demonxp
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Even if Jim speaks with his professor and verify it is real growth, none of it matters. With Karls tainted past on here, they will never speak anything that would draw in customers to Karls business. This is already a known fact.
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Western-BioTech - Pharma quality GH
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Hes talking about the test comparison
Western-Biotech
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What fascinates me is that if CBS posts something he thinks that it turns it automatically to be right ..... though as a fact it's wrong
This thread started with the set of tests we run on the GH we manufacture, including SDS-page and SEC as chemical assay, and biological assay tests to confirm clinical effect.
Now more tests were raised as an option to confirm it's GH , and I'm following this and doing them, and there will be included in the new batches from now on.
Now CBS will post again I don't have analytic data, and I will explain that I have, and we continue with this cycle ....... great .... great progress ...
We could arrange cross tests, make random orders, collect samples from customers who are members here, and arrange independent tests, I begged Millard to do so, unfortunately he can't finance it under the current budget, we may still do it and I'll finance it with auction for kits after we confirm the quality, if have other ideas I'll follow, this plus evaluating any issue regarding production and QA with my team on line by skype, lets do it as long as it needs by continuous skype conversations, lets get to the truth or as close as possible, but no ... lets continue the bullshit
My sole interest is the truth, I've offered any cooperation u may imagine to get us to the truth, but Dr JimAss team would never cooperate as it'll prove them wrong, so yes ... lets continue with the bullshit
This thread started with the set of tests we run on the GH we manufacture, including SDS-page and SEC as chemical assay, and biological assay tests to confirm clinical effect.
Now more tests were raised as an option to confirm it's GH , and I'm following this and doing them, and there will be included in the new batches from now on.
Now CBS will post again I don't have analytic data, and I will explain that I have, and we continue with this cycle ....... great .... great progress ...
We could arrange cross tests, make random orders, collect samples from customers who are members here, and arrange independent tests, I begged Millard to do so, unfortunately he can't finance it under the current budget, we may still do it and I'll finance it with auction for kits after we confirm the quality, if have other ideas I'll follow, this plus evaluating any issue regarding production and QA with my team on line by skype, lets do it as long as it needs by continuous skype conversations, lets get to the truth or as close as possible, but no ... lets continue the bullshit
My sole interest is the truth, I've offered any cooperation u may imagine to get us to the truth, but Dr JimAss team would never cooperate as it'll prove them wrong, so yes ... lets continue with the bullshit
It is right and we already agreed on that.
The SDS-page you posted was of a compound with the wrong MW for GH. IOW, it wasn't GH. The other test wasn't legible. You keep saying you posted GH data but that doesn't make it true. Besides, you should have reams of data.
As Ross Perot used to say, "words are plentiful, deeds are precious." The way to rebut my accusations (and end the cycle) is to post your GH data, not say you posted GH data when you didn't.
Your "sole interest" is your pocketbook. To say otherwise is an insult to our intelligence.
I don't trust any source that states they do It for anything other than profit. You may maximize your profits by being truthful, but you will not be so profitable if you are deceitful. You are NOT doing this to be a truthful fella 
Because; unless you are an idiot ; nobody commits felonies for free ..
Well it's obvious you have no idea what your talking about especially the liberty of free speech on an OPEN FORUM!
Such as when some new mate arrives on Meso curious about Karl's GH, there is 150 pages for them to read on this thread alone.
The fact is, excepting the very few whom were biased prior to the onset of this thread, the opinions expressed by the overwhelming majority are more objective and unbiased than what anyone will find on a
"moderated" forum, chalked full of rules and regulation!
Regardless of diverging viewpoints contained herein, the very process itself enables others to decide for themselves if K or his GH are GTG".
And while it's likely the thoughts of most are reasonably well established at this juncture, if K or his GH are indeed GTG, they will SELL THEMSELVES in spite of the behest of others.
So cease the conspiracy BS, as a means to an ends, improving your purchasing power for Ks GH by feeding him lines of unwitting insight. Because it's apparent you have nothing to offer excepting the reason K stared this thread, MONEY and NOTHING ELSE.
Finally just as it's not my job to either test Ks GH, or to draw customers into this business, that privilege is all Karl's or did you overlook that FACT, YEP!
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Hey Karl if "Demon" (what a telling avatar) is the new intellectual benchmark, YOUR IN DEEP, DEEP SHIT FELLA!
LMAO
LMAO,LMAO
LMAO,LMAO,LMAO.
Hey CBS, don't you think folk would be much more accepting of those posts in which your so overly critical if you put a "little smiley face" in there somewhere? Just saying, lol
Touche! 
boston597
Banned
Quick comment,Been waiting to see someone post using ASTRO in their comments .I didn't want to go back and read a shit load #1 because this Karl guy ist worth IT ,but I thought I read Astro talking about this like a year ago it all makes sense.Thanx didn't want to research on this messed up psychopath.What a Fucking retarded dude he is he is the definition of pathological lier
Western-Biotech
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I'm really amazed by the FORLORN trial to refute our very valid tests by claiming that the molecular weight is wrong... so we posted deliberately wrong info ? so we claimed that the molecular weight is ~22 officially and showed wrong numbers ? this is what u have to say along months ? while Dr Jim's very through tests found the expected molecular weight ! I explained over and over again that the colored markers shows it this way for the document, and I challenged anyone above all Dr Jim to talk online to my team and confirm this, but u keep using this claim like a drowning man clutching at a straw.
I challenged u to make an academic conversation with my team online to stop this nonsense, but u of course ignore it, more bullshit
Update on the AA seq test -
The sample will be submitted tomorrow (Thursday, 23.10.2014).
Test starts on Monday, 27.10.2014
Data collection, computational analysis and report are expected in 2-3 days
from start of test
I'll show Mands today the form of the tests incl' our signature on it, and talk to Millard about whom else to show it to
I challenged u to make an academic conversation with my team online to stop this nonsense, but u of course ignore it, more bullshit
Update on the AA seq test -
The sample will be submitted tomorrow (Thursday, 23.10.2014).
Test starts on Monday, 27.10.2014
Data collection, computational analysis and report are expected in 2-3 days
from start of test
I'll show Mands today the form of the tests incl' our signature on it, and talk to Millard about whom else to show it to
Thanks for the update Karl.
mands
mands
johnnyBALLZ
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Yes..
A very large portion of this order included 15 Kits of Scitropin which I tested and proved to be absent any hormone. I reported this to KARL and S-F. This along with MANY other unsatisfied customers saw KARL removed from Sponsor status at S-F. Since then it has been HUNDREDS of emails back and forth with very little towards my compensation for losses to myself, incurred because of KARL. I am tired of promises to me with no fulfillment while trying to show KARL the professional courtesy I allow every GOOD supplier I deal with.
Karl you have brought this all on yourself by telling this forum you have taken care of every customer of yours WITH compensation for all the trouble and then demanding we keep our dealings private so you can avoid the scrutiny you clearly deserve.
Karl you have brought this all on yourself by telling this forum you have taken care of every customer of yours WITH compensation for all the trouble and then demanding we keep our dealings private so you can avoid the scrutiny you clearly deserve.
johnnyBALLZ
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So Karl was rightfully removed from SF and chose to leave all those customers hanging since he couldn't make money on that forum anymore.. Sounds about right..
Has Karl not promised you kits from the new batch to take care of your Scitropin order? You are saying he swept it under the rug once being removed as a supplier on SF?
mands
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