What's your current old man cycle?

[SonhoDourado]

I would think that your Lipids would return to baseline 6 to 8 weeks after the cycle. I'm in a similar boat as you age-wise and risk mitigation-wise. I'm running 225 test / 150 primo and am getting the itch to throw in some pre-workout anavar a few days per week. I'm concerned about lipids so I'm going to test my bloods in 4 to 6 weeks on the primo. If all is ok and I decide to do the anavar i'm going to check bloods while on it. I want to see how bad the HDL lowering is so I can assess future runs (if they are to be). If the lipids are normal 2 months after the cycle I would definitely be pleased with that, but I'm curious as to how bad the impact is while running the compounds.

I bailed on the Anavar after 2 weeks. I have my PCP bloodwork in September and urology labs in October. Was worried I would trash my lipids even with a 6 week run of Var. So I upped the test to 200mg 2x a week as I had plenty of it to spare. So long as both sets of labs are good to go I have exactly 30 50Mg Anavar caps to play with later down the road. I’m definitely interested in running’ primo or mast next summer as like you want to put health at the forefront. You got a solid layout cycle wise! The only negative thing I could attribute to the Var was a solid 10 point increase on blood pressure within those 2 weeks. Overall felt good and was enjoying the workouts and endurance from the var!

 

[RockyP]

I bailed on the Anavar after 2 weeks. I have my PCP bloodwork in September and urology labs in October. Was worried I would trash my lipids even with a 6 week run of Var. So I upped the test to 200mg 2x a week as I had plenty of it to spare. So long as both sets of labs are good to go I have exactly 30 50Mg Anavar caps to play with later down the road. I’m definitely interested in running’ primo or mast next summer as like you want to put health at the forefront. You got a solid layout cycle wise! The only negative thing I could attribute to the Var was a solid 10 point increase on blood pressure within those 2 weeks. Overall felt good and was enjoying the workouts and endurance from the var!

If I do run the Var it would be 10 - 20 mg pre-workout only on leg / back days (train legs and back twice per week, so 4 days total). I would plan to check labs anyway (i know, this is overkill at this dosage and not running it ED - just want to see what the levels are) after 4 weeks. I take my BP every morning after waking up and would monitor this as well.

 

[SonhoDourado]

If I do run the Var it would be 10 - 20 mg pre-workout only on leg / back days (train legs and back twice per week, so 4 days total). I would plan to check labs anyway (i know, this is overkill at this dosage and not running it ED - just want to see what the levels are) after 4 weeks. I take my BP every morning after waking up and would monitor this as well.

Solid plan, I think 50mg is a bit overkill TBH. When I got it it was in May around the time all the sources were drying up and the 10 and 25mg versions were long sold out. Out of all the orals it’s one of the only ones I’ll use besides Tbol. I’d love to try aboms or dbol for pre workout purposes but don’t know if the health risks are worth the pump lol.

Whether overkill or not it’s a good idea to see how your values are impacted by the dosage and duration. I think if you’re north of 40 not only should we be more careful with compound selection/dosage but also evaluating bloodwork before and after religiously. Good on you for for keeping up with blood pressure, I have 3 monitors and check 1-4 times daily.

 

[banjolee]

Solid plan, I think 50mg is a bit overkill TBH. When I got it it was in May around the time all the sources were drying up and the 10 and 25mg versions were long sold out. Out of all the orals it’s one of the only ones I’ll use besides Tbol. I’d love to try aboms or dbol for pre workout purposes but don’t know if the health risks are worth the pump lol.

Whether overkill or not it’s a good idea to see how your values are impacted by the dosage and duration. I think if you’re north of 40 not only should we be more careful with compound selection/dosage but also evaluating bloodwork before and after religiously. Good on you for for keeping up with blood pressure, I have 3 monitors and check 1-4 times daily.

I agree that it's good to ere on the side of caution on this side of 40. I didn't realize anavar was in a shortage as well, but I guess everything is. Fortunately, I have a bunch of 20mg and 25mg left that I bought last summer. I'm on week 1 of taking 10mg twice daily (along with test and NPP). I've done it a few times for 4-6 weeks and it's hit my LDL by 30-50pts, but nothing that isn't too easily corrected. I'm trying it with a statin this time so see if helps. When I first took it, it seemed 10mg was looked down on, but I've always seen decent results.

 

[malfeasance]

My current old man cycle is 120mg of test a week and 3 iu hgh, and, wow, I feel good and look good and it is very easy to stay lean and pretty strong on just this.

