When wil you call it quits?

Can you fill me in on your Niacin/Turmeric/Cinnamon regime? How does that help?

My Doc suggested I take cinnamon pills (1000mg x twice daily) to lower blood sugar naturally , all I know is it works . Fasting blood sugars under 100 now , I was 115-118 before in the morning testing .

The turmeric/curcumin (500mg x twice daily) is for inflammation (tennis elbow) and general well being .

The niacin (500mg daily) helps with blood lipids , but you gotta use full-flush niacin and that takes some getting used to :mad:. In the beginning its like being sunburned every morning for the first hour .

There you go , this turned my bloodtest around , no doubt . But this works for me , cant say it will for everyone . Goodluck . ~Ogh :D
 
Just curious of everyone’s opinion. Either you have a number or an idea when you will quit blasting and just stick with prescribed trt,eating right and working out?

I think the worst part will be the mental part of knowing there’s no more of that “on” feeling. So is it an age number you have in mind? Or a physique goal you want to obtain?
Its called getting old. Cycles i ran 20 years ago would kill me. Im just in a different stage in life now.
 
Ya. As I mentioned I’m 56 and just started ...

I got on gear in the 1980"s , quit at 28 then got back on TRT at 52 and started cycling again at 53 when I rejoined Meso . Even at 53 the muscle gains was dramatic (and addicting)

I just turned 59 yesterday and feel I got a couple more lite cycles left , but no more gram/wk or Tren . That parts over . I like where Im at now...~Ogh :D
 
Ya. I’m not planning on more than a couple of cycles and then trt dose at 200mg a week. No stacks

I’m in great shape and feel great so I’ll keep it basic
 
Ya. I’m not planning on more than a couple of cycles and then trt dose at 200mg a week. No stacks

I’m in great shape and feel great so I’ll keep it basic

You sound pretty level-headed , thats a good thing in this game where self-restrain is needed....;) Good luck in your future !
 
I got on gear in the 1980"s , quit at 28 then got back on TRT at 52 and started cycling again at 53 when I rejoined Meso . Even at 53 the muscle gains was dramatic (and addicting)

I just turned 59 yesterday and feel I got a couple more lite cycles left , but no more gram/wk or Tren . That parts over . I like where Im at now...~Ogh :D

Happy belated birthday, you marvelous beast.
 
I got on gear in the 1980"s , quit at 28 then got back on TRT at 52 and started cycling again at 53 when I rejoined Meso . Even at 53 the muscle gains was dramatic (and addicting)

I just turned 59 yesterday and feel I got a couple more lite cycles left , but no more gram/wk or Tren . That parts over . I like where Im at now...~Ogh :D
Happy badass bday you funny bastard! I soon will turn 55 and still faaaaar from dead :)

Making the most of life is the godly way.
 
Not quitting now, but trying to downsize and refine more than train heavy to grow.

I am 38, but been doing this about 23 yrs now and hitting gear half my life. I have several friends who are in their 50's and 60's and they've been a great example for me of how to adjust training and gear as I get further along. I'm not old, but it's what I would call "gym old", where little aches and pains are a regular thing.

What I've found with just TRT and usually just a low to moderate dose of 1 other compound added in, is that size is easily kept. Even when I'm starving I can jump on the scale and weigh 230, fairly lean at 5'9.

So the goal is to slowly drop weight and overall mass and try to be closer to the 200lb mark, which seems impossible at this point unless I stopped lifting altogether and only did cardio. That isn't gonna happen.

So gear wise? Not much needed at all, but I still like that edge! I have changes my training a lot this past year or so, i do things I never would have done in the past such as HIT rounds of cardio before each set of weights, battle ropes, kettlebell swings, jumping rope, all of these for "rounds of 1-2 minites and THEN hit the set of weights.

I have to earn each set by performing the HIT cardio round first. It forces me to do cardio and often abs since I count 1 min of steady ab work as HIT cardio also. I go back and forth with different HIT cardio techniques and then a weight set.

That feeling of "i didn't do enough in the gym" goes away quick when combining HIT cardio rounds with each set. I can still get relatively heavy even after the HIT cardio rounds.

Figured after a few weeks of this that scale would show a weight shift. Nope!!! Still 230 as of today. So at this point it's going to be all abt lowering cals gradually into something I can practice and live with over time. Yoga, swimming, all of that is not to be excluded during my new goal of being a leaner and more downsized version of myself.

Honestly I could probably hold plenty of size with just TRT alone. It's made me to back to placing more emphasis on my training and diet than worrying abt how the training proceeds the gear. I've reversed that thought process.

