Western-BioTech - Pharma quality GH

Another case of Karl failing to deliver on large orders:


antonio0422
03-01-2014, 02:03 AM
http://www.anabolicsteroidforums.co...-(Source-here)?p=246611&viewfull=1#post246611

"This is a warning about Karl and his company "Sciroxx". I was dealing with Karl also known as "K" from Sciroxx for about two years prior to this incident with no major problems other than the usual "missing orals" and being sent one thing when I ordered another. I thought he was an honest guy because he seemed to have a good reputation on the blogs. Well maybe that was then, but now I have to sat that he scammed me. On Monday August 19, 2013, I made an approximate $5000 order. I waited and on Saturday, September 14, 2013, I received approximately half of my $5000 order but no labels or pouches for the orals. I began to write to K asking him when the rest was coming and all he did from that time to now was lie to me. He constantly asked me for the addresses where theorizer was supposed to be delivered. He constantly asked me what was missing from my order. He constantly asked me the same thing over and over. He told me the lab was down, then he told me it was back up, but he never completed my order. Each time I patiently gave him the information, but now I can safely assume that he stole my money. I asked he to send me labels for the bottles and pouches for the orals. He did send me some labels and pouches, but not enough, so basically I'm stuck with unlabeled bottles and bags of orals. From August 2013 to now(March) 2013 is seven(7) months. He has NO plan of completing my order. I recently wrote to him telling him that I was going to the blogs with this information. I told him that if ever decides to do the right thing and send me the rest of my order, I will go back on the blogs and let everyone know that he made things right. He never responded to that message. I am giving you people this information because (A). He stole my money and I am very upset at that. (B). I can't see him being allowed to continue to do business when he is stealing from people. ©. I don't want anyone else to be scammed by this guy. If anyone does not believe me, I have all the messages between myself and (K) Karl or whatever his name really is. He's a thief and now he's running the following site "
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www.sciroxxonline.com/
". I know it's his because he told me in one of my communications with him. Order at your own risk. Like I said, I was dealing with him for about two(2) years with no major problems, but he stole about $2,500.oo US Dollars from me. You have been warned.
Karl, send me what you owe me or I will make it my lifes mission to post this on every blog, every site, and tell anyone who will listen. Remember, I have all the proof that everything I am saying is the truth. Just give me what I paid you for. Give me what you owe me!!!"​
 
CSB -

do u know if this customer got his order after all ? do u know if this complaint is even valid ? do u know how many outstanding reviews I do have ?


do u know what is AA full seq test is for ? have u ever seen one ?
 
No the problem happened when you sold bunk GH in the first place!! You think we believe you spent over $100,000 for 1 order of GH from the Chinese and never tested any if it?? You sent it out knowingly in the first place..

Hes actually telling the truth on this one. The scam biotech company provides the buyer with bogus test papers.
 
It seems ol' Karl received a ban at Eroids back in July for threatening members who had the audacity to complain about poor or no-show packs. Naughty, naughty, Karl.

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Hes actually telling the truth on this one. The scam biotech company provides the buyer with bogus test papers.

I'm sure that's true BUT he must've tested it as well !! I mean shit, every time I grab a few sero kits I test them!!

I find it impossible to believe he didn't do his own testing on an 80k+ order.. He realized he was fucked then in Karl fashion, proceeded to fuck his customers as evidenced here..
 
[karl i think your confused again, anyone that has kept up with this thread knows that YOU are the one with a problem with reality. actually i think it a combination of not knowing what is reality is, and not being able to keep track of all your lies...

QUOTE="Western-Biotech, post: 1131068, member: 67198"]Ironwill

The dud paid for the products and got them immediately, or as soon as could be delivered according to the order period. Then a problem with a product happened. I took responsibility and replaced it. I explained what can be done and some solutions suited him, he actually ordered these products anyhow and needed them, I also offered to wait for the GH and guaranteed the quality.

He got grade A products and testified on it, on the order and on the replacement, what does your description has to do with reality here?[/QUOTE]
 
I didn't pay for this forum like he asked.

now I'm intrigued - why they kicked u out of professionalmuscle doc ?

Ive NEVER been "kicked out of" or banned from ANY forum K, and you should know that unless your trying to concoct more BULLSHIT!

Come on K don't stop there lets see ANY evidence which supports that delusional statement!
But in the interim let's return to the reason/s you were ostracized from a very well respected forum like SF, why did they can your ass. Would it have anything to do with your sales tactics, the complaints to admin, your difficulties in dealing with customers in an equitable fashion, or all three.

I really doubt "SF" admin would mind if you elaborated further provided it was the truth. Hmm perhaps that the problem, having to tell the truth?
 
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i cant watch this thread anymore , every time i hear karls name i want to vomit..
you knowingly sent out bad hgh , you also took money for products you know you could not deliver, then you offer replacement shit your customers really dont want, you are a joke in fact a bad joke,
 
Come on K, now let's hear more about my absolutely undocumented banishment from PM, and your well confirmed several week dumping from SF!
 
