What happened to READALOT?

[Ghoul]

BP and my heart response as someone who has gone through AFIB and took years to recover mentally. I'll shoot for mid 200s on IGF-1 and go from there. 100 to 250 should tell me something.

Also had multiple skin cancers so I'm sensitive to that issue as well. In short the window is closing so I am going for it.

Man, that's all the more reason to use Tesa instead of hgh. It's a near certainty you'll stay within physiological IGF ranges, and frankly its indirect action makes it easier to manage. Just inject whenever. Timing is of little importance, and if your body feels the need to down regulate GH production for some reason, it can still do so.

 

[Benf15harp]

come on man we need details
IM or SQ?
Timing?
1pin/2pins?

 

[readalot]

come on man we need details
IM or SQ?
Timing?
1pin/2pins?

Great back and forth here:

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Thread 'Mixing tesamorelin and hgh'

Thursday at 6:18 PM

I know I might get blasted for even mentioning this….is it plausible to do tesamorelin in the morning, and then hgh before bed? Will the tesamorelin have additional benefits other than triggering hgh release. I have just moved up to 2 iu a day of hgh 5 days a week and that is where I will stay. Also wondering at the age of 53 if tesamorelin will trigger much of an hgh release and if it will help with other stuff other than what hgh does.

• undersc0re

Fyi.

Thanks @Ghoul

 

[RandallFlagg]

Great back and forth here:

U

Thread 'Mixing tesamorelin and hgh'

Thursday at 6:18 PM

I know I might get blasted for even mentioning this….is it plausible to do tesamorelin in the morning, and then hgh before bed? Will the tesamorelin have additional benefits other than triggering hgh release. I have just moved up to 2 iu a day of hgh 5 days a week and that is where I will stay. Also wondering at the age of 53 if tesamorelin will trigger much of an hgh release and if it will help with other stuff other than what hgh does.

• undersc0re

Fyi.

Thanks @Ghoul

Definitely seems to be some higher order discussions randomly occuring recently...(Im sure they've happened before in other threads but hidden under an avalanche of QSC messages...lol)

Thanks for pointing this back and forth out. I keep struggling with Tesa or HGH...and dammit Ghoul, you keep making me regret the 5 kits of HGH I have sitting around.

 

[songsofpyramids]

Definitely seems to be some higher order discussions randomly occuring recently...(Im sure they've happened before in other threads but hidden under an avalanche of QSC messages...lol)

Thanks for pointing this back and forth out. I keep struggling with Tesa or HGH...and dammit Ghoul, you keep making me regret the 5 kits of HGH I have sitting around.

I know ghoul is a fan of Tesa but I don’t believe he’s tried gh. Gh blows ghrp out of the fucking water in almost every way imo. I’ve used all the ghrp/ghrh combinations but haven’t tried anything with dac. Gh, used responsibly, unlike when I was bodybuilding more seriously, is just the god damn greatest chemical I have ever used. It has done more to rejuvenate me to feeling younger than anything I’ve tried or done. Hgh is such a well tolerated drug there is little risk as long as one is responsible and follows the drug guidelines. I would try what you got honestly. Just my 2 cents.

 

[Ghoul]

I know ghoul is a fan of Tesa but I don’t believe he’s tried gh. Gh blows ghrp out of the fucking water in almost every way imo. I’ve used all the ghrp/ghrh combinations but haven’t tried anything with dac. Gh, used responsibly, unlike when I was bodybuilding more seriously, is just the god damn greatest chemical I have ever used. It has done more to rejuvenate me to feeling younger than anything I’ve tried or done. Hgh is such a well tolerated drug there is little risk as long as one is responsible and follows the drug guidelines. I would try what you got honestly. Just my 2 cents.

I was actually going to mention I've gone through several kits of GH before switching.

I went from 2iu to 5iu, experienced benefits and sides, but in terms of the long game, I feel (yes, feels), Tesa is just more sustainable. I get zero sides with Tesa. None, and I think that's because more of the regulatory feedback HPA system is kept in play, vs totally overriding it.

I just don't think about Tesa. It's effortless, GH always reminded me one way or another of its presence.

The benefits are not as pronounced, but they're there and unmistakable.

The discussion did get me looking more into potential risks of Tesa, and there are essentially no clinical cases of bad outcomes using Tesa.

I went into the theoretical, and looked into the consequences of what an excess production of GHRH (a rare genetic disorder ) can cause, and it's an enlarged pituitary. But there's no evidence that's ever happened with long term Tesa users (it's not even suggested or warned against, I made the link myself. I had to really dig to find that issue).

While I can't find it atm, I had even seen research that hypothesized long term Tesa use leads to continued elevated GH release even after cessation, implying a pituitary "rejuvenation" effect may exist.

Anyway, I think of Tesa as the boring Subaru station wagon with an automatic transmission, while GH is the stick shift Porsche. Either can take you safely to your destination, but latter can deliver far more exciting results, a lot quicker, but is also more likely to send you crashing into a ditch if you don't devote your full attention to what you're doing.

 

[songsofpyramids]

I can dig all this. All that matters is how you feel in the end.

Anyway, I think of Tesa as the boring Subaru station wagon with an automatic transmission, while GH is the stick shift Porsche. Either can take you safely to your destination, but latter can deliver far more exciting results, a lot quicker, but is also more likely to send you crashing into a ditch if you don't devote your full attention to what you're doing.

I think this is a pretty apt metaphor honestly. I think the true benefits of hgh really come into play when you’re got everything else locked in. If you’ve got diet, training, hydration, and sleep locked in hard then it is the icing on the cake. If you don’t it’s a waste of money at best or damage at worst.

I just don't think about Tesa. It's effortless, GH always reminded me one way or another of its presence.

I think this part is very true. I constantly have a stop clock running on my cellphone for meal and shot timing, and that can be a bitch. Especially when I’m split dosing on workout days.

I went into the theoretical, and looked into the consequences of what an excess production of GHRH (a rare genetic disorder ) can cause, and it's an enlarged pituitary. But there's no evidence that's ever happened with long term Tesa users (it's not even suggested or warned against, I made the link myself. I had to really dig to find that issue).

While I can't find it atm, I had even seen research that hypothesized long term Tesa use leads to continued elevated GH release even after cessation, implying a pituitary "rejuvenation" effect may exist.

Very interesting stuff. I looked into this stuff awhile back before switching to hgh, and am now so stuck on the Porsche I can’t go back.

I went from 2iu to 5iu

I’ve gone up to 8iu but now stick at 3iu and only split on lift days. Puts my igf around 350 and i feel like a kid again. It makes everything work better. Everything from my eyes to my dick work like they’re 15+ years better and I recover like a kid after sports again. My natural test numbers are pretty good hovering around 700. On hgh, without any test, it pushes me to 1000. I just love everything about hgh myself lol.

Tesa was my favorite of the ghrh/ghrp kingdom. I wouldn’t fuck with any of the others anymore because of the immunogenicity issues honestly. I did love it mixed with ipamorelin especially for the sleep benefits but I think even ipa is problematic in the immunogenicity department.