Western-BioTech - Pharma quality GH

DEMONxp - best didn't have so far till starting to post lies last week any reason not to trust the quality I supply or me.

After I made multiple suggestions he keeps lying, and make here drama in purpose, while i repeatedly prove I keep my word.

If best had any preferations he should get my offer for arbitration or other generous offers, and not start this crusade of lies here,

I'm aware I will look good if I refund him, but the guy is lying, threatening on me, actually posted names whether intentionally or not, and keep lying, I do keep my word, whether it serves his interest or not I am keeping my word, and like we concluded I ship the oils. We did conclude on GH weeks ago as well and I said I need time, he simply find it easy to manipulate u as some here are biased against me

Mands saw and have his honest opinion, and I'm not keep cooperationg with this circus

Stop mentioning mands.. He said you should give the money back, stop trying to make people believe he's on your side of this ridiculous situation..
 
DEMONxp - best didn't have so far till starting to post lies last week any reason not to trust the quality I supply or me.

After I made multiple suggestions he keeps lying, and make here drama in purpose, while i repeatedly prove I keep my word.

If best had any preferations he should get my offer for arbitration or other generous offers, and not start this crusade of lies here,

I'm aware I will look good if I refund him, but the guy is lying, threatening on me, actually posted names whether intentionally or not, and keep lying, I do keep my word, whether it serves his interest or not I am keeping my word, and like we concluded I ship the oils. We did conclude on GH weeks ago as well and I said I need time, he simply find it easy to manipulate u as some here are biased against me

Mands saw and have his honest opinion, and I'm not keep cooperationg with this circus
Exactly! Mands said that his suggestion was a refund. So either stop bringing him up, or use his suggestion. You can have it both ways and use his name to your benefit. It doesn't work like that
 
this is not what Mands said, refer to what he said and don't distort. I offered an arbitration immediately to best, and said he may bring the mediator, in such case if the mediator says I have to refund I must obey. He did't.

Of course any wise advice would say that I should refund him and please the audience, I know what me and best concluded, I know I keep my word, I know he has been trying to inflict much more damage then 6k by sheer lies as well as unbearable threats,

I will not go the extra mile and obey to what best says after what he's done, I keep my word and ship him oils like he posted here and concluded by PM, he first posted after he finally realize 5 days after I offered it that I may ship oils he said he likes oils, check this.
Now he may prefer refund honestly, he may just say it to make it difficult to me, I don't care as he lies so much that I really don't know
 
I think this situation needs a middle guy or something. I wish a mod was here to see the situation and make the final decision on what needs to be done.

Because if an argument lasts more than 5 minutes (or pages I guess on the interwebs) then both sides have lost.
 
I hope you all don't mind me jumping in. I just want to say, thank you to Millard for providing an uncensored forum where the truth eventually comes out. And thanks to all of you here that pursue this truth with rigorous, unyielding focus.

Prior to this thread, I wasn't aware of how Karl operates his business, but I see his true colors shine through. Karl, I sopped reading your replies do to all of your nonsense but rest assured, the message is loud and clear.

Best:

Sorry about your situation and even more sorry Karl is your only option for relief. I hope that by some divine intervention, you get a refund because I certainly would trust any product he sends. Good Luck.
 
I think this situation needs a middle guy or something. I wish a mod was here to see the situation and make the final decision on what needs to be done.

Because if an argument lasts more than 5 minutes (or pages I guess on the interwebs) then both sides have lost.

Shut the fuck up you Sciroxx loving shill.. Go back and read, there have been a few "middle guys" already.. All of whom were picked by Karl himself and they all disagree with what he's doing here..

Or maybe you're trying to volunteer your Karl-Kock loving self for this task?? :rolleyes:

Where the hell do you think you are? No mods are going to get in the middle if this..
 
this is not what Mands said, refer to what he said and don't distort. I offered an arbitration immediately to best, and said he may bring the mediator, in such case if the mediator says I have to refund I must obey. He did't.

Of course any wise advice would say that I should refund him and please the audience, I know what me and best concluded, I know I keep my word, I know he has been trying to inflict much more damage then 6k by sheer lies as well as unbearable threats,

I will not go the extra mile and obey to what best says after what he's done, I keep my word and ship him oils like he posted here and concluded by PM, he first posted after he finally realize 5 days after I offered it that I may ship oils that he likes oils, check this, he may prefer refund honestly, he may just say it to make it difficult to me, I don't care as he lies so much that I really don't know

Does it really matter what mands says? You have my money and have not given me what I sent it for, 3 months on. The right thing to do is give to me a refund!!

Why force a customer to take oils he no longer wants? Is this good customer service?
 
Intel - I offered an arbitration in first place, I've never said he's a bit wrong, I looked for solutions, it's all in PMs,

We've already concluded it between us few times as a fact, and he keeps changing his mind and not keeping his word according to his needs to make me look bad
 
I personally got my stuff from Karl and the only time that I had an issue was a delay in my previews package which got to me. But this situation might be more complex than what mine was. But I have to say I had never need a sponsor take time to get back to his customers like he does, on emails or on the boards.

And the other reason that I placed an order with him when the new kits came out is because Big A backed him up saying that he would come through and he did.
 
Intel - I offered an arbitration in first place, I've never said he's a bit wrong, I looked for solutions, it's all in PMs,

We've already concluded it between us few times as a fact, and he keeps changing his mind and not keeping his word according to his needs to make me look bad

Well is there a mod or an admin on here that could decide on the final decision.

