what do you guys think of SST?

I have never heard once gotten fake testosterone. I guess this is just an IQ test. I’ll make it really simple. Read reviews. Read test reports. Talk to consumers. Follow some logs. It’s not hard.
 
SST is what it is & that’s a source board.

That said, there is one thing I do like over there is the almost total lack of aggressive members bullying other members, hurling insults & generally behaving obnoxious cunts to many.

There’s no reason whatsoever that we can’t have that level of civility & respect for others in general.

Please, please please …. don’t give me the bullshit “freedom of speech” argument there. It’s bollocks & no excuse for being a cunt to your fellow members IMO.
 
SST is what it is & that’s a source board.

That said, there is one thing I do like over there is the almost total lack of aggressive members bullying other members, hurling insults & generally behaving obnoxious cunts to many.

There’s no reason whatsoever that we can’t have that level of civility & respect for others in general.

Please, please please …. don’t give me the bullshit “freedom of speech” argument there. It’s bollocks & no excuse for being a cunt to your fellow members IMO.
That's is like the most ignorant thing Ive seen. Its 1 thing to be a total asshat all over.

Its another when someone is calling out ansource for lying, putting no effort in an introduction, condescending to possible feedback and suggestions and thinking thenfact he submitted a few pictures / tests to a mod entitles him to he treated like a veteran sources and doesnt need to show his tests, inventory, sterilization or anything else to his customers.

Than when he complains to admins they bam the people who are causing detrimental declines to his sales because other people stsrt picking up on his lack of transparency in what is essentially an "illegal business". And anyone who could ever defend such actions from a source or mods or admins defendinf said source won't go or last long.

It's almost like claiming a restaurant is using dirty dishes and plates to serve food and instead of addressing said issues they show the admins a few clean plates and they say well everything looks good here! Despite the large amount of complaints and obvious issues.
 
SST is what it is & that’s a source board.

That said, there is one thing I do like over there is the almost total lack of aggressive members bullying other members, hurling insults & generally behaving obnoxious cunts to many.

There’s no reason whatsoever that we can’t have that level of civility & respect for others in general.

Please, please please …. don’t give me the bullshit “freedom of speech” argument there. It’s bollocks & no excuse for being a cunt to your fellow members IMO.
I think people don’t toe the line between spoon feeding, actual advice, and telling someone what they’re doing is hazardous to their health/harm reduction.

I’ll help you find labs, tell you that advice is poor, or flat out say it. There’s a tactful way between “Don’t do that because X” and “lol u retard” that we sometimes don’t meet.

Telling a user to search is fine if it’s general but if it’s not something in your memory bank or easily searchable, post a link or wait for someone with more experience to advise. Some of us have been around long enough to know that some members have better experience with XYZ than others. They’ll chime in, usually do if you hit an @ and wait and see.
 
Its another when someone is calling out ansource for lying, putting no effort in an introduction, condescending to possible feedback and suggestions and thinking thenfact he submitted a few pictures / tests to a mod entitles him to he treated like a veteran sources and doesnt need to show his tests, inventory, sterilization or anything else to his customers.
Unfortunately some sources get away with doing the same on Meso. The problem on Meso isn’t the mods allowing this though, it’s the members who either don’t speak up, or in some cases, actively defend the sources refusal to comply with what was supposed to be a mandatory requirement in Meso.

It really is about time we as a community started challenging this at each & every occasion.
 
SST and AG were my first online sources. Everything was solid for about a year until I found Meso.

Only thing I hate about SST is their bloodwork rules. If you want to be verified for store credit on bloodwork, you have to get it done with specific circumstances depending on the drug. So even when I was doing a cycle with ment, they wouldn’t count my bloodwork because I was pinning Test E every day and that wasn’t allowed. I know it’s easy to lie about and pass, but that was the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard tbh.

Luckily Azteca still accepted my bloodwork and gave me store credit. Haven’t tried anyone else nor wanted to. Never had a bad experience with them. My order only got messed up once and they sent me about 3 months worth of cialis and viagra to make up for it (and replaced what was wrong).
 
No pics, tests, or information. But sure, hes alright according to alexdavis. He did that here he would be roasted alive.
You want to bet on that mate?

Stanford didn’t post any tests for about the first 3 years he was here & has never posted pics & has refused to do so many times. He only started posting tests after several of us hammered the fuck out of him over this over & over again in a particular thread. At the same time, very prominent members defended him vigorously against our criticisms.

Cat Cafe USA? Zero info, he was just allowed to ride in on the back of Liska’s thread & literally no one said a fucking word.

Whilst we’re on the subject of Liska, he was one of Jano’s best customers (& to be fair raised the testing bar on Meso), he also refused point blank to provide info or pics & got very bolshie & bitchy when challenged about that.

Then we have TripleB, who posted pics, info & test reports …. & he was being torn a new arsehole pretty much most days for the duration he was here. Whatever he did, whatever he said, it was never enough to satisfy the baying pitchfork mob that BBBG et al whipped up against him.

