Morefyah, I haven't kept up with the final outcome, so I'm not sure buddy.
The last thing I think I remember seeing is that it was still ongoing.

 

[Weights & Measures]

Hey guys.

I have been contemplating an idea for a while, and I have decided to follow through with an attempt at making it work.

I have access to a domestic FDA registered and approved analytical testing laboratory that can analyze our AAS, hGH, peptide, and ancillary samples. I have used them for only 2 samples, Testosterone Enanthate and Clomiphene. I sent them blind samples, labeled sample#1 and sample #2. They were identified and quantified by GCMSD and the results emailed to me. The images of my samples and the results will be attached here.
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I am an active member here. After discussing this idea with someone whose opinion I value; I have decided that this could be beneficial enough to the community (and hopefully me too) for me to give up my member handle.

I’ve never joined any other PED forum; so this will be MESO exclusive unless my email address is shared after I reveal it to someone here in PM.

My association with the lab and its owner was simply blind luck. I asked a family member in a similar business if they had any contacts for this type of testing. A couple of months and a plane ride later I was talking with the owner and lead chemist and touring a big analytical laboratory that specializes in FDA regulated pharmaceutical testing; mostly THC presently.
I also got to kill a few wild hogs on that trip; but the lab contact was the bigger prize.

The owner of the lab agreed to test any samples I send them for a fee; but with the condition that the lab remains anonymous. Graphic printouts and analysis results will be provided; but the lab’s identifying information will be blocked from view for obvious reasons.

My part will be receiving samples to ship to the lab; and receiving results to forward to the customers. That is the way I intend to profit from this venture. The lab will make a considerable profit; and I will make a smaller portion that will cover shipping, my time, and some compensation for the risk involved.

Prices are as follows:

Ancillary raw powders identification and quantitation: $120

Ancillary Capsules, Tablets, suspensions identification and quantitation: $120

hGH identification and quantitation: $225

hGH identification and quantitation+ dimer content: $275

Peptide identification and quantitation: $180

Free amino acid identification and quantitation: $150

Hopefully Coming Soon

Hormone raw powders identification and quantitation: $120

Hormone in oil solution identification and quantitation: $120

Hormone Capsules, Tablets, suspensions identification and quantitation: $120

One or more of HPLC/UPLC-Qtof, GC/MS, and LC/MS are used in the analysis. Which is used depends on the sample being tested. I know that my samples were analyzed by GC/MS; and that hGH is analyzed by HPLC-Qtof.


All samples are to be sent for blind identification EXCEPT tablets, capsules, and suspensions. These must include the name of the active ingredient and, preferably, the name of the filler. The reason for this is that the chemist will have to identify the active ingredient and the filler if the sample is sent blind. Since the solubility of the active and filler may be very different; they said blind pill samples could be very time consuming and expensive to analyze.
Reverse engineering studies for copying tablet/capsule recipes are available for an additional cost. I do not know that price; but I can find out if there is any interest.

I do not want to receive controlled substances at this time. I believe it will be possible to accept hormone samples in the near future; but I have a couple more security measures to validate before I will feel a sense of security in handling them.

One very important disclaimer:

If I am sent a sample that has any opiate or benzodiazepine, the sender will have 24 hours to make the source known; or I will expose the sender on this forum. I will maintain a strict zero tolerance policy on opiates and benzodiazepines.


Typical turnaround time is 2-5 business days after the lab receives the sample.

Mail at my delivery site is late afternoon; so samples will be mailed the morning following my receipt in most cases.


Payment will be cash in mail only, included with the sample.

Instructions for sample packaging and shipping will be provided through PM on this forum.

I do have tutanota and protonmail; but they are inaccessible through the firewall at one of the locations I use. If email is needed, I will give the address through PM and I will know to check it when I can get access.

Most of my time on the forum will be late at night after my family is asleep. There will be days that I am unavailable; but I will do my best to reply to any messages within 24 hours.