I'm sure that's true BUT he must've tested it as well !! I mean shit, every time I grab a few sero kits I test them!!

I find it impossible to believe he didn't do his own testing on an 80k+ order.. He realized he was fucked then in Karl fashion, proceeded to fuck his customers as evidenced here..

He did do his own testing; but it wasn't until after all the serum tests started coming back at 0. He didn't believe the serum tests so he did his own test and then finally admitted he got taken.

If you think any of the generic Chinese resellers are testing their GH before shipping it to the customers you are in a fantasyland. Some of them will send it to trustworthy vets to get blood work done and then start selling it once things come back good; but thats about the best you are gonna get in todays UG GH world.
 
Come on K, now let's hear more about my absolutely undocumented banishment from PM, and your well confirmed several week dumping from SF!

He was suspended because of the bunk Scitropin fiasco and there were some people waiting for other stuff besides the GH as well from what I was told. I know this because I was communicating with the staff over there to try to work together in getting to the bottom of the whole bunk scitropin issue. Karl was never re-instated from the suspension and I don't know the details because I had given up at that point.
 
If you think any of the generic Chinese resellers are testing their GH before shipping it to the customers you are in a fantasyland. Some of them will send it to trustworthy vets to get blood work done and then start selling it once things come back good; but thats about the best you are gonna get in todays UG GH world.

Exactly!! And of course Karl knows they peddle garbage and would've tested an 80k order himself when he got it.. He knew he got fucked but still tried to make the money back by selling it.. OR he bought bunk GH on purpose which China sells for REALLY cheap to people like Karl..
 
Exactly!! And of course Karl knows they peddle garbage and would've tested an 80k order himself..

I have to disagree with that. At the time that Karl did the 80K order, the Hyge plant had not shutdown yet and there was a fair amount of decent product on the market. Karl truly believed that the company and their products were legit, even after the serum tests were coming back at 0 and even after I supplied him with proof that the company was a scam racket. It wasn't until he got back the lab test results himself that he was able to accept what had happened. Thats when he came up with this idea of having his own GH production outside of China. So he would have control and not get fucked again. Trust me, I have a shitload of emails back and forth with Karl about things and at that time I was pretty pissed off.
 
Yea yet based upon the testing KARL HAD PERFORMED on "his GH" and thereafter posted on Meso, it's apparent he has no intentions of improving upon the analytical failings of the Chinese.

Nonetheless, for some reason (golly I wonder what that could be, lol) you have ALWAYS overlooked those FACTS in YOUR "quest for the truth" MH!
 
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I would like to avoid the issue with S-F , no need to mess with the owner there, whom I respect, I had a good relationship with the members and mods there,

Actually no KARL, they hate your fucking guts. I have the PM's to prove that as well. Pat and Lou were the most vocal about my decision to accept you offer of 11 kits just because I figured take it or nothing. I was told not to accept anything but full replacement and they would back me.. as they have.
 
Yea yet based upon the testing KARL HAD PERFORMED on "his GH" and thereafter posted on Meso, it's apparent he has no intentions of improving upon the analytical failings of the Chinese.

Nonetheless, for some reason (golly I wonder what that could be, lol) you have ALWAYS overlooked those FACTS in YOUR "quest for the truth" MH!

Actually Jim, your tests showed that Karl had excellent quality GH and you even said that on the boards nobody has ever done as extensive testing as was done with mands sample. You continue to ignore the fact that you yourself had a sample in hand and didn't report a single thing bad about the GH from your testing. And I am pretty sure if there was something bad you found in your testing that you would have reported it.
 
I'm back very briefly. I'll try to summarize everything I've read since being gone.

KARL- the reason for most of the emails being posted is to illustrate the fact you gave me your word in front of the world my GH was being sent in JUNE. You have no integrity and LIED countless times.

I only accepted the 11 kits because in about 20 emails I could not get you to understand I don't care how good your new GH is, you told me the Scitropin was pharma quality. 15 kits is what I ordered from you and 15 kits is what I should get even if you have to buy seros or find and aids patient. It's your obligation

You would not send me any GH so I asked for oils after waiting since June for GH to arrive. You only sent the EQ and then blackmailed with the HEXADEX bartering your way back to S-F. Sorry, they have always backed me and I value that relationship.

The tabs?... for the last time, I never wanted the Aromasin. I wanted nolvadex
I never got the anavar and you said the clen was a gift. Plus whatever other tabs I'm forgetting at the moment.

I only took oil because I need to finish this deal. I only took this open after giving you fair warning weeks ago that unless you took my issues seriously I would. I want 15 Kits of GH that I paid for 8 months ago PERIOD. I will pay for the EQ.

It's really that simple.
 
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