Was excited about running my first cycle of epistane..

Mana

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Until I found about this prohormone ban that just came in to effect.

Has epi shown up in the underground yet?
 
You aren't missing out on much, at least in my experience. I did not respond well to Epi at all. Some guys did really love it tho. I haven't seen any UG epi yet...
 
I don't think you'll be seeing a lot of PH or DS showing up in the underground. There's already plenty of real steroids out there that do a better job, are less toxic, and have been used for decades. The only reason I think guys used PH/DS is because they were legal.
 
Thanks for the feedback guys. I'm not holding my breath for epi to show up on the UG. I was fortunate enough to find some RPN havoc epi online and will be running it as my first cycle. I understand that there are more effective steroids out there but something as mild as epi suits my goals. I am looking for 5 pounds of lean mass but more importantly a cut in bf. I am a martial artist and excessive muscles are counterproductive for my sport in my opinion. I had been looking for legit var but we all know how hard that can be.
 
So just a little overview of what I'm planning to run. 5 weeks of epi at
30/40/40/40/40. I will be running Milk Thistle, DHEA and fish oil while on the cycle. I haven't finalized my pct yet but I am considering using OTC products such as PES Erase. I know that clomid/nolva/torem are more ideal but I am trying to limit the purchase of illegal supps. I will also be running DAA during pct. Is it a good idea to run DAA while on the cycle?
 
Current stats:
32 years old
5'9"
about 195 lbs
approx 15% bf

Goals from this cycle:
Under 180 lbs
8-10% bf

My routine revolves around my brazilian jiu jitsu /no gi grappling. I train bjj/no gi on Tues/Thursday/Sat as well as an additional session when time allows. I do 2-3 hip/leg centered workouts, 2-3 Core centered workouts and 2 upper body (push/pull) workouts a week. All cardio is sport based, intense and effective. I have had many different routines over my 18 years of training. I've done routines ranging from traditional muscle building splits, powerlifting routines, sports plyometric/speed training and high intensity circuit routines. My current routine suits my personal needs of being an avid amateur martial artist with two young babies and a needy gf.
 
Ebay has plenty of that shit on there .

$50 for a bottle of mutant plexx .

I dont like epistane caused my nips to lactate for a whole year .


http://m.ebay.com/itm/261771836594?nav=SEARCH
 
Wow, that's the first time I've heard of a man lactating from a product as mild as epi. Do you think it could have been ccontributed to other supps you may have been on too?
 
I've taken epi, h drol, and superdrol in the past. I was honestly the most shut down on 6 weeks of Epi. I would strongly encourage a serm for pct. I know I react different to this compound than many but better safe than sorry imo.
 
Just trying to help man:) For 40 bucks research nolva is well worth it I think. For ph's I've always liked nolva, recycle, and erase in pct...tapering the erase down. Using DAA is a good plan too. I'm sure some of the other guys might have different pct protocols
 
Wow, that's the first time I've heard of a man lactating from a product as mild as epi. Do you think it could have been ccontributed to other supps you may have been on too?
i was only on epistane. i also didnt pct. anyway i posted the ebay link
 
There was mislabeled epi going around - caused gyno symptoms and lactation. I remember reviewing the info before I spent 30% more on a well know brand, which turned out to be really good.
 
There was mislabeled epi going around - caused gyno symptoms and lactation. I remember reviewing the info before I spent 30% more on a well know brand, which turned out to be really good.
Do you remember what brand the bunk epi was? I have a few bottles of RPN Havoc.
 
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