What is wrong with this generation and drug usage?

[riggspersonal]

I think every one answered it pretty well on here. Combination of many things. But I think it primarily stems from horrible influences on social media like Clavicular, and ease of access becuase of crypto and the internet.

This is not like anything we've seen before. Yes, kids are dumb like always, but in the age of social media, the dumbest of them all (influencers) can reach and influence kids at unprecedented levels.

This is the primary driver of these ideologues, and I think is responsible for significant mental and physical damage to thousands of young men.


View: https://youtu.be/Y3cFW-iFFns?si=3eMUBts9nFmIj3lS

Clav is basically this generations ZYZZ

 

[PrairieSteel]

I agree with everyone here. I think it comes down to instant gratification and social media influencers.

Not sure what you mean by this, but assuming you’re coming at me?

I’m just asking an honest question, because what I’ve been seeing is highly concerning for a harm-reduction board.

Not here to fight or argue with anyone, my man. With all this information, I would assume kids wouldn’t have to be asking these questions, but rather making the right decisions.

Regarding your comment above, I take exception to your second paragraph. People are going to do whatever they are going to do. This is especially true for younger people. I assume you saw a couple of threads where young people (or people you suspect are young) are getting advice/guidance. You mentioned that this is highly concerning for a harm-reduction forum.

My question for you is do you think it would be less harmful to not provide any advice and leave these young folk to their devices? I don't. Any time I've come across a thread like that it is normally full of disclaimers followed by general advice on how to avoid serious health complications. Maybe I am just stumbling across different threads then you.



Anyway, interesting topic and interesting read. Appreciate the thought provoking question. All the best

 

[2ndchancesNK]

I agree with everyone here. I think it comes down to instant gratification and social media influencers.



Regarding your comment above, I take exception to your second paragraph. People are going to do whatever they are going to do. This is especially true for younger people. I assume you saw a couple of threads where young people (or people you suspect are young) are getting advice/guidance. You mentioned that this is highly concerning for a harm-reduction forum.

My question for you is do you think it would be less harmful to not provide any advice and leave these young folk to their devices? I don't. Any time I've come across a thread like that it is normally full of disclaimers followed by general advice on how to avoid serious health complications. Maybe I am just stumbling across different threads then you.



Anyway, interesting topic and interesting read. Appreciate the thought provoking question. All the best

Definitely meant to simply be a thought provoking question, I think I knew the answer to, but have been wanting to make a thread to garner others opinions.

To answer you question, I agree with you. I try and steer these posters away from their idiotic decisions. Generally speaking, I think I’m just a bit shocked by the number of young people willing to even jump into this world. I remember considering AAS when I was around the age of these posters, but ultimately deciding against it. I made horrible decisions in high school and college regarding using recreational drugs 10x worse than PEDs, and the big reason I stayed away from PEDs was that it threw in a whole different element of drug delivery — injections. It’s just wild to me how willing young people are to jab themselves with needles. Again, not saying how a drug is delivered arbitrarily decides how bad it is, but the general connotation with needles is that it equals “junkie behavior”. Obviously this isn’t true, and some of the smartest people I know take gear and do it in a responsible manner. The paradigm shift is again, shocking, but obviously it’s due to mainstream advertising of people taking PEDs. Open up social media apps and people are messing around with vials, slin pins, all kinds of stuff.

 

[marsupial]

Lmao here we go again with “what’s wrong with this generation post”

This generation is perfectly fine. You’re missing the part where prior generations didn’t have access to quality controlled gear and just slammed high doses because that’s what everyone else did. Now there’s so much more understanding of nuances (ie the thing that’s entirely lost on most people on this forum) of everything. Even if these guys are being more neurotic about it (eg looksmaxing), they’re still being safer, for the most part.

Furthermore (just because other people here gave their general thoughts on this generation aside from gear use) we have more personal freedom now compared to before. More food options, more career options, more life path options. In the 50s-70s, if you weren’t fully established by age 25, you were a weirdo. Now, you can be 30, not quite there yet, and no one bats an eye.

A lot of the older generation wondering “what’s wrong with this younger generation” is probably subliminal jealousy that older generations themselves aren’t even fully understanding or admitting to. I would be too, were I in there shoes. In the past 20 years, we made far more developments in the given time and for the given technological era compared to the 200 years prior

 

[Lokey]

Definitely meant to simply be a thought provoking question, I think I knew the answer to, but have been wanting to make a thread to garner others opinions.

To answer you question, I agree with you. I try and steer these posters away from their idiotic decisions. Generally speaking, I think I’m just a bit shocked by the number of young people willing to even jump into this world. I remember considering AAS when I was around the age of these posters, but ultimately deciding against it. I made horrible decisions in high school and college regarding using recreational drugs 10x worse than PEDs, and the big reason I stayed away from PEDs was that it threw in a whole different element of drug delivery — injections. It’s just wild to me how willing young people are to jab themselves with needles. Again, not saying how a drug is delivered arbitrarily decides how bad it is, but the general connotation with needles is that it equals “junkie behavior”. Obviously this isn’t true, and some of the smartest people I know take gear and do it in a responsible manner. The paradigm shift is again, shocking, but obviously it’s due to mainstream advertising of people taking PEDs. Open up social media apps and people are messing around with vials, slin pins, all kinds of stuff.

I think the general public acceptance of GLP-1 agonists has reduced the stigma with injections, it's no longer considered "junkie behavior" opening the door to other possibly more risky things.

 

[urmumsurdad30]

if you weren’t fully established by age 25, you were a weirdo. Now, you can be 30, not quite there yet, and no one bats an eye.

Yeah nah, if you're struggling at age 25+ you're definitely a weirdo still ahahah