What are the odds of getting "bunk" gear

Thanks for the replies guys. You're right.. I am being a bit impatient. And I'm also pretty sure I have proper gear, just don't know 100% sure. Then again, you guys can't be 100% sure my gear is legit either so it's kind of a silly question. Nevertheless I still appreciate the answers I got so far.
Test your gear bro. Only way to know. Talk to this dude he can help you out @janoshik
 
Isn't that super expensive tho? And wouldn't that mean I have to sacrifice the vial I'm using by letting it get tested? I am going to do bloodwork for sure though.
A little. $90 per sample + shipping. For me it's worth the money. I test every batch. I don't trust any source.
 
Have you had bad gear before?
Of the 12-15 samples I have sent for testing 3 were not good. I've had Anavar 10mg tested result showed Winstrol 4mg, another 25mg var has 5mg Tbol. Quite a few underdozed, but legit. I don't so much mind a little underdozed, but 25-50% is done on purpose. I always ask for the % refund. Some ugls will not accept the test results. They say they don't trust the tester (of course). But I test it for my piece of mind.
 
One more point, working with raw in my opinion helps me since I can test and entire raw with one sample. Finished prod you are sampling from a pool of product.
 
Do you think testosterone is less faked/ underdosed than other substances?
cheap raws, one of the few compounds easily checked for somewhat accurate dosage by bloodwork, easy to sell in huge quantities at low prices - yea, I'd say so.

now take something like tren hex, which is the opposite in every regard, especially differentiating it from tren e - that's something worth faking.
 
Do you think testosterone is less faked/ underdosed than other substances?
Test is cheap, ive rarely seen it faked, some underdosed, some overdosed, I still wont pin unless I've tested it. Blood work tells you test is higher, but not what you're taking exactly. I don't pin first and then check later . I test first then pin. That's just me. Others may have trusted sources they've know over the years etc ... I don't trust anybody.
 
Test is cheap, ive rarely seen it faked, some underdosed, some overdosed, I still wont pin unless I've tested it. Blood work tells you test is higher, but not what you're taking exactly. I don't pin first and then check later . I test first then pin. That's just me. Others may have trusted sources they've know over the years etc ... I don't trust anybody.
can't it be argued that your total test is what you should go by rather than how much you're injecting, as the response to x amount is individual anyways?
 
Test is cheap, ive rarely seen it faked, some underdosed, some overdosed, I still wont pin unless I've tested it. Blood work tells you test is higher, but not what you're taking exactly. I don't pin first and then check later . I test first then pin. That's just me. Others may have trusted sources they've know over the years etc ... I don't trust anybody.

Just asking, you test pharma brands too always? I don’t. I do test ugl stuff. And I don’t test the stuff I get from my TRT pharmacy.
 
Just asking, you test pharma brands too always? I don’t. I do test ugl stuff. And I don’t test the stuff I get from my TRT pharmacy.
No need to test what you buy from the pharmacy. Odds are with you there bud. Gear from ugl is made by dude with pots and pans with zero oversight [emoji23]
 
So you trust pharma brand Test from “reputable “ black market sources?
Why would you not trust sources from here that have gotten tested many times in the lab and by dozens of users via blood work as well?

pharma isn't a magic word anymore, with the rise of competition, ugl's have really stepped up in recent years.
 
I saw a pharmacy with glass door all boarded up, obvious someone broke in, and thought to myself "ha, I bet someone gave up trying to figure out which UGL to buy from"
 
I saw a pharmacy with glass door all boarded up, obvious someone broke in, and thought to myself "ha, I bet someone gave up trying to figure out which UGL to buy from"
Haha, that's the first thing I'd do if ww3 breaks out. Take all the testosterone I can get!
 
Maybe I’m negative, maybe I’ve just fried my receptors......but I’m starting to think all UG gear is bunk or underdosed.....
If I had access to it, I’d only get pharma stuff......just my opinion
 
Thanks for the replies guys. You're right.. I am being a bit impatient. And I'm also pretty sure I have proper gear, just don't know 100% sure. Then again, you guys can't be 100% sure my gear is legit either so it's kind of a silly question. Nevertheless I still appreciate the answers I got so far.
Awesome. Just read the threads in the underground as well as using the amighty search feature :)

Good gear is out there but ya gotta do the digging. Happy hunting!
 
Maybe I’m negative, maybe I’ve just fried my receptors......but I’m starting to think all UG gear is bunk or underdosed.....
If I had access to it, I’d only get pharma stuff......just my opinion
read the articles on this website on receptor downregulation and saturation, it's broscience and your belief in pharma being any different than a good ugl is just trying to find excuses for problems that are likely related to your diet/training/recovery. remember that all pro's use ugl gear as well, as very few compounds are even available pharmaceutically nowadays.
 
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