 

[RockyP]

My current old man cycle is 120mg of test a week and 3 iu hgh, and, wow, I feel good and look good and it is very easy to stay lean and pretty strong on just this.

I noticed a very big difference going from 2 iu to 3 iu of my pharma / prescribed GH. It was even more pronounced going from 3 to 4. Idk how guys take 10 iu of this stuff. I know they work up over many years but I just can't imagine it.

 

[SonhoDourado]

I agree that it's good to ere on the side of caution on this side of 40. I didn't realize anavar was in a shortage as well, but I guess everything is. Fortunately, I have a bunch of 20mg and 25mg left that I bought last summer. I'm on week 1 of taking 10mg twice daily (along with test and NPP). I've done it a few times for 4-6 weeks and it's hit my LDL by 30-50pts, but nothing that isn't too easily corrected. I'm trying it with a statin this time so see if helps. When I first took it, it seemed 10mg was looked down on, but I've always seen decent results.

I believe as we age is more imperative to use compounds and dosages that allow us to see results yet keep our health parameters in check. Absolutely , when I started at 36 10mg of Anavar 2x a day would seem like a waste, hell I wouldn’t take it if it wasn’t 25mg 2x a day! Back then 500-700mg of test for 16 weeks and 50mg of Anavar for the last 5-6 was my once a year summer cycle. A decade later and I’m more akin to your dosing protocol! My var unfortunately is pharm from Pakistan and in capsules. I thought about buying extra caps and trying to break them down into 15-20mg dosages but I quite sure it just be a big damn mess lol. Curious to see how the statin helps with your 4-6 week run. Crazy to see how much var nukes hdl/ldl in such a short time frame. While I believe it’s definitely one of the safer options out there I’m long removed from the notion that it’s a side effect free oral that can be used at 25-100mg/day. Having a TRT script and getting bloods 3 x a year now have me a bit more particular about what I use. Im likely a bit neurotic but I love to see all my BW parameters in range!

 

[RockyP]

I believe as we age is more imperative to use compounds and dosages that allow us to see results yet keep our health parameters in check. Absolutely , when I started at 36 10mg of Anavar 2x a day would seem like a waste, hell I wouldn’t take it if it wasn’t 25mg 2x a day! Back then 500-700mg of test for 16 weeks and 50mg of Anavar for the last 5-6 was my once a year summer cycle. A decade later and I’m more akin to your dosing protocol! My var unfortunately is pharm from Pakistan and in capsules. I thought about buying extra caps and trying to break them down into 15-20mg dosages but I quite sure it just be a big damn mess lol. Curious to see how the statin helps with your 4-6 week run. Crazy to see how much var nukes hdl/ldl in such a short time frame. While I believe it’s definitely one of the safer options out there I’m long removed from the notion that it’s a side effect free oral that can be used at 25-100mg/day. Having a TRT script and getting bloods 3 x a year now have me a bit more particular about what I use. Im likely a bit neurotic but I love to see all my BW parameters in range!

I get bloodwork every time I try something new / adjust dosages. It’s a bit much but for me it’s the only way.

 

[roofer22]

I've been counting down the days till I can blast again. Been taking care of medical issues not related to gear. Anyway down to the last two weeks, have my baseline bloods scheduled, getting ready to go!

Well I had a good ab workout the other day and blew out a new hernia or an existing one I had fixed years ago. I have an appointment Monday. I'm no dr but it doesn't look good. I expect to be told I need surgery. Theres no good time for this shit but the timing sucks. I was really ramping up to push hard.

Maybe the doc will suprise me with good news.

After a CT scan and seeing the surgeon, I don't have a hernia. It was just a really badly infected belly button. And according to him that's a thing. Got bloods done today. Gonna give myself a couple weeks infection free then hop back on.
300 test c
300 primo
200 npp
4 iu gh
I don't do orals but have anavar from my post surgery protocol. May through it in at the end. I have plenty of glutathione.
All the usual ancillaries. Not sure where my calories are going to land. Goal is to put on weight.
Aiming for 16 weeks as long as bloods cooperate.
May push the gh up a tiny bit.

 

[RockyP]

After a CT scan and seeing the surgeon, I don't have a hernia. It was just a really badly infected belly button. And according to him that's a thing. Got bloods done today. Gonna give myself a couple weeks infection free then hop back on.
300 test c
300 primo
200 npp
4 iu gh
I don't do orals but have anavar from my post surgery protocol. May through it in at the end. I have plenty of glutathione.
All the usual ancillaries. Not sure where my calories are going to land. Goal is to put on weight.
Aiming for 16 weeks as long as bloods cooperate.
May push the gh up a tiny bit.

