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What's a typical Test C cruise on the high end of dosage?
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1500 FT?
Units please. Typo?
To all: units are your friend. Always include with a measurement.
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This is some very solid advice that most don’t want to listen to when they first start out. Me included. After a year of trying to dial in my “trt”dose with amounts I knew were not necessary but didn’t want to admit, I was over it.
I had no ai left and a single vial of 250mg left with no plans of buying anymore. That’s how sick of it I was. I made it last as long as possible. 25 weeks later at 100mg a week I felt absolutely perfect. To this day that is my trt dose. It was a blessing in disguise lol
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The only group of humans walking around with endogenous 1500 ng/dl TT levels (without drugs). And no you don't want to have that (or maybe some do nowadays).
What is TRT and What is NOT TRT
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/cen.14068 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/cen.13840 The only group of humans walking around above 1200 ng/dL except for those taking exogenous testosterone. The testosterone levels in the genetic males with 5ARD2 and AIS are...
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commercial deployment of RIA methods to accurately chacterize hormone levels did not show up until early 1970s...
24 Hour TT Profiles in Young, Healthy Functional Men [1973-1983]
TLDR (great suggestion by @kazuya_mishima1): Danny and the TOT folks are mistaken to put it politely with respect to pharmacokinetics and dose response of injectable exogeneous testosterone. They act like it’s some mystery how you will respond to injectable testosterone. It really isn’t and...
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Upper reference limit has not appreciably changed (1100 to 1200 ng/dl) taking into consideration correlation between IA and LCMS methods. The idea of the widespread natty stud of yesteryear (1500 ng/dl+) is simply myth.
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Tool to Assess your TT dose response --Percentile Curves
Continuing the dose response thread over here. This would be a great place to crowdsource data. https://forums.t-nation.com/t/tool-to-assess-your-tt-dose-response-percentile-curves/277628 https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/readalot-aka-tareload-introduction.134419973/post-3171563 I...
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200 mg/week (+/- 25 to 50), or what's called "TRT" by some.
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Dr. Grant seems like a genuinely good dude. I was just messing with you. I spent way too much time trying to help Danny over at TNation.
But 400 mg/week Test ester, most definitely androgen abuse for almost everyone (very few people on Earth as shown in the graph I shared will be below mean 1200 ng/dl on that protocol).
You have to remember the TOT hormone and optimization channel is home to the 50 ng/dl free Testosterone club. What could possibly go wrong with a FT of 50 ng/dl? If it feels good it must be good, right?
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My favorite. Danny starts to get a little worried finally at 80 ng/dl FT.
View: https://youtu.be/PD8l6zXvz_A?si=OAgBDzTh-h6-PtoH
Good lord.
View: https://youtu.be/PD8l6zXvz_A?si=OAgBDzTh-h6-PtoH
Good lord.
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Still makes me crack up...
What is TRT and What is NOT TRT
Haha. I was thinking about how I’d try to explain to someone how absurd 16 SD’s is. And you can’t really because those numbers are ridiculous, but I think I’d go with… “Ok, let’s say we have 10 billion people on the planet. Now imagine there’s 10 billion times those 10 billion people. Really...
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Still makes me crack up...
What is TRT and What is NOT TRT
Haha. I was thinking about how I’d try to explain to someone how absurd 16 SD’s is. And you can’t really because those numbers are ridiculous, but I think I’d go with… “Ok, let’s say we have 10 billion people on the planet. Now imagine there’s 10 billion times those 10 billion people. Really...
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Can't stand that dyel expert...
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Hey, once you start charging people the standard goes up in my book. I believe Danny retired from the TRT/TOT wars. I wish him well and hope he stays retired from coaching people on Endocrinology.
Dr. Grant is a good guy, very open minded and knowledgeable x
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