Warning, Geneza injectables

Joke, hence the ";)"




Uh, apparently not - unless he's sending vets the contaminated gear and selling the clean stuff on the website.

I think you misunderstood me. He'll send the vets top notch items. They'll in turn write rave reviews. Many will purchase goods from Naps and be disappointed. The ol' switcheroo. I've read countless reports of disappointing gear from Naps. Bunk oral tren, waaay underdosed test, bunk Hardcorelabs products, bunk Balkan products... The volume of complaints and reports of underdosed gear should tell him something ain't right with Geneza.

What Naps needs is a quality control department.
500mg test c every week, with low 800's result on bloods. Never again.
 
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Your right about Naps being a multi million dollar ugl and your again correct about me never knowing what its like to be at that level, but does it not seem odd this multi million dollar operation has filter particles floating in their home brew? Users are getting infections? Naps is a Ugl and nothing more. So he says the filters are disintegrating due to solvents? I find it quite amusing this "multi million dollar ugl" is saving a few dollars by overusing his filters thus
resulting in contaminated gear. Naps ships from a country where steroids are legal which is one reason why he is able to become who he has. I don't have any hidden agenda here or any problem with Naps but to say this Company doesn't have some serious quality control issues is insane. You have several people complaining about infections, this isn't something that should be ignored because he picked up the hospital tab but then again who am I? Just a small ugl.




I just want to make a few comments here because this post is misleading and comes from someone with a clear conflict of interest. Astro is saying because he brews AAS on a small scale, he can extrapolate that experience to someone running a multi-million dollar ugl. The reality is, the similarities between filling a few vials at home and brewing 100 L batches are night and day. At Naps' level, everything is different. The size of filters used are diiferent, the type of filters used are different, machinery is different, storage, etc. To suggest "it's just plain ole dirty gear bottom line" is either disingenuous or ignorant. Considering Naps' offer to give away 50 grand worth of gear to Meso members for trial, as well as offer to pay someones medical bills, suggests to me that he is someone who takes his business seriously and isn't going to turn out gear in a haphazard fashion.

Astro paraphrasing Naps' explanation by saying "Tear up the filters" is hyperbole. Naps said the issue is the solvents used to achieve the high concentration can cause the filters to deteriorate. The explanation Naps gave is very plausible - the pics of the vials clearly showed white particulate which would be consistant with pieces of filter media.

Naps said there have been problems with T 450 and Primo 200 in the past and he's since taken those products off the market but those problems should have been addressed before ever offering the products for sale. Naps clearly fucked up. Regardles, I believe his response to the problem was about the best he could do under the circumstances. I fully expected denials and victim blaming and instead, Naps accepted full responsibility and offered to pay the medical bills. Not many sources would do that and it was a stand-up move, IMO. I believe Naps is being truthful.

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Your right about Naps being a multi million dollar ugl and your again correct about me never knowing what its like to be at that level, but does it not seem odd this multi million dollar operation has filter particles floating in their home brew? Users are getting infections? Naps is a Ugl and nothing more. So he says the filters are disintegrating due to solvents? I find it quite amusing this "multi million dollar ugl" is saving a few dollars by overusing his filters thus
resulting in contaminated gear. Naps ships from a country where steroids are legal which is one reason why he is able to become who he has. I don't have any hidden agenda here or any problem with Naps but to say this Company doesn't have some serious quality control issues is insane. You have several people complaining about infections, this isn't something that should be ignored because he picked up the hospital tab but then again who am I? Just a small ugl.

I agree that there is a quality issue with those two products and that should have been resolved before those products went on the market. And you might even be right with your assessment. But, it just sounds disingenuous coming from a competitor.
 
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Your right it definitly does, but I only posted because I have a bit of knowledge in this field and what he said just didn't add up and I felt I should comment to educate someone who was being mislead.

I agree that there is a quality issue with those two products and that should have been resolved before those products went on the market. And you might even be right with your assessment. But, it just sounds disingenuous coming from a competitor.
 
