Western-BioTech - Pharma quality GH

I appreciate it and I did what I said I would do and that's all I can at this point.

I Initially thought I should. After I received the analysis back I just didn't think I needed to do so. I was happy with the serum and the other reports.

I will do an IGF-1 if you guys want me to do so.

mands

No need to do an IGF-1(you have already done plenty enough and we are greatful), the lab analysis already showed that it is GH and Dr. Jim agreed with that earlier in this thread. That issue has been put to rest. The only real issue that seems to be in question is whether or not Karl actually manufactures the GH himself or if he is rebottling pharm grade GH. Getting an IGF-1 test done will not answer that question.
 
One more time I will say how this makes sense. I can get pharm gh at $5 an iu. I would have to assume karl could get 1, 000 kits at at least $4 an iu. That would be 400, 000 give or take- and If I stripped down and cut them in half and rebottled that would be $2 an iu. Looking at the pics of his "lab" it looks like it could at least handle some rebottling. I then sell off 2,000 kits I have of 5iu pharm gh in a 10iu bottle and I get serums in the low 20's and mass specs that say the gh in the bottle is 99% pure. Once I sell through 2, 000 kits I am now getting the generic "gh" for about $.25 an iu and I multiply my money by EIGHT. at that point the next $400,000 I invest becomes $32,000,000. That doesn't sound economically viable to you? Really? Best part is he only invests 800,000 instead of the millions I claim to have spent on a lab
 
@mands I thought your tests performed by a reputable lab/university confirmed that the GH was 99.5% pure. And that even dr Jim admitted this, and thought that Karl is re-bottling pharma GH. Wasn't the issue only that he himself and/or his team was not producing the GH?
I thought it was in fact confirmed that it was hgh though, of extremely high purity.
 
No need to do an IGF-1(you have already done plenty enough and we are greatful), the lab analysis already showed that it is GH and Dr. Jim agreed with that earlier in this thread. That issue has been put to rest. The only real issue that seems to be in question is whether or
not Karl actually manufactures the GH himself or if he is rebottling pharm grade GH. Getting an IGF-1 test done will not answer that question.

No I DO NOT and DID not say anywhere this MANDS sample WAS GH, I've said a damn protein ssequence MUST BE DONE to be SURE,

But YOU have chosen to overlook that fact bc you are a K Shill.
 
One more time I will say how this makes sense. I can get pharm gh at $5 an iu. I would have to assume karl could get 1, 000 kits at at least $4 an iu. That would be 400, 000 give or take- and If I stripped down and cut them in half and rebottled that would be $2 an iu. Looking at the pics of his "lab" it looks like it could at least handle some rebottling. I then sell off 2,000 kits I have of 5iu pharm gh in a 10iu bottle and I get serums in the low 20's and mass specs that say the gh in the bottle is 99% pure. Once I sell through 2, 000 kits I am now getting the generic "gh" for about $.25 an iu and I multiply my money by EIGHT. at that point the next $400,000 I invest becomes $32,000,000. That doesn't sound economically viable to you? Really? Best part is he only invests 800,000 instead of the millions I claim to have spent on a lab

A couple of points. Firstly, the lab test that mands conducted determined that there was 20iu in the vial. Secondly my serum test score was 26.7 on the Somastim, there is no way in hell I would score that 5iu of GH as you are suggesting. In fact my score was right on target with where I would expect it to be based on my other tests with both generic and pharm grade GH.
 
Mands tests proved beyond any doubt it's 99.5% purity GH, it's conducted by USA university perfectly incl AA analysis, but I'll address this issue to my professor, and if necessary protein seq' will be done on our side boss,

Again - if u would have any interest in the truth u would have make your tests, or at least reply to my PMs asking repeatedly what evidence you're looking for
 
No I DO NOT and DID not say anywhere this MANDS sample WAS GH, I've said a damn protein ssequence MUST BE DONE to be SURE,

But YOU have chosen to overlook that fact bc you are a K Shill.

Really, you didn't say anywhere that mands sample was GH? Perhaps this post will jog your alzheimers mind:

MANDS did perform an analysis on a compound which was most assuredly GH BUT evidence I've reviewed shows this was ACTUALLY a PHARM GRADE product (like HUMATROPE) which K would like Meso members to believe he produced! He CLEARLY DID NOT!
(I say "most assuredly" because another test called a protein/peptide sequence analysis would be required for absolute proof, the sample which MANDS had assayed was certainly rHGH, with very rare exceptions)

Go back to page 33 and reread what you wrote fucking idiot!!!

And by the way, I am a shill for Karl in the exact same sense that you are a shill for GE-TM I guess.
 
