What to expect from Deca/Caber

[Motoman22]

Hey guys, I just want some anecdotal opinions on how I'm feeling during my cycle currently. So I'm 23 years old (Don't comment on my age, I know the risks and researched/contemplated for two years before starting my first 500mg test only cycle). I just want some friendly advice and opinions on how I'm feeling and how I should expect to feel in the weeks to come.

So I'm running 500mg Test E for 14 weeks, 400mg Deca for 12 weeks and I just finished my last day of 50mg Tbol for the first 4 weeks. I'm running 12.5mg aromasin EoD, .25mg caber E3D (and running 1000iu HCG during week 9-14), then will have a two week gap for Test E and the remainder of Deca to exit my system before starting Clomid 4 week PCT along with Horny Goat Weed.

So, the Tbol definitely put on some mass and strength, the pumps are decent too and I noticed by the end of the first week. I've gained about 15 lean pounds during the first 4 weeks. My girlfriend could notice pretty quickly and my squat literally went up 40 pounds in a few weeks before the Test even kicked in. I've just started really feeling the Test kick in the past week which has increased my aggression and libido a fair amount. I know in my previous two cycles the test kicked in hard around week 5-6, which I'm fine with because I'm running it until the end of week 14 and I'm just now stopping the Tbol. The aromasin seems to be working fine as usual.

I've only ever taken test E, tbol, aromasin, clomid and nolva. However, I've never taken Deca or Caber. So my question is: from your experiences, when does Deca kick in hard and what does it feel like? Also what should I be feeling from Caber and is .25 E3D enough to combat the prolactin issues Deca brings?

 

[mands]

Hey guys, I just want some anecdotal opinions on how I'm feeling during my cycle currently. So I'm 23 years old (Don't comment on my age, I know the risks and researched/contemplated for two years before starting my first 500mg test only cycle). I just want some friendly advice and opinions on how I'm feeling and how I should expect to feel in the weeks to come.

So I'm running 500mg Test E for 14 weeks, 400mg Deca for 12 weeks and I just finished my last day of 50mg Tbol for the first 4 weeks. I'm running 12.5mg aromasin EoD, .25mg caber E3D (and running 1000iu HCG during week 9-14), then will have a two week gap for Test E and the remainder of Deca to exit my system before starting Clomid 4 week PCT along with Horny Goat Weed.

So, the Tbol definitely put on some mass and strength, the pumps are decent too and I noticed by the end of the first week. I've gained about 15 lean pounds during the first 4 weeks. My girlfriend could notice pretty quickly and my squat literally went up 40 pounds in a few weeks before the Test even kicked in. I've just started really feeling the Test kick in the past week which has increased my aggression and libido a fair amount. I know in my previous two cycles the test kicked in hard around week 5-6, which I'm fine with because I'm running it until the end of week 14 and I'm just now stopping the Tbol. The aromasin seems to be working fine as usual.

I've only ever taken test E, tbol, aromasin, clomid and nolva. However, I've never taken Deca or Caber. So my question is: from your experiences, when does Deca kick in hard and what does it feel like? Also what should I be feeling from Caber and is .25 E3D enough to combat the prolactin issues Deca brings?

You can expect a few things from Caber.

Nausea, dry mouth, less urination and lowered IGF-1 levels to name a few.

What to expect from Deca.

Weight gain, water retention, beast in gym, long recovery time to name a few.

mands

 

[System7]

So I'm 23 years old (Don't comment on my age,

That's a good way to get put on blast. Might not like the answers, but remember you asked the question.

That being said..should hit peak levels around week eight. Leave the caber in the closet. Control your e2 and prolactin won't be an issue. Get mid cycle bloods to confirm. GL

 

[hurricane]

I'll comment on your age. Running 3 compounds at 23 is fukin stupid. And you don't know shit about long term affects. How long have you even been lifting? Pure stupidity. But continue to cycle. You'll be fine. LOL

 

[Motoman22]

You can expect a few things from Caber.

Nausea, dry mouth, less urination and lowered IGF-1 levels to name a few.

What to expect from Deca.

Weight gain, water retention, beast in gym, long recovery time to name a few.

mands

Thank ya sir. Luckily I haven't experienced any of those negative caber sides other than dry mouth.

 

[Motoman22]

That's a good way to get put on blast. Might not like the answers, but remember you asked the question.

That being said..should hit peak levels around week eight. Leave the caber in the closet. Control your e2 and prolactin won't be an issue. Get mid cycle bloods to confirm. GL

Yeah I asked a question about two compounds and what you guys have experienced. Not what you all think about my age and decision to take gear. But thanks for the advice. Is .25mg caber E3D good for when/if I need it?

 

[Motoman22]

I'll comment on your age. Running 3 compounds at 23 is fukin stupid. And you don't know shit about long term affects. How long have you even been lifting? Pure stupidity. But continue to cycle. You'll be fine. LOL

Thanks for the comment. I understand that I'll be on TRT for life eventually, and I'm fine with that. Test levels begin dropping in the late twenties/early thirties and it only gets worse from there. I don't ever plan on living with low T so if I have to cruise for life starting before my early thirties, it really doesn't bother me or make much of a difference because I'd end up doing it regardless. Pinning Test does not bother me whatsoever, either.

I'm not running a ridiculously high dose or compound dense cycle either. It'd be one thing if this was my first cycle or if I was running a gram of Test along with Tren or Anadrol. This cycle is not harsh and I am protecting myself as much as possible.

My first cycle was about a year ago. 500mg test for 10 weeks with 12.5 mg aromasin EoD followed with a 4 week clomid/nolva pct.

