What's with deca?

[Eddie.]

So, why didn't boner pills fix the issue? Because they act differently in high estrogen vs high prolactin environments?

TBH i don't know the exact reason behind this but that would be my guess. I've read something about 40mg tadalafil still couldn't raise the flag.

 

[Dunkirk]

TBH i don't know the exact reason behind this but that would be my guess. I've read something about 40mg tadalafil still couldn't raise the flag.

There was a post I read saying that ed pills help with blood flow which isn't the problem with deca, it's the high prolactin among other things

 

[CraneKraken]

DECA dick is a thing for me so off limits.

Yeah, same here. I'd say it's that way for a lot of us and precisely why most guys don't touch it.

I tolerate most compounds really well. My hair is solid, I don't get gyno and even when I run a gram of test I don't really need an AI -I have taken aromosin in the past though. Yet whenever I try Deca my dick goes down like a bear hibernating for winter, which sucks b/c I love the full look I get on Deca. Just to experiment I am currently taking fairly low dose NPP. I worked my way up to 400mgs per week and that sent my dick back into hibernation mode. This past week I dropped it to 200mgs to go along with 850mgs of Test and 600mgs of Tren E, with an 8iu GH bolus before bed. My hope is that I can stay at 200mgs of the NPP, get a lot of its benefits and still function like normal in the bedroom. I also take Cialis pwo and have Viagra on hand in case of emergency.

The only other compound I've taken where the sides outweigh the benefits is oral Winstrol. I have a full head of hair but as soon as I started Winstrol I started shedding for the first time. I am 45, so thinning is to be expected but the Winny caused clumps of 15-20 hairs to come out when washing and combing it. It scared the shit outta me! Suffice to say, the benefits of Deca + Winny just aren't worth being being an aging but jacked bald guy with a broken schwanzer.

 

[lukiss96]

Deca for me is a weird one. I don't understand how from good gains and good mood, loving healthy food I suddenly mid cycle change in to depressed, bloated, unmotivated bitch who hates life.

Now I understand females and why they feel like they feel during their period. This shit is serious and hormones do play a major role.

Hopefully that did answer the question and somehow gave my perspective and reasoning for avoiding deca.

As for NPP it's totally different, no back up for the claim except my own experience and some other bros would say so too.

 

[CraneKraken]

High test. I'm more energetic like when you're only on test but still not fully the same. High deca low test is less sides and growth is amazing but damn I get sick of feeling lethargic and tired outside of the gym. I've got a one year old so I can't afford to be too lazy to chase her around and play with her

Amen brotha! There is truly nothing better in the world than watching your kids grow and develop. I know it's super cliché and not on topic but they really do grow up fast. You definitely want to be present and in the moment so you can soak it all in as much as possible. There's something to be said for a father and daughter relationship too, especially when they're young and you're their hero. My daughter is 21 and we are still very close. I got full custody of her when she was an infant and never looked back. She's currently studying abroad in Italy and she has her choice of grad schools next year, as she seeks a masters degree in Forensic Psych. I'm just a roof contractor. I swing a hammer everyday and here is my little girl traveling the world and going for her masters degree. I like to think this is because despite not ever having her mother present she had a strong and loving father who helped guide her toward becoming the successful young woman she is today. And, it all sort of starts with rolling around on the floor with them, chasing them around the yard, stacking blocks together, tucking them in at night, etc., and just being solid and strong for them.

*anyway, just penny or two on being a dad. Your "I can't afford to be too lazy to chase her around on the floor and playing with her" comment brought back memories of being a young dad with a toddler.

Godspeed, brotha.

 

[Abidjan]

Voilà comment faire. J'ai pris du Deca seul et avec une très faible dose de testostérone pour maintenir les œstrogènes dans des valeurs normales. Je me suis sentie au mieux de ma forme lors de ces cycles ! Des doses similaires de testostérone et de Deca me détruisent le cerveau et la verge

 

[Abidjan]

En France, sur meso rx, un preparateur propose ce type de cycle :Yorka.
Il préconise clairement une testo Enanthate 300mg/week
Et
Deca 600 mg /week
Avec de très bons résultats et sans deca dick !
A voir

 

[lukiss96]

En France, sur meso rx, un preparateur propose ce type de cycle :Yorka.
Il préconise clairement une testo Enanthate 300mg/week
Et
Deca 600 mg /week
Avec de très bons résultats et sans deca dick !
A voir

Dire une telle chose n'est pas juste. C'est probablement trop compliqué à appliquer à tous. Les différences individuelles sont peut-être trop importantes. Pour ceux qui supportent mal le déca, il est peut-être sage de l'éviter complètement. Désolé pour mon Français moyen, mon collègue européen méso.