I would say let him pick his offer right now and whatever you guys agree to then you both can come on here and say you both agreed (and not mention what if you guys like for security reasons). And then send him what you guys agree on.

If anyone else has an idea then please say so. But lets be constructive because 140 pages and this has gotten no where.
 
I personally got my stuff from Karl and the only time that I had an issue was a delay in my previews package which got to me. But this situation might be more complex than what mine was. But I have to say I had never need a sponsor take time to get back to his customers like he does, on emails or on the boards.

And the other reason that I placed an order with him when the new kits came out is because Big A backed him up saying that he would come through and he did.

How's the Karl-Kock taste there my bitch??

Note: This guy has been shilling for Sciroxx here since the first day he joined Meso..
 
Best - I offered GH and a compensation, I proved the circumstances that led me not to be able to ship oils, u said fine GH will go, we concluded it, like I concluded it with other members here, I do owe here to ppl kits as well, and watch we deliver the quality incl' compensation so u change your mind, ok... u have the right to, I said what I can do and also offered an arbitration, it's all very honest ones,

What u did ? a crusade of lies
If u came here and told - K owes me money, I want an arbitration then i guess I would have to sell a kidney and get to u the money, no u did lied again and again, and threatened on me, and even Fn posted names !

We concluded days ago I ship oils, fine, and what u do now ? again make a mess for the sake of making a mess
 
Shut the fuck up you Sciroxx loving shill.. Go back and read, there have been a few "middle guys" already.. All of whom were picked by Karl himself and they all disagree with what he's doing here..

Or maybe you're trying to volunteer your Karl-Kock loving self for this task?? :rolleyes:

Where the hell do you think you are? No mods are going to get in the middle if this..

Damn bro calm down. I was saying anyone. I work 12hrs a day and have to take the series 7 in like 3 weeks so I barely even have any free time to do anything.

Sorry I didn't know they were middle guys. I said mod because that's what some of the forums do and that is because they have banning power. So who where the middle guys?

P.S. Seriously bud I think for some reason you keep misunderstanding me or I am not wording things correctly so we just keep getting an argument and it's just not worth it. Calm down and lets see what we all can calm up with to help each other out.
 
Damn bro calm down. I was saying anyone. I work 12hrs a day and have to take the series 7 in like 3 weeks so I barely even have any free time to do anything.

Sorry I didn't know they were middle guys. I said mod because that's what some of the forums do and that is because they have banning power. So who where the middle guys?

P.S. Seriously bud I think for some reason you keep misunderstanding me or I am not wording things correctly so we just keep getting an argument and it's just not worth it. Calm down and lets see what we all can calm up with to help each other out.

I'm very calm, stop playing the 2nd language I'm confused crap with me, slick..
 
JB - I checked on u - U lie - U bought from S-F and even him knows and told me you're a troll, I wasn't in touch with him, but even him immediately knew what I was referring to when talked to him last days, you've never talked to me, I would never disrespect a customer of Sciroxx, when asked to prove it u made cheap stupid excuses,

You're a troll, and it's obvious
 
How's the Karl-Kock taste there my bitch??

Note: This guy has been shilling for Sciroxx here since the first day he joined Meso..

I also posted about the provider, grey tops, ergo pep, maxim peptide, purchase pep, genos, jintropin, I actually have helped multiple members find genos and other GH they were looking for. But I guess non of those count :/
 
A REFUND IS RISKING U MORE THEN ANY DELIVERY U CUNT, AND EVERYONE HERE KNOWS IT. I MAILED U 10 MINS AGO THE ADDYS I GOT, AND WAITING FOR YOUR CONFIRMATION, BUT U LIKE TO POST HERE NONSENSE INSTEAD OF MAKING SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE


No, we don't know it! More of the BULLSHIT AND LIES that we have come to expect from Karl the scammer.

You took his money and failed to deliver the goods. And you refuse to refund his money, giving bullshit excuses about security because you are a crooked fucking weasel, Karl. The fact is, you don't have the $6 grand, just like you don't have a GH manufacturing facility. Crooked fucking weasel!!!

You know, $6 grand is a drop in the bucket compared to the millions you supposedly invested in a GH plant so ask yourself this: Are you willing to risk those "millions of dollars" over $6 grand?

Is it worth DESTROYING your already shitty reputation rather than DOING THE RIGHT THING and refunding Best WHAT YOU OWE HIM? Don't you want to make this all disappear?

You are so FUCKING PATHETIC, Karl. YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO SOURCES EVERYWHERE!!!
 
I'm very calm, stop playing the 2nd language I'm confused crap with me, slick..

I don't think you are because you freak out and just start cussing. You just add insults and that's about it. You are kind of like that person on facebook that posts things just to get "likes" as many times as possible.

Also if you can't tell that I have problem with the English language and that I'm dyslexic then I'm sorry about that. You can tell by my sentence construction pretty easily actually.
 
Intel - I offered an arbitration in first place, I've never said he's a bit wrong, I looked for solutions, it's all in PMs,

We've already concluded it between us few times as a fact, and he keeps changing his mind and not keeping his word according to his needs to make me look bad
I'm not changing my mind dopey!! I want a refund but as you are refusing to give me one, I have accepted your offer of oils. I know I will never get anything as you are a scammer!!
 
It's not 6k, I explained why I couldn't ship all he asked for, I shipepd immediately what I could, I concluded with him on a deal, whether he really loves it, or accepted it under the circumstances it really doesn't bothers me today, I did keep my word and he didn't
 
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