Looks nice. You like 1:1 test To primo?

 

[roofer22]

Looks nice. You like 1:1 test To primo?

At that dose it works out good. I run on the low end of normal but I feel ok. The NPP is new though.

 

[MissedArmDay66]

300 Test E
125 Primo
100 Deca
50 Mast E
50 Tren E

Split in half every 3.5 days

Also on 2.5iu hgh daily and a variety of other peps / supplements

Currently on week 9 of this and going strong although i did up test to 380 week 5 to bring up E2 a bit. Noticed i was getting a little short with the wife and kids a couple of weeks ago so i added 200mcg of Selank in the am and all is back to normal

 

[roofer22]

Currently on week 9 of this and going strong although i did up test to 380 week 5 to bring up E2 a bit. Noticed i was getting a little short with the wife and kids a couple of weeks ago so i added 200mcg of Selank in the am and all is back to normal

I never tried Selank. I had a kit of semax I tried but didn't even finish since it did nothing for me.

 

[bastxpl]

I never tried Selank. I had a kit of semax I tried but didn't even finish since it did nothing for me.

Interesting. I tried Semax and had to stop, it was WAY too overstimulating, like massive coffee! Selank on the other hand is amazing. I've been using it 500 mcg AM M/W/F sub q. Amazing results IMO.

 

[MissedArmDay66]

I never tried Selank. I had a kit of semax I tried but didn't even finish since it did nothing for me.

I had never used it either but had a kit sitting around someone had sent me for helping out with a group buy so figured i would try it to see if it helped. Sure enough seems to be working for me

 

[roofer22]

After a CT scan and seeing the surgeon, I don't have a hernia. It was just a really badly infected belly button. And according to him that's a thing. Got bloods done today. Gonna give myself a couple weeks infection free then hop back on.
300 test c
300 primo
200 npp
4 iu gh
I don't do orals but have anavar from my post surgery protocol. May through it in at the end. I have plenty of glutathione.
All the usual ancillaries. Not sure where my calories are going to land. Goal is to put on weight.
Aiming for 16 weeks as long as bloods cooperate.
May push the gh up a tiny bit.

About a month in now, feel great. Had a bit of a scare around three weeks.
Starting ast was 36 alt 28. Had a blood test for something else at week three and ast 96 alt 97.
There's no reason for these doses of these compounds to do much of anything. So I went to Chat GPT of course lol. Looks like with my previous medical history and it fits the timeline perfectly, curcumin.
I had started it between blood test which was like three weeks. I started 400 mg glutathione M/W/F. I'd be more aggressive, but I think discontinuing the curcumin will do the job.
I added it into a hematocrit stack but it doesn't seem to agree with me. I'll update after next bloods of course. No GGT because it wasn't me getting the tests.
Other than that I feel great. I feel like a beast even though I'm not. Put on about ten pounds which is expected month one.

 

[Ateam2023]

About a month in now, feel great. Had a bit of a scare around three weeks.
Starting ast was 36 alt 28. Had a blood test for something else at week three and ast 96 alt 97.
There's no reason for these doses of these compounds to do much of anything. So I went to Chat GPT of course lol. Looks like with my previous medical history and it fits the timeline perfectly, curcumin.
I had started it between blood test which was like three weeks. I started 400 mg glutathione M/W/F. I'd be more aggressive, but I think discontinuing the curcumin will do the job.
I added it into a hematocrit stack but it doesn't seem to agree with me. I'll update after next bloods of course. No GGT because it wasn't me getting the tests.
Other than that I feel great. I feel like a beast even though I'm not. Put on about ten pounds which is expected month one.

Curcumin also rsised my liver markers , couldn't figure it out why my numbers were climbing(trt doses) no orals, etc , but everything makes sense eventually

 

[roofer22]

Curcumin also rsised my liver markers , couldn't figure it out why my numbers were climbing(trt doses) no orals, etc , but everything makes sense eventually

I had no idea. It just reinforces we have to watch EVERYTHING we put in our bodies.

 

[sinistral]

Curcumin also rsised my liver markers , couldn't figure it out why my numbers were climbing(trt doses) no orals, etc , but everything makes sense eventually

Learn something new every day. I didn't understand why my liver markers were elevated in my last bloods and just chalked it up to possibly something I ate. I had started curcumin a couple months prior though.

 

[2lanes]

Selank on the other hand is amazing. I've been using it 500 mcg AM M/W/F sub q. Amazing results IMO.

What do you get from it?