I think mands made a mistake by putting his trust in someone who didnt deserve it, nothing more.
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Western-BioTech - Pharma quality GH
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Crap Mands deflect the issue all you want BUT, the fact remains you used me and my access to a lab to sell Ks GH.
That is why I ceased posting the data period its no more complex or convoluted than that.
But then again you never have been able to understand the importance of K not having his own damn tests have you. No doubt that's why you never asked him for "proof" what he was selling was GTG.
Finally locate ANYWHERE on this thread were my comments deviated from those of the chemist who wrote the conclusions. The ONLY thing I did was emphasize points that needed emphasis.
One classic example is you and K insisting the lab chemist write a "conclusion" about the quality and purity of the GH in the absence of an HPLC or Trypsin cleavage assay.
Well maybe that's how Ks and Anguses lab comply with existing standard but thats the very worst means of ensuring the lab results I've conducted are GTG AND will stand up to the scrutiny of other similarly trained professionals.
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Wow. I still am baffled here on the posting at mands. He didn't post one thing about where or who was doing the tests. Yet somehow he's getting crucified and called into this like he is helping Karl. Yet the guy who had all the testing kept that info private to himself and roasted everyone trying to figure out if this gh us good or not. Yes I get it. U want to prove Karl lied about being able to produce gh. OK so where did this stuff come from? What pharmacy brand did he supposedly switch it for. It's definitely not Chinese gh we all know that would roast your ass if u had to admit that one. Now your gonna analyze more people's gh? Doesn't sound like someone too worried about their safety to me. Why didn't u come forward earlier when people were begging for more tests. He had every bit of information needed yet did nothing
Western-Biotech
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I do manufacture the GH.
We'll try to get a license next month some where on the globe, it's 6 months procedure. It requires further testings and approvals from FDA (non US), so I'll have a testing facility for this in 2-3 weeks. This is not our QA unit, which its tests I showed, but independent lab. I won't dare to reveal here details, but I welcome Dr Jim or anyone to challenge any test, we'll compare our specific tests to any independent tests.
I state again and emphasize that I do produce the GH, and if anyone would have any integrity what so ever, or interest in the truth, they would send more samples to Dr Jim. I know members here have samples - Fn send them !
Despite the fact that Dr Jim makes this community corrupted I welcome him to share with us these tests, and I hope he may get his credibility somewhat back, as I learned to see that he has true testing abilities - Dr Jim pls show which tests which are done by FDA u like me to show, I'll have them (don't make up now science fiction tests), and we may compare results
I emphasized as well that our current QA measures are beyond any necessary for our production line, and Dr Jim tests actually proved it. Based on this lets ask Dr Jim to make an anonymous online chat with my professor so once and for all we may have an opinion, at least, on if my expert is real or fiction, and so if my claims
We'll try to get a license next month some where on the globe, it's 6 months procedure. It requires further testings and approvals from FDA (non US), so I'll have a testing facility for this in 2-3 weeks. This is not our QA unit, which its tests I showed, but independent lab. I won't dare to reveal here details, but I welcome Dr Jim or anyone to challenge any test, we'll compare our specific tests to any independent tests.
I state again and emphasize that I do produce the GH, and if anyone would have any integrity what so ever, or interest in the truth, they would send more samples to Dr Jim. I know members here have samples - Fn send them !
Despite the fact that Dr Jim makes this community corrupted I welcome him to share with us these tests, and I hope he may get his credibility somewhat back, as I learned to see that he has true testing abilities - Dr Jim pls show which tests which are done by FDA u like me to show, I'll have them (don't make up now science fiction tests), and we may compare results
I emphasized as well that our current QA measures are beyond any necessary for our production line, and Dr Jim tests actually proved it. Based on this lets ask Dr Jim to make an anonymous online chat with my professor so once and for all we may have an opinion, at least, on if my expert is real or fiction, and so if my claims
Western-Biotech
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And to emphasize for another issue, I want no misunderstandings - even if we have some where FDA license it doesn't mean the Somastim is pharmaceutical licensed product, as what I send to u is certainly not licensed, but I state clearly that likes last Dr Jim's tests we'll meet pharma standards by and FDA pharmacopuia
The only deflection is coming from you Jim.
I know the importance of K needing his own test and told him so on this thread. So don't try and talk down to me. You fucked up and now are trying to back pedal.
You are done here in my book. Your game is finished and everyone sees now what you really are. I made a bad judgement call with you. I will be more careful next time.
mands
I know the importance of K needing his own test and told him so on this thread. So don't try and talk down to me. You fucked up and now are trying to back pedal.
You are done here in my book. Your game is finished and everyone sees now what you really are. I made a bad judgement call with you. I will be more careful next time.
mands
Western-Biotech
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If Dr Jim has any integrity I want him now to talk to my professor. He may talk in 2-3 weeks as well with the testing lab to coordinate any test, I beg him to do so
Again - Dr' Jim - don't make up science fiction tests - only tests which defined in pharmacopuia as necessary to HGH
Again - Dr' Jim - don't make up science fiction tests - only tests which defined in pharmacopuia as necessary to HGH
johnnyBALLZ
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If YOU had any integrity you would admit (as you've eluded to several times in this thread) that you're not making this GH!! You'd sound a lot better that way but your brain doesn't work like that does it?? You're preprogrammed to lie about everything like most scammers are.. If it we're pouring rain you'd try to convince me it's only partly cloudy..
muscle96ss
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Dr. Jim, why don't you take him up on this offer?? You want the truth, its staring you right in the eyes; all you have to do is say "yes", end of story!! It will get this thread back on track and get the resolution everyone wants. You say that you like Karl, well why don't you work together for the better of the community? You guys here on Meso go at sources like they are the enemy and make it a very hostile environment. Why not try to work with them until they are proven untrustworthy; especially when they are willing to work with you like in this instance.