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Naps said there have been problems with T 450 and Primo 200 in the past and he's since taken those products off the market but those problems should have been addressed before ever offering the products for sale. Naps clearly fucked up. Regardles, I believe his response to the problem was about the best he could do under the circumstances. I fully expected denials and victim blaming and instead, Naps accepted full responsibility and offered to pay the medical bills. Not many sources would do that and it was a stand-up move, IMO. I believe Naps is being Hey naps I appreciate your honesty about the situation, as promised I will restart my cycle and finish my review for you guys... But first I have to let my infections to clear, than I will filter out the gear once I can buy empty sterile vials and filters to filter it.... I also got infections from the test 400,(I take all the proper steps for my sterile injections and after injections),The first one on my right leg went away after accidentally taking bacterium thinking they ip for swelling this was before I knew the gear wasn't sterile, than after I found out I was worried, but everyone else and the person who ended up in the hospital had floaters so I thought I was g2g, so I pinned again, Thursday on my left quad and got another infection.. I'm on day five and still fighting it, but I am remaining confident the bacterium will do the job like last time, so I don't have to go to the hospital, that would be gay, the reason I think it's taking so long is cause i used penicillin on this infection thinking it would work just as good, but it hasn't so I switched to bacterium today...

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I did quickly fix that typo, in a few post back if you look you will see.. I also asked people to chime in in supporting astro or not, to better understand whats going on, like I said before this shit is all new to me, it will take time and years of experiencing shit my self to get a better grasps on it... dammit I delete to far much and deleted the part where you quoted me saying tareing up the filters....
 
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I want to give Naps/Geneza the benefit of the doubt, but the bottom line is that someone got hurt. 3 days in the hospital? I was out in 36 hours after having the whole left side of my face smashed in then reconstructed.

It is simply not worth the risk. I too believe that Naps is trying to make things right (my bill was, adjusted from 1998 dollars) about $16 grand. Chases' friends' bill will be at least that much.

I do hope that their win tabs and T bol are good. If so I will post up. I would also buy their TNE/D bol again. Absolutely love that stuff. However, w/ the exception of the aforementioned TNE, I will not ever buy a Geneza injectable.
 
If Naps cared so much about the quality of his gear, he'd manage some sort of quality control with Geneza's oils.

There are no quality issues other then with a few high concentration products! I will repeat myself but our injectables have pharm grade triglycerides base and are one of the smoothest on the market!
Ok we fucked up with a few high concentration products but that's it. We are selling 50k+ vials every month. Do you realize this number. There must be complaints when you do this volume. Imagine what would happen on boards if there was a quality issue.

Their test is usually not great (from what I hear and used). I used 500mg ew of GP test cyp and tested in the low 800's on the end of my 5th week!!! Low 800's!!

Code:
http://www.eroids.com/pics/gp-test-cyp250-lab-results

I'm sorry I can't trust this. Check the link above. This is a recent, random GP Test Cyp lab test. The guy was doing only 0.5ml = 125mg TRT dose. His test is close to 1200. You sometimes don't have it even with Watson 200mg a week shot.
 
I have my primary source, and I am very loyal to him....he said he had no problem w/ me getting a free package from Naps, and in fact he picked one up also.

I was going to wait to do a review, but doing so may result in some of our vet recipients being harmed.

I was a month from my last cycle, and I did a shot of the Geneza TNE 75 mg's w/Dbol. Stuff was awesome, an hour later I was getting amazing pumps.

The next day I did some Geneza test 250/deca 200 blend. I did a bit more than 1 cc, and also did another cc of the TNE. Jesus effin' Christ, that shit BURNED going in. I also got a huge knot in my right cheek.

The next day, being the genius that I am:rolleyes: I tried again on my left cheek. This time, the knot became huge, literally a shelf 6 inches long. I am done w/ that product.

I ran some of the Geneza test cyp and it was smooth going in. However, it seemed to be massively under-dosed to say the least. My pct ended w/ Clomid and tamox, but that was over a week ago, and my body is making very little test on its own. I only did 2 cc's of the cyp., but I have been basically laying around w/ no drive to get my old ass up. I have been sleeping way more, but am still tired. I could barely do cardio. Today I started back on my BIO NPP, and a cc of my trt script test.