No I DO NOT and DID not say anywhere this MANDS sample WAS GH, I've said a damn protein ssequence MUST BE DONE to be SURE,

But YOU have chosen to overlook that fact bc you are a K Shill.
Isn't if telling how K get a pass by certain members for BS data BUT that's ok right.

I mean crap K tried but obviously doesn't know what he is doing but let's give hima pass bc we are all "bro", lol.

K has no further obligations to prove anything bc a FEW "bros are willing to give him a pass. Well that's called bro science on Meso and it along with K should be ostracized ASAP
 
Isn't if telling how K get a pass by certain members for BS data BUT that's ok right.

I mean crap K tried but obviously doesn't know what he is doing but let's give hima pass bc we are all "bro", lol.

K has no further obligations to prove anything bc a FEW "bros are willing to give him a pass. Well that's called bro science on Meso and it along with K should be ostracized ASAP

Man, you really do have a serious mental disease don't you. Karl doesn't get a pass, he still has to provide the test(s) that we have been asking you for days to list. All you have to do is state what you want as proof but you refuse to do that. So yes, Karl gets a pass until you can pull your head out of your ass and get with the program.
 
Really, you didn't say anywhere that mands sample was GH? Perhaps this post will jog your alzheimers mind:



Go back to page 33 and reread what you wrote fucking idiot!!!

And by the way, I am a shill for Karl in the exact same sense that you are a shill for GE-TM I guess.

Yea and you have posted that before tard but read, the entire post!

I say most assuredly ........BUT A PROTEIN SEQUENCE MUST BE DONE ....

Go to school meathead!
 
Yea and you have posted that before tard but read, the entire post!

I say most assuredly ........BUT A PROTEIN SEQUENCE MUST BE DONE ....

Go to school meathead!

OMG, you can't even comprehend your own posts. You stated that is most assuredly is GH and that the only reason you are saying "most assuredly' is because there are very rare exceptions in which a protein/peptide sequence analysis would be absolute proof. You then go on to say, "the sample which MANDS had assayed was certainly rHGH". I am about ready to go off on you brother, I don't appreciate the manner in which this is being handled. You are acting like an utter and complete idiot and have no credibility based on what you are saying now. Go back and read your own fucking post, you admitted that it was GH in mands test.
 
Hey muscle head do you wanna discuss K's GEP post? Yea I didn't think do, LOL

I would be happy to discuss anything with you if you can do it in a straight up legitmate discussion, thats what I am here for. However, your behavior had shown that you are not capable of that type of discussion.
 
Mands tests proved beyond any doubt it's 99.5% purity GH, it's conducted by USA university perfectly incl AA analysis, but I'll address this issue to my professor, and if necessary protein seq' will be done on our side boss,

Again - if u would have any interest in the truth u would have make your tests, or at least reply to my PMs asking repeatedly what evidence you're looking for

MANDS did NOT post and purity DATA, so stop the BS K!
 
Your right he didn't post it. It was confirmed by the person conducted the test him via email. Are u calling mands a liar? Or he just made up the 99.5 purity ? So Jim what kind if dr. Are you If u don't mind me asking?
 
OMG, you can't even comprehend your own posts. You stated that is most assuredly is GH and that the only reason you are saying "most assuredly' is because there are very rare exceptions in which a protein/peptide sequence analysis would be absolute proof. You then go on to say, "the sample which MANDS had assayed was certainly rHGH". I am about ready to go off on you brother, I don't appreciate the manner in which this is being handled. You are acting like an utter and complete idiot and have no credibility based on what you are saying now. Go back and read your own fucking post, you admitted that it was GH in mands test.
Oh get over it BOZO, I know what I wrote and have emphasized through out this thread. I've said it multiple times.

But you obviously can't read, i say a peptide sequence must be done to unequivocally prove it's GH, with RARE EXCEPTIONS!

But if you knew your ass from a hole in the ground you would know those "rare exceptions" occur, and peptide sequencing iss NOT always 100% conclusive because HYBRID GH produced by Ecoli recombinant technology may result in a sequence VARIANCE OF UP TO 2%

I'm done discussing this issue with you also MH
 
Oh get over it BOZO, I know what I wrote and have emphasized through out this thread. I've said it multiple times.

But you obviously can't read, i say a peptide sequence must be done to unequivocally prove it's GH, with RARE EXCEPTIONS!

But if you knew your ass from a hole in the ground you would know peptide sequencing is also NOT 100% conclusive because HYBRID GH produced by Ecoli recombinant technology may result in a sequence VARIANCE OF UP TO 2%

I'm done discussing this issue with you also MH

Why don't you post a poll doc? Have people read that post and vote whether or not you are stating that you believe mands test showed that GH was present.
 
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