Mands what I state publicly does NOT negate your responsibility maintain YOUR code of science, especially to someone you barely knew like MH, COL.
You honestly believe your justification for providing fodder to MH is what mates want from someone they can trust. It's called LOYALITY Mands and you have proven yours is quite limited.
Moreover my offer to perform tests for others occurred some time AFTER you had broken your confidentially agreement with me!
Western-Biotech
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I happen to produce it, now we know Dr Jim has an ability to test, lets coordinate any FDA tests for say 20 days from now, I'll try 15 days.
Lets have a chat with my professor as well, lets do it, or u r afraid that my professor, who is an analytic chemist as well will laugh on your claims ? lets fdo it for this community
Lets have a chat with my professor as well, lets do it, or u r afraid that my professor, who is an analytic chemist as well will laugh on your claims ? lets fdo it for this community
Western-Biotech
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"The bigger the lie the more will believe in it"
Lies lies lies - read this Fn thread - any test , and these are all Fn independent hostile tests proved it's pharma grade, allot of BS is all around, read the repeated tests (Dr Jim's and serum tests which shows consistent results on different anony orders.
any one who ordered it knows it's pharma quality, and test shows it, anyone who claims differently has never tested it, besides Dr Jim who tested but created this deceive
U say I don't product it - lets test it - lets coordinate parallel accepted tests - and see the results
Lies lies lies - read this Fn thread - any test , and these are all Fn independent hostile tests proved it's pharma grade, allot of BS is all around, read the repeated tests (Dr Jim's and serum tests which shows consistent results on different anony orders.
any one who ordered it knows it's pharma quality, and test shows it, anyone who claims differently has never tested it, besides Dr Jim who tested but created this deceive
U say I don't product it - lets test it - lets coordinate parallel accepted tests - and see the results
muscle96ss
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Jim, sounds like you are sour grapes. You state that my revelation is no big deal and that you thought everyone knew about it anyway. You also state that you told others in private as well. Then Flenser states that he just assumed it was you. So whats the big deal now that everyone is on the same level? How has this revelation of this super secret information put you at any extra risk or put you in harms way? All it has done is let everyone else know what an assclown you are and how you have mislead this thread with your lies and deceit. So get your panties out of their bunch and face up to it and quit trying to deflect it onto mands and myself. You got caught running your little game, lets move on!
Oh and Brutus - How is this any different then you posting about Gman's PM to you about Karius's cialis? I guess its ok when it benefits you, but when someone else does it they then become a snitch? Is that how it works?
Lets see DIM WIT
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ARE ALL ON MY IGNORE LIST bc they bring nothing constructive, intellectually sound or useful to those other members wanting to be a part of Meso's uncensored discovery process!
Enjoy the discussion from the curbside boys
Those tests u promised to perform on YOUR GH how are they coming K? Should we expect some results in a couple days? Oh great looking forward to comparing our tests!
Hey did you ever make it right w BB? Remember him, yea he's that Meso dude who "couldn't walk" after pinning your GH "which shows consistent serum results among several orders".
Yea but can they walk anymore LMAO!
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muscle96ss
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Lets see DIM WIT
Dnml
Italian Moron
Boring Burr
Meat Head
ARE ALL ON MY IGNORE LIST bc they bring nothing constructive, intellectually sound or useful to those other members wanting to be a part of Meso's uncensored discovery process!
Enjoy the discussion from the curbside boys
More assclownery from the resident moron. I guess Dr. Jim really wants the truth and to find some answers. Like I have said from the beginning, actions speak louder than words. To think that this delusional moron thinks that he has brought something constructive to this thread. Seriously, its been DESTRUCTIVE instead!!!
It was immediately after him posting my part of that pm... I was completing his incomplete post...
To be fair- you are correct. If you had posted a retaliatory pm it would be identical. But you didn't have one to post from jim, right?
muscle96ss
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There was no PM, but if you read what I posted it makes sense. I told Jim to stop disputing mands tests after the role he played in them. Jim played dumb and told me to elaborate that he had NOTHING to hide. I then asked him if he was sure and he responded to go ahead. So obviously it wasn't of concern to him. Go back to around page 69 or 70 where it started. The guy dug his own grave.
I do not have to defend myself any longer.
Your code of silence about not wanting me to say anything was told to me after the fact. I've already apologized for not letting you know I mentioned to muscle96ss that I was having you help me with the test.
Jim your testing on MESO is nothing but a fart in the wind. It is gone and it will never happen now.
mands
Your code of silence about not wanting me to say anything was told to me after the fact. I've already apologized for not letting you know I mentioned to muscle96ss that I was having you help me with the test.
Jim your testing on MESO is nothing but a fart in the wind. It is gone and it will never happen now.
mands
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