So, the TNE/Dbol is good, very good. Just make sure you are already on a cycle, even if it is only 200 mgs/week test and 200 deca. You will love this stuff.

Stay AWAY from the test deca blend, unless you want to go to the hospital. My ridge/lump is getting smaller, but that was from 2 separate 1 cc shots. Load up the syringe and get ready for surgery. I read elsewhere that NAPS just recently found out about bad blends, and should stop/recall all of that item.

I have oral winny and T Bol, which I will review at another date.

You have a primary source? Funny because you seem to deal with many 'primary sources'.. Here are your posts from pro muscle.

Your quote endorsing steroid-market(scrioxx). And I find your last comment hysterical. Everything he has is golden? You personally tried every single product they make? Yeah, Ok..

K and SM are top notch!!:headbang::headbang::headbang:

Communciation is Stellar!!

T/A is stellar !!!:headbang:

Everything he has is GOLDEN! :) :headbang::headbang:

Your post endorsing Gear Depot

Gd is GTG and a bad ass :headbang:

Your post endorsing Pro Supply Co
This guy is the shit

LionHGH
This guy is perfection

CrimsonPharma
Communcation was steller, t/a was great and this guy makes sure you are taken care of :headbang:

Lightning Fast Anabolics - Thinking of trying these guys out now? LOL..
Going to have to check these prices out
 
You have a primary source? Funny because you seem to deal with many 'primary sources'.. Here are your posts from pro muscle.

I myself have used 5 different sources this past year alone (not counting research chems, peps). Now, at this point I only have one primary source but that doesn't mean I don't use others.

Edit: I forgot a SF order earlier this year. Make that 6 sources.
 
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I did not make these posts. Apparently, there was someone using my name. I can't say he stole it, because Pericles is a great historical figure (ironically, in his Funeral Oration he discussed how great men and civilizations become eternal) which is what he is today.

Is pro muscle a forum? I only am a member of this forum (obviously) and The Iron Den.

I help bodybuilders and combat athletes prep for competition. Gear use for each is very, very different. I hope this other guy is not trying to pass himself off as such.

Back to the issue of my primary source, it is a bit difficult for me to believe that you do not know about my primary source. I will give you a hint: He has the best products w/ the highest standard of quality control, good to excellent pricing, excellent communication and TA. IMO, no one is even close.

Even though you are struggling w/ who is whom, would you please be so kind as to send me a link of the other Pericles in action?

You have a primary source? Funny because you seem to deal with many 'primary sources'.. Here are your posts from pro muscle.

Your quote endorsing steroid-market(scrioxx). And I find your last comment hysterical. Everything he has is golden? You personally tried every single product they make? Yeah, Ok..



Your post endorsing Gear Depot



Your post endorsing Pro Supply Co


LionHGH


CrimsonPharma


Lightning Fast Anabolics - Thinking of trying these guys out now? LOL..
 
^^ He said he is loyal to his primary source. Well how loyal are you, using 6-7 others? You aren't..

For example, I am loyal to my wife. Am I still loyal dating 2-3 other women behind her back?

Yes he is. We both have the same primary. We have sampled all of his products. We even ran the fact that we were going to get in on the Naps offer past our primary, and he gave us his blessing. He does not carry TNE, and only has injectable winney so I picked up TNE and winney tabs from Naps.

We only use other sources if our guy does not carry them. It is in no way the equivalent of cheating on your wife. A better analogy would be that your wife was away on business, and you "choked the chicken" to porn in her absence).

Finally, Gunny should, if he does not mind, post up his pictures taken before he started on a cycle of our guys product, and what he looks like now. Yes, I designed his training and gear use, but he put in the hard work. He was able to dramatically change his physique because our source gave him top quality gear.

Post em, Gunny, and what was the time frame between the two set of pictures?
 
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