Western-BioTech - Pharma quality GH

[muscle96ss]

I have the analysis in PDF form of Western-Biotechs(Red Top) GH along with Jintropin Batch#20131220(Green Top). There is one typo from the tester which I am trying to get corrected and there is no summary yet(I am trying to get it). Just an explanation via email that in fact it is GH.

mands

On pages 6 and 7 it states that the total protein content in the vial is 1.86mg. This has to be a miscalculation as that would be under 6iu's whereas it should be 20iu's per vial. That would mean our serum tests were taken with 3iu's and there is no way that we would have scored as high as we did. Can you please check with the lab and make sure they didn't miscalculate. Either that or I am misundestanding something, which may be the case.

 

[mands]

On pages 6 and 7 it states that the total protein content in the vial is 1.86mg. This has to be a miscalculation as that would be under 6iu's whereas it should be 20iu's per vial. That would mean our serum tests were taken with 3iu's and there is no way that we would have scored as high as we did. Can you please check with the lab and make sure they didn't miscalculate. Either that or I am misundestanding something, which may be the case.

I have emailed this exact question to get an answer after we discussed via email last night. I hoping to hear something back by the end of the day.

mands

 

[Western-Biotech]

They just calculated gross net amino acid weight, it's not the total weight of the HGH present

 

[Western-Biotech]

What showing here precise expected purity in the SDS-page - the test confirms all protein is a monomer GH. This is as good as any pharma grade GH will perform, your analytic chemist will confirm this immediately Mands

 

[muscle96ss]

Isn't that what HGH is? I thought it was a peptide of a 191 amino acid sequence(which is a protein). So there should be close to 7 grams of protein in a 20iu vial, right? Can you explain this better as I don't understand what I am missing.

 

[Western-Biotech]

I speculate the amino acids are not responsible to all of the net weight of the peptide, but also the Amid bonds, I may be wrong, this is just my best understanding,

What's important here is the SDS-page which reflects highest purity u may achieve, confirmed by the SDS-page I posted by our in house quality assurance unit.

This is as good as it may get, but maybe I should wait with this statement till Mands's analytic chemist will confirm this (and he will)

 

[muscle96ss]

So then do we know how many iu's of GH are present in the vial? Also, mands stated to me that the chemist said it was good GH and around 95% pure. While that is not quite pharm grade it is still much better than most of us were realistically expecting and I am impressed. Now all we have to do is get the injection issue taken care of and we are looking good.

 

[Western-Biotech]

The SDS-page shows higher then 95%, not sure what the 95% is based on, I'll wait for his explanation, and consult with my analytic professor, you may look at the detected mess and compare it to almost completely identical expected mess of HGH, this is much higher then 95%.

 

[mands]

I will see what the chemist says and I will update. I'm guessing I'll here back tonight. I believe the injection issues has been cleared up. I believe a new batch is ready. Is that correct Karl?

mands

 

[Western-Biotech]

We're ready and proud with the new batch. We test it these days.

 

[mands]

The SDS-page shows higher then 95%, not sure what the 95% is based on, I'll wait for his explanation, and consult with my analytic professor, you may look at the detected mess and compare it to almost completely identical expected mess of HGH, this is much higher then 95%.

I noticed this to after I looked closer. I have emailed for a explanation and a summary.

mands

 

[dnml]

@mands and @muscle96ss TY for this. Good input

 

[diesel707]

Awesome results and thank you Karl for providing a quality pharmacy gh for an actually affordable price. This a nice to see and hear I can't wait to try it out.

 

[ufcguy32]

So did u ever figure out the purity and mg?

 

[Western-Biotech]

I'll post here 2morrow a reliable reply, after consulting with my professor,

I assure 2 things -

- Purity is higher then 98% - simple to conclude this based on the SDS-page results

- GH content is 20 IU of course, simply based on like a dozen of serum tests

I appreciate Mands efforts to give us his experts interpartation as well

 

[mands]

Guys I am speechless. I just got an email back that I was following up on and I will have papers to follow.

Karl's HGH is 99.5% pure. I was telling him besides the reaction I had a good feeling about it.

Wtf 99.5% unreal and what a bonus to the community if this will continue.

mands

 

[cobra500]

Guys I am speechless. I just got an email back that I was following up on and I will have papers to follow.

Karl's HGH is 99.5% pure. I was telling him besides the reaction I had a good feeling about it.

Wtf 99.5% unreal and what a bonus to the community if this will continue.

mands

Wow, that's amazing! Thanks for all the work you did for the community mands, much appreciated.

 

[Jimmyhoffa59]

here comes the order overload train...im on it! Like you said the most important part of this is hopefully this stays consistent and we can maintain quality. It's not so much to ask.

 

[Western-Biotech]

My professor was deeply impressed with how thorough and complete were the tests, we don't run a mess spec in our quality assurance unit, so the tests are above any beyond any doubts and the most complete.

Howcome he had some remarks -

1. As you may all see on page 1 the samples were dissolved in 0.5ml of pure water. If the content of the vial is 6.7 mg http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/redirect-to/?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.synthetek.com%2Fproducts%2Fsynthepure-whey-protein-isolate%2F as declared then the expected concentration is 13.3mg per ml and NOT 2mg per ml as suggested !

2. As you may learn from the SDS page the purity adheres to 100% - as the professor explained even one molecule of salt which may be attached to the HGH molecule may lead to the insignificant difference between the observed mess of 22.106 and the theoretical 22.124 .

SO AS I STATED THE PURITY EXCEEDS THE PHARMA GRADE 98%

3. On the mess spec my professor asked what was the optical density of the http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/redirect-to/?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.synthetek.com%2Fproducts%2Fsynthepure-whey-protein-isolate%2F solution at 280nm ? Our measurements indicates 1mg/ml=0.74 which is actually identical to the results in the test of 0.743 ! again 100% match !

4. Regarding the total mass of 1.86 the professor suspects that it relies on the first assumed concentration of 2mg/ml (explained on section 1 above on my notes) which led to this bizarre report. Note that some http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/redirect-to/?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.synthetek.com%2Fproducts%2Fsynthepure-whey-protein-isolate%2F is always lost in the colon while inspecting the material, more may be specified on this regard if you like me to, just find it ineffective to overload too much info in one post

 

[mands]

Karl,

As you know I am very impressed with the GH you have made available to the community. I have never seen purity as high as this GH. Like I said I was literally speechless with a huge smile on my face when I received the email from the lab.

Please keep up the good work and keep a close eye on the operation as we all know things can go bad. Quality control will be the key.

mands