My second cycle was about three months after I finished that pct. Tbol 50mg weeks 1-5, Test 500mg weeks 1-5, then upped it to 750mg for weeks 6-12 with the same AI/PCT set up. I learned my lesson running Test that high and I won't be doing it again anytime soon. But the current cycle I'm on, I really don't see a problem with it. Test is moderate dose, Tbol was moderate dose, and Deca is moderate dose. I'm using aromasin, caber and HCG in addition to a clomid pct so it'd be great if you could elaborate instead of just saying its "fukin stupid" and that I don't know shit after researching for two years before deciding to buy my first cycle.

 

[Motoman22]

I'll comment on your age. Running 3 compounds at 23 is fukin stupid. And you don't know shit about long term affects. How long have you even been lifting? Pure stupidity. But continue to cycle. You'll be fine. LOL

BTW I've been lifting for over 5 years naturally. I just hit my one year mark of enhanced lifting since I ran my first T only cycle last March.

 

[hurricane]

Thanks for the comment. I understand that I'll be on TRT for life eventually, and I'm fine with that. Test levels begin dropping in the late twenties/early thirties and it only gets worse from there. I don't ever plan on living with low T so if I have to cruise for life starting before my early thirties, it really doesn't bother me or make much of a difference because I'd end up doing it regardless. Pinning Test does not bother me whatsoever, either.

I'm not running a ridiculously high dose or compound dense cycle either. It'd be one thing if this was my first cycle or if I was running a gram of Test along with Tren or Anadrol. This cycle is not harsh and I am protecting myself as much as possible.

My first cycle was about a year ago. 500mg test for 10 weeks with 12.5 mg aromasin EoD followed with a 4 week clomid/nolva pct.

My second cycle was about three months after I finished that pct. Tbol 50mg weeks 1-5, Test 500mg weeks 1-5, then upped it to 750mg for weeks 6-12 with the same AI/PCT set up. I learned my lesson running Test that high and I won't be doing it again anytime soon. But the current cycle I'm on, I really don't see a problem with it. Test is moderate dose, Tbol was moderate dose, and Deca is moderate dose. I'm using aromasin, caber and HCG in addition to a clomid pct so it'd be great if you could elaborate instead of just saying its "fukin stupid" and that I don't know shit after researching for two years before deciding to buy my first cycle.

I can elaborate. I cycled starting at 28 and thought I was being safe. I'm 39 now and have serious health issues. If your so willing to be on trt by your late twenties you have a lot to learn still.

 

[Motoman22]

I can elaborate. I cycled starting at 28 and thought I was being safe. I'm 39 now and have serious health issues. If your so willing to be on trt by your late twenties you have a lot to learn still.

Alright, I have a few questions for you now.

1. What sort of health issues do you have and how long have you had them?

2. What cycles were you running and did you use PCT/protection and have enough time off in between cycles?

3. I'm not "so willing" to be on trt, I'm just saying that I understand that unless I'm some sort of genetic freak, I will have to be on trt eventually regardless of cycling. But my third question is, what is so wrong with trt? Men with low T are prescribed it by doctors all the time.

 

[mands]

Thank ya sir. Luckily I haven't experienced any of those negative caber sides other than dry mouth.

Have you checked igf-1 levels on caber?

I would seriously think about maybe picking another AAS besides deca if you want to stack something with your testosterone.

I agree you're still pretty young to be using but it's your choice.

Do you plan on competing?

mands

 

[System7]

I'll comment on your age. Running 3 compounds at 23 is fukin stupid. And you don't know shit about long term affects. How long have you even been lifting? Pure stupidity. But continue to cycle. You'll be fine. LOL

Off topic. How you feeling my man?? Haven't asked in a minute.

 

[hurricane]

Alright, I have a few questions for you now.

1. What sort of health issues do you have and how long have you had them?

2. What cycles were you running and did you use PCT/protection and have enough time off in between cycles?

3. I'm not "so willing" to be on trt, I'm just saying that I understand that unless I'm some sort of genetic freak, I will have to be on trt eventually regardless of cycling. But my third question is, what is so wrong with trt? Men with low T are prescribed it by doctors all the time.

I have multiple heart issues. I ran test, tren, DECA, masteron. Never cycled more then 12 weeks and always did pct. Doctors prescribe trt to raise your levels to a healthy level, not supra physiollogically levels like we do. Big difference. Do what you want. Your just young and may regret it one day.

 

[hurricane]

Off topic. How you feeling my man?? Haven't asked in a minute.

Much better bro. I push as hard as I can but stay low weight higher rep. If anything bothers me I lay off. Thanks for asking. Hope all is well with you.

 

[System7]

Much better bro. I push as hard as I can but stay low weight higher rep. If anything bothers me I lay off. Thanks for asking. Hope all is well with you.

Good to hear. On the grind. Balancing work, family and lifting. Rinse wash repeat.

 

[OccupyGeorge]

Hey brother, I'm 26 and have been doing basic cycles for a couple years now.
Biggest mistake I ever made was using Deca in the past and I always used atleast x2 the test (atleast 800mg a week min of test) and I stopped
Deca early and I STILLL had issues for about a full year after cycle.
I'm talking like your girl is spreading her ass infront of you waiting to get fucked and your dick doesn't want to work.
Not only that but the last thing you want when you come off is a scare like Deca dick because that just means your going to be staying off longer until recovery is over, which fuckin blows because you gotta stay off longer then expected ( A LA NO GAINS)

That's my personal experience brother, I'm right as rain now but I wish
I would have listened to people when they were warning me.
Be safe homie