I am very hopeful for this to be successful for a multitude of reasons. All I know of the lab’s services are the work they have done for me, the information I have gathered through conversation and the lab tour, and examining the work they have done for publicly traded companies. The owner and lead chemist are PhD trained in medicinal chemistry. The lab uses Agilent/Waters equipment for HPLC/UHPLC and Agilent/HP for the GC system.

As with everything in this field of performance enhancement drug use; this is uncertain territory. Hopefully we can test it out and produce a satisfactory solution to our biggest problem at the present.


Now in true MESO fashion; fire at will.

I made an inquiry to the lab about microbial contamination testing at the request of a customer.
Test for microbial contamination can be performed for $60 per sample.
This fee will be in addition to identification and quantitation if those tests are also desired.
So: $180 for identification, quantitation, and microbial testing.
$120 for identification and quantitation
$60 for microbial testing only
These examples are for hormone in oil solution.

The $60 microbial test can be performed on other samples as well.
It can be performed as a single test or as an addition to the identification and quantitation tests.

Also:
I am ready to accept hormone samples.

 

[Logan44551]

Didn’t Analyzer only get kicked out of college? No pokey right?

I think he just got kicked out of college, the laws in his country are different than here though

 

[Weights & Measures]

A question was posed to me about blended hormone testing (Sustanon, etc.) regarding any price difference.
The chemist replied that blended hormone samples will incur a $7.50 fee for each additional hormone in a single sample.
The additional fee is for the additional graphic printout and data entry for the additional esters.
For example: Sustanon (4-esters) identification and quantitation would cost $120 + $22.50 for a total of $142.50.
The sample will still be analyzed blind; but the additional money in the package could hint that there is a blended sample.
I cannot think of a way to prevent that hint.

 

[Steve84]

A question was posed to me about blended hormone testing (Sustanon, etc.) regarding any price difference.
The chemist replied that blended hormone samples will incur a $7.50 fee for each additional hormone in a single sample.
The additional fee is for the additional graphic printout and data entry for the additional esters.
For example: Sustanon (4-esters) identification and quantitation would cost $120 + $22.50 for a total of $142.50.
The sample will still be analyzed blind; but the additional money in the package could hint that there is a blended sample.
I cannot think of a way to prevent that hint.

No offence but you are approaching this wrong.
Set your pricing and do analysis.
You should be able to analyze something within costs. If you can't accommodate your pricing accordingly.

It's dumb to say oh I might have 4 hormones. Set a price, analyze the vial, do a report in your cost.

 

[Seattle23]

No offence but you are approaching this wrong.
Set your pricing and do analysis.
You should be able to analyze something within costs. If you can't accommodate your pricing accordingly.

It's dumb to say oh I might have 4 hormones. Set a price, analyze the vial, do a report in your cost.

OP is just a middleman

 

[Steve84]

OP is just a middleman

Then set a price applicable.
Base pricing based on 2-3 hormones. Charge that and when it's less make a little extra and more lose a little. But the curve balances it all out.
What's the point of testing if you spoon feed how many hormones are in it.

 

[Seattle23]

I understand what you're saying but OP is trying to get things off the ground. So i imagine things (price & selection of testing) may vary for the first while.

 

[master.on]

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Can you please ask the lab for printed reports right as they come from the machine (you can delete any lab info)?
The report you posted doesn't prove that any actual test was made, might be photoshopped. Wait, not even photoshopped, might be all made in Word or Excel.

But while we are on the topic of safety and your self proclaimed "hyper-vigilance" of your family's safety.

Choosing to start a business in which you are building the business around you receiving packages in the mail containing scheduled drugs PLUS cash IN THE SAME PACK, hardly qualifies as typical behavior of an individual who is truly "hyper-vigilant" of their family's safety.

You do realize that you'll be committing a minimum of 3 felonies per received pack, right?
--receiving illegal scheduled drugs
--using the USPS to transport illegal scheduled drugs
--tax evasion (assuming you do not intend to report the revenue generated in this venture to the IRS)

I think your feelings closer fit "I love my family and I am hoping they are not negatively impacted by my decision to start an illegal business". Hyper-vigilance would be better reserved for those members of our society who avoid committing felonies altogether, especially doing so in exchange for financial profit.

A remailer in a third country?