So yeah, we can justifiably criticise SST for its failings, but Meso is far from perfect either & unlike on SST, Meso members can make a difference as to how things go here, what is deemed acceptable etc.
 
Then we have TripleB, who posted pics, info & test reports …. & he was being torn a new arsehole pretty much most days for the duration he was here. Whatever he did, whatever he said, it was never enough to satisfy the baying pitchfork mob that BBBG et al whipped up against him.
you have this wrong lol. the problem is that he wasnt posting test results at first. then somehow he was on the same batch after 6+ months claiming that he brews super big batches. somehow he went from being fronted raws to being able to brew batches for multiple compounds that lasted 6+ months, while never showing the supposed large beaker that he brews with. things dont add up. not to mention that there was an issue where he sent out a product with a different batch# on the label.

things werent adding up, which is why he got shit
 
you have this wrong lol. the problem is that he wasnt posting test results at first. then somehow he was on the same batch after 6+ months claiming that he brews super big batches.
Yes mate, he didn’t post results at first. But as time progressed he did & also started implementing some of the changes that were suggested.

But “the clique” never let up on him. Any reply that wasn’t immediately accepting of the unrequested advice on how to run every aspect of his business led to him being told by many that he was “being cunty”.

By contrast, Liska belittled & insulted pretty everyone who challenged him or even asked a question he didn’t like. I was on the receiving end of his insults & belittling many times & for several months it was mainly just myself & the unfortunately now absent @mrsupergod that had the audacity to question Liska’s practices, attitude & behaviour on the forum. But “the clique” never gave him shit. Not for insulting members. Not for posting outside of his thread. Not for anything.

Oh & certainly never for this slip-up from his introduction:
As sources have various ways to manipulate batch numbers and test results, frequent blind testing of products throughout the year by customers is the only way to ensure constant product quality, so I'll offer 100€ + the cost of shipping in store credit for blind samples submitted to Janoshik. Please post results both good and bad to this thread!

3. Known issues (as of June 2021):

1. I switched MCT supplier midway through the Primobolan batch so while some vials are crystal clear, others have a faint yellow colour.

So TripB wasn’t the only one passing off multiple batches under one lab test.
 
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Just to add, I’m not defending TripleB’s poor practices which were highlighted in the beginning of his thread. I’m pointing out that historically all sources are not given the same level of scrutiny & held to account as much as others.

I’d like to see that change.
 
Just to add, I’m not defending TripleB’s poor practices which were highlighted in the beginning of his thread. I’m pointing out that historically all sources are not given the same level of scrutiny & held to account as much as others.

I’d like to see that change.
Is he the guy from UGbodybuilding lol
 

Every Source should provide with each shipment ...

1. 3rd party C of A on finished product batch specific to that shipment
- endotoxin screen
- metals with ICP
- purity(ies) / concentration(s) using hplc plus ms (or gcms)

2. C of A for bulk api for each batch (hplc plus ms or gcms) upon request.

Of course Sources would do themselves a big favor if they screened for impurities as well as purity on the APIs (aka raws) upfront so no surprises on the finished batches. First things first.

There should never be any surprises with a batch. Completely addressable.

And please clean up the product listings...

1. mg is not a unit for API concentration. Use mg/ml.

If I see 200 mg listed and later on a mention that it is a 10 ml vial I am going to assume your stuff is drastically underdosed. That should be clear to you to.

Best practice is listing the API concentration plus the total API per total vial volume.

Example: 300 mg/ml (3000 mg per 10 ml)

2. Denote volumes (ml) for finished vials. People don't want to guess.


3. List the oil used for injectables and also the excipients/preservatives used plus their concentrations.

What is this deal with not disclosing what is in the vial? You don't know, or is it a trade secret lol? Come on.

4. Spend at least as much time assuring your customer you know basic chemistry as you spend on the beautiful packaging design and gimmicks/marketing.

Be the change.
 
Unfortunately some sources get away with doing the same on Meso. The problem on Meso isn’t the mods allowing this though, it’s the members who either don’t speak up, or in some cases, actively defend the sources refusal to comply with what was supposed to be a mandatory requirement in Meso.

It really is about time we as a community started challenging this at each & every occasion.

No boards perfect. But meso by far is the best 1 and has alot more potential. If you could get a larger majority of people to essentially make the same demands and refuse to buy until said demands are met it would help alot. Not usre who this "clique" is people refer to as I am newer to the boards, but seems they had the right idea.

I said he doesn't seem like an asshole or a retard,

If you translate that to mean he's gtg, that's on you bud.

Than you have something wrong with you, like big-time. If you read that topic and read his replies and couldn't connect the dots of him being a total asshole to any attempt to get him to post something or prove something and his responses being "I showed the mods that's good enough" than usually following up with some wanna be witty BS... yeah. call it what you wanna call it. They are both assholes. And if you can't see or figure it out, explaining it won't help you either. after all you probably can't read my "crystal meth on tren" typing anyway. Especially since his claimed to be a 10 year veteran producer and nobody has even seen him anywhere. Be careful who you defend, it just lessens your own credibility.
 
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