 

[xrayphoton13]

Amen brotha! There is truly nothing better in the world than watching your kids grow and develop. I know it's super cliché and not on topic but they really do grow up fast. You definitely want to be present and in the moment so you can soak it all in as much as possible. There's something to be said for a father and daughter relationship too, especially when they're young and you're their hero. My daughter is 21 and we are still very close. I got full custody of her when she was an infant and never looked back. She's currently studying abroad in Italy and she has her choice of grad schools next year, as she seeks a masters degree in Forensic Psych. I'm just a roof contractor. I swing a hammer everyday and here is my little girl traveling the world and going for her masters degree. I like to think this is because despite not ever having her mother present she had a strong and loving father who helped guide her toward becoming the successful young woman she is today. And, it all sort of starts with rolling around on the floor with them, chasing them around the yard, stacking blocks together, tucking them in at night, etc., and just being solid and strong for them.

*anyway, just penny or two on being a dad. Your "I can't afford to be too lazy to chase her around on the floor and playing with her" comment brought back memories of being a young dad with a toddler.

Godspeed, brotha.

This brought a tear to my eye.
Think I need to check my estrogen! Just kidding

Love this man. What an awesome story. So glad you shared it. I'm sure you're super proud of her. I can't wait to see who my daughter grows up to be. But hopefully not too fast. Yesterday she stood up and balanced on her own for 15 seconds before leaning over on me. I still can't believe things are already moving this fast. Because I feel like I just brought her home from the hospital!

 

[laclark89]

I honestly dont get how some guys like and get along well with npp vs decca?

Imo only thing that makes sense is timings.
It’s literally exactly the same compound but different ester.

Mabe test to decca ratio? I always have done 2 parts test 1 part decca. Due to pure bro science lol never wanted to play with it.

Same thing that makes no sense to me that I have heard and read a lot some people feel they get zero joint pain relief from npp but get it from regular decca?

Individual response or placebo?

 

[laclark89]

Amen brotha! There is truly nothing better in the world than watching your kids grow and develop. I know it's super cliché and not on topic but they really do grow up fast. You definitely want to be present and in the moment so you can soak it all in as much as possible. There's something to be said for a father and daughter relationship too, especially when they're young and you're their hero. My daughter is 21 and we are still very close. I got full custody of her when she was an infant and never looked back. She's currently studying abroad in Italy and she has her choice of grad schools next year, as she seeks a masters degree in Forensic Psych. I'm just a roof contractor. I swing a hammer everyday and here is my little girl traveling the world and going for her masters degree. I like to think this is because despite not ever having her mother present she had a strong and loving father who helped guide her toward becoming the successful young woman she is today. And, it all sort of starts with rolling around on the floor with them, chasing them around the yard, stacking blocks together, tucking them in at night, etc., and just being solid and strong for them.

*anyway, just penny or two on being a dad. Your "I can't afford to be too lazy to chase her around on the floor and playing with her" comment brought back memories of being a young dad with a toddler.

Godspeed, brotha.

That’s awesome, thanks for posting that. I can probably learn a thing or 2.

Me and my kids have always been super close. Parks, walks/hikes , family trips, sports and coaching sports for them. Always eating dinner as a family, fishing. I’ve done about everything I can and since then they are both getting close to graduating hs they don’t want much to do with me, and are more into their cell phones and games.

 

[Ateam2023]

I honestly dont get how some guys like and get along well with npp vs decca?

Imo only thing that makes sense is timings.
It’s literally exactly the same compound but different ester.

Mabe test to decca ratio? I always have done 2 parts test 1 part decca. Due to pure bro science lol never wanted to play with it.

Same thing that makes no sense to me that I have heard and read a lot some people feel they get zero joint pain relief from npp but get it from regular decca?

Individual response or placebo?

I'm getting awesome joint relief from npp , I haven't messed with deca (long ester) in years and years, that was a popular cycle when i was in my 20's test/deca,,

 

[Grey Spartan]

Individual response or placebo?

Probably lunatics hopped up on over analysis and lacking the intellectual capacity to know the difference between causation vs correlation.

But I can not rule out individual response. lol