Karl be a man and do the right thing, why do you need somebody to tell you whats right? Does anybody want to deal with someone who dosnt know whats righteous?
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Bravo - despite u have no clue what is AA seq, and that it's not necessary for shit it'll be posted by next weekend, like I said.
Guys, I know u r heavily biased against me, despite this I'm here, and respect u, having said this pls realize that I work under circumstances, I could arrange a terminal 10 AA seq, which is actually the defined test in USP, this is the only available one in regular labs, I inquired, I posted the reply from my professor, and we will post it within the estimated time, and u may all test us and confirm
Guys, I know u r heavily biased against me, despite this I'm here, and respect u, having said this pls realize that I work under circumstances, I could arrange a terminal 10 AA seq, which is actually the defined test in USP, this is the only available one in regular labs, I inquired, I posted the reply from my professor, and we will post it within the estimated time, and u may all test us and confirm
thanks CBS, I can barely work my cell phone.
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I know the difference between right and wrong, I said best is generally right, and showed immediate apologies on Eroids. Not under any circumstances the supplier may meet any demand of the buyer.
A relative of mine bought a house a couple of years ago, he supposed to get the keys on a certain date, he got it 9 months later as the constructions had some issues (doesn't really matter), my relative is right, and it's a Fn quarter million usd house, say he wanted to demand the money back ... he would never get it, he got small comepnmsation and an apology, this is an example, forgive me, not trying to justify the delay, but shit may happen, and the issue with best is an exception. I said and tried to work with "best" the best way to handle this
A relative of mine bought a house a couple of years ago, he supposed to get the keys on a certain date, he got it 9 months later as the constructions had some issues (doesn't really matter), my relative is right, and it's a Fn quarter million usd house, say he wanted to demand the money back ... he would never get it, he got small comepnmsation and an apology, this is an example, forgive me, not trying to justify the delay, but shit may happen, and the issue with best is an exception. I said and tried to work with "best" the best way to handle this
No karl you dont know what the aa sequence is used for, it will prove that you make hgh instead of someother peptide you jack ass. Karl you could have put my ass to bed with this, truth be told I was interested I just didn't want to be your lab rat.
Western-Biotech
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Bravo - thank u for raising the AA issue
Terminal AA seq proves the same thing as full AA seq - no peptide has terminal 10 AA identical to GH.
I will post full AA seq - I said and I will, don't buy till you're sure, I'll look now for the specification from my professor again
Terminal AA seq proves the same thing as full AA seq - no peptide has terminal 10 AA identical to GH.
I will post full AA seq - I said and I will, don't buy till you're sure, I'll look now for the specification from my professor again
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BTW - just my thoughts, no Fn GH supplier has ever showed any valid lab tests, I will, pls stay tuned, I wish Dr Jim will test it and confirm, or any other member with such abilities
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Here is the explanation on the full AA seq we'll do - (again when I first inquired only terminal 10 AA was available in an independent lab, we have already the eqyipment and technology to do the full AA seq, and will post in 2 weeks or less)
The test is:
Enzyme digest peptide mapping by LC-MS:
-Digest of the protein (by trypsin)- provides peptides
-Separation of the peptides by RP-HPLC
-On-line detection of the RP-HPLC using mass spectrometer (the method is
designated as LC-MS)
-Analysis of the data
The method enables:
1. Full length amino acid sequence (including N-terminus and C-terminus)
2. S-S bonds between Cystein residues in the molecule
3. Free S-H (free cystein residues)
N-terminal amino acid sequence by EDMAN Degradation is the method still in
use in many registered products. However, the LC-MS is more reliable
method, and thus, recommended for new products (recently I attended
meetings with German MOH and Israeli MOH).
EDMAN degradation method is still available as a service. If you insist
The test is:
Enzyme digest peptide mapping by LC-MS:
-Digest of the protein (by trypsin)- provides peptides
-Separation of the peptides by RP-HPLC
-On-line detection of the RP-HPLC using mass spectrometer (the method is
designated as LC-MS)
-Analysis of the data
The method enables:
1. Full length amino acid sequence (including N-terminus and C-terminus)
2. S-S bonds between Cystein residues in the molecule
3. Free S-H (free cystein residues)
N-terminal amino acid sequence by EDMAN Degradation is the method still in
use in many registered products. However, the LC-MS is more reliable
method, and thus, recommended for new products (recently I attended
meetings with German MOH and Israeli MOH).
EDMAN degradation method is still available as a service. If you insist
The funny thing is, Karl, only a few guys were "against" you when you first came to Meso with your GH scheme. The rest were willing to give you the benefit of the doubt while we waited for the test results you promised, but never delivered. Your failure to provide test results, along with all the bullshit, deflections and outright fabrications sunk you.
As walt Kelly used to say, "we have met the enemy and he is us." IOW, you need only look in the mirror to see who turned everyone against you.
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You may check back, I can't control the crowed here, but anyone who got from me GH had a superb feedback, among them well known members here, the test by Dr Jim confirmed it as well, all that has to do is to prove the ability to produce
So you want to be like every other growth supplier or do you want to break the mold? Thats what we are about here is breaking the mold, as for Dr.Jims testing you have to be on the pipe to think he hasn't done his own testing all ready. You know he could have been a good asset for you karl.
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Bravo - I will work hard to break the mold, pls Fn realize that if I make a test I must make sure it's done on my facility on my batch, so no one may refute it, and unfortunately I couldn't do it instantly,if we declared we do full AA seq like I posted then we have to get the technology, my professor apparently is very familiar with it, like I posted
Might it be in the conference room were you all were brainstorming? Maybe you should page the maintenance staff as they may have come across it cleaning up after the power lunch on employee dress down day(Fridays)?
Karl stepped away from whatever device he's broadcasting from.
The other windows he has open are certainly teeming with filth...the type of filth reserved for men that are complete frauds wearing soiled boxer shorts, a t shirt that doubles as a napkin, with dishes piled up in the sink.
For some reason I'm positive Karl employs the services of the lower to middle of the road escorts that toil in drug addiction and who can't quite put the small amount of cash together necessary to pay the rent of her studio which puts karl in the position of appearing successful as she can clean up and keep karl company to justify his allowing her to shower and use his washer and dryer.
Karl by the way another lie come on man you said you couldnt due the whole sequence and now you can.
Oh so now your buying the equipment that cost allah knows how much but you cant pay best back the 6k. Come on now did you think there would be no resistance, your not in Israel any more.
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Bravo - this is part of the issue - Much is invested in this venture, Mands saw I offered to refund best after this new batch is ready, I'm ashamed but these are my abilities, simply much much is invested in the GH venture, and this is mostly an investment which is/was in advance to any income which will be
Marcus
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It's not a refund when you offer him compensation in GH for the oils he ordered that you could not deliver. You are going to make a profit on this compensation, we all know that, none of us are stupid.
A refund is when you return money owed to your customer. That's it
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Thank you Mr Bravo, that is what I want a refund. I am agreeing to oils because I have to accept that Karl is never going to give me a refund.
Karl, why would you want to force me to take what I don't want?
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Karl, if you remember rightly, we had talks and you agreed to supply me the whole sciroxx line (before I knew what a cowboy you are) on a long term basis. This is what I sent you the money for. Your relative got what he wanted in the end...I will never get what I paid for because I am never going to stock your line!!!
You are forcing me to accept your oils that I no longer want. Why not give me a refund?
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