Bottom line is overall health at this point. Most early demises of bodybuilders are from the guys that never downsized beyond abt 40-50yrs of age and we have seen countless examples of old school dudes still banging weights while others suffered health issues.

I believe 100% it's overall size as we age that's the culprit that takes ppl out. Joints, tendons, all of the connective tissues and cardio need to be #1.

No more cycles over 2 compounds at a time and training has gradually gone to more volune, shorts rest periods, and weights I can more easily control. I'm starting this now, not when I'm 50+ yrs old. There is more to life and I'm involved in more than just gym

I've enjoyed hiking a lot, mountain biking, pretty much the modern day Dorian Yates approach minus getting stoned
 
Not quitting now, but trying to downsize and refine more than train heavy to grow.

I am 38, but been doing this about 23 yrs now and hitting gear half my life. I have several friends who are in their 50's and 60's and they've been a great example for me of how to adjust training and gear as I get further along. I'm not old, but it's what I would call "gym old", where little aches and pains are a regular thing.

What I've found with just TRT and usually just a low to moderate dose of 1 other compound added in, is that size is easily kept. Even when I'm starving I can jump on the scale and weigh 230, fairly lean at 5'9.

So the goal is to slowly drop weight and overall mass and try to be closer to the 200lb mark, which seems impossible at this point unless I stopped lifting altogether and only did cardio. That isn't gonna happen.

So gear wise? Not much needed at all, but I still like that edge! I have changes my training a lot this past year or so, i do things I never would have done in the past such as HIT rounds of cardio before each set of weights, battle ropes, kettlebell swings, jumping rope, all of these for "rounds of 1-2 minites and THEN hit the set of weights.

I have to earn each set by performing the HIT cardio round first. It forces me to do cardio and often abs since I count 1 min of steady ab work as HIT cardio also. I go back and forth with different HIT cardio techniques and then a weight set.

That feeling of "i didn't do enough in the gym" goes away quick when combining HIT cardio rounds with each set. I can still get relatively heavy even after the HIT cardio rounds.

Figured after a few weeks of this that scale would show a weight shift. Nope!!! Still 230 as of today. So at this point it's going to be all abt lowering cals gradually into something I can practice and live with over time. Yoga, swimming, all of that is not to be excluded during my new goal of being a leaner and more downsized version of myself.

Honestly I could probably hold plenty of size with just TRT alone. It's made me to back to placing more emphasis on my training and diet than worrying abt how the training proceeds the gear. I've reversed that thought process.

Bottom line is overall health at this point. Most early demises of bodybuilders are from the guys that never downsized beyond abt 40-50yrs of age and we have seen countless examples of old school dudes still banging weights while others suffered health issues.

I believe 100% it's overall size as we age that's the culprit that takes ppl out. Joints, tendons, all of the connective tissues and cardio need to be #1.

No more cycles over 2 compounds at a time and training has gradually gone to more volune, shorts rest periods, and weights I can more easily control. I'm starting this now, not when I'm 50+ yrs old. There is more to life and I'm involved in more than just gym

I've enjoyed hiking a lot, mountain biking, pretty much the modern day Dorian Yates approach minus getting stoned

Your gonna be in great shape thru your 50"s Demon , you've already been at this a while , you wont have to re-build yourself like I did later in life . Stay in shape & goodluck in your future ~Ogh :D
 
Your gonna be in great shape thru your 50"s Demon , you've already been at this a while , you wont have to re-build yourself like I did later in life . Stay in shape & goodluck in your future ~Ogh :D

Great advice here. I took breaks occasionally but lifted almost continuously throughout my life. It’s much easier to keep it as we age than to try and build it once your old
 
Thanks man, how's life?

Lifes very good , they say some people (but not all) get happier as they age and Im one . I was pretty rebellious a few years back but Ive mellowed in a good way . I do dread 60 (next year) but I will handle it the same way I did 40-50-55 . With a smile Im still here...:) :cool:
 
Lifes very good , they say some people (but not all) get happier as they age and Im one . I was pretty rebellious a few years back but Ive mellowed in a good way . I do dread 60 (next year) but I will handle it the same way I did 40-50-55 . With a smile Im still here...:) :cool:
Dude, how old were you on the photo of the traps you posted in the other thread? Christ!!!
 
Dude, how old were you on the photo of the traps you posted in the other thread? Christ!!!

I think 55 . Maybe the best shape in my life . Im aiming to be in top shape by 60 although Im a realist and realize I can only be as good as my age will allow....Ive still never touched GH but thats soon gonna change . Im glad I waited this long...
 
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