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When You Start Feeling the Trenbolone

kyrios said:
This is a surprisingly common sentiment, which as you will see is clearly misguided.

To those casting doubt on the fact that it is possible to "feel" trenbolone come on within an hour or less, consider the tren cough.

I have not experienced it yet, but from what I have gathered so far, this is something that can occur within seconds to minutes of the trenbolone entering the muscle you just pinned.

While it mostly considered a mystery, we can at least conclude with certainty that it is possible for trenbolone to reach sufficient systemic concentrations to immediately induce enzymatic activity in distal organ systems.

How can you simultaneously recognize that the lungs can be affected nearly instantly while thinking the brain is somehow exempted? Don't you realize that this is a question of sensitivity, which is so strongly affected by individual variability?

I'm now a few pins in and nearing steady-state concentrations, and a consistent experience that I have noted thus far is a slight ringing sensation in my ears which sets on, you guessed it, within seconds of me pushing down on the plunger.
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That's a bad pin effect and you can get that from pinning any steroid, not just tren although yes, it is more commonly seen with tren.

I thought you were referring to mass/strength benefits and that overall well being feeling.

For me, tren ace, I start feeling the 'positive' effects about 1.5 to 2 weeks in. The negative side effects start to kick in around week 4 and those start to become unbearable around week 6.
 
intense_bulldoze said:
That's a bad pin effect and you can get that from pinning any steroid, not just tren although yes, it is more commonly seen with tren.

I thought you were referring to mass/strength benefits and that overall well being feeling.

For me, tren ace, I start feeling the 'positive' effects about 1.5 to 2 weeks in. The negative side effects start to kick in around week 4 and those start to become unbearable around week 6.
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You mean the ringing? Interesting. I haven't had that with any other gear, and so far I've had it every single shot with tren.

What kinds of dosages are/were you on?
 
kyrios said:
This is a surprisingly common sentiment, which as you will see is clearly misguided.

To those casting doubt on the fact that it is possible to "feel" trenbolone come on within an hour or less, consider the tren cough.

I have not experienced it yet, but from what I have gathered so far, this is something that can occur within seconds to minutes of the trenbolone entering the muscle you just pinned.

While it mostly considered a mystery, we can at least conclude with certainty that it is possible for trenbolone to reach sufficient systemic concentrations to immediately induce enzymatic activity in distal organ systems.

How can you simultaneously recognize that the lungs can be affected nearly instantly while thinking the brain is somehow exempted? Don't you realize that this is a question of sensitivity, which is so strongly affected by individual variability?

I'm now a few pins in and nearing steady-state concentrations, and a consistent experience that I have noted thus far is a slight ringing sensation in my ears which sets on, you guessed it, within seconds of me pushing down on the plunger.
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If you inject oil into a blood vessel and oil ends up in your lungs as a result, you cough. Is this the cause of tren cough? I dunno. It's one of the proposed mechanisms, and one that can explain why you have a near-immediate effect. We know it can happen with oil based solutions in general - you can find plenty of case reports of it happening. But if that is the cause of tren cough, then there's absolutely no reason to suspect that it has any predictive power on how fast the effects of tren in general will set in.
 
hexagonal said:
If you inject oil into a blood vessel and oil ends up in your lungs as a result, you cough. Is this the cause of tren cough? I dunno. It's one of the proposed mechanisms, and one that can explain why you have a near-immediate effect. We know it can happen with oil based solutions in general - you can find plenty of case reports of it happening. But if that is the cause of tren cough, then there's absolutely no reason to suspect that it has any predictive power on how fast the effects of tren in general will set in.
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It is my understanding that the coughing fit is a much more common experience with trenbolone than with any other steroids, hence the name "tren cough".

If we accept this assumption, then we can conclude that this has little to do with injecting into a blood vessel, unless we also assume that we are more likely to inject tren into one than we are with any other steroid because we use some kind of different injection technique, which is obviously not the case.

The tren cough is thus among one of the peculiar effects of tren, and evidence it can produce strong effects in distal targets almost immediately.

Thus, even if we disregard the effects on the brain completely and only consider the tren cough, we can conclude that the shortest timescales at which trenbolone can be felt is, in principle, not long after the needle enters the body.

I should clarify what I had in mind with the title of the thread: I meant any effects at all, not only how quickly you notice the effects on strength or body composition but really any way in which you notice trenbolone affecting your overall life experience.

Personally, I'm most interested in the mental effects since it is unique among all steroids in producing them with such force, but you and everyone else are welcome to share any effects that come to mind as well as their timescales.

It would be interesting to see more talk about dosages and maybe even personal "sweet spots".
 
kyrios said:
It is my understanding that the coughing fit is a much more common experience with trenbolone than with any other steroids, hence the name "tren cough".

If we accept this assumption, then we can conclude that this has little to do with injecting into a blood vessel, unless we also assume that we are more likely to inject tren into one than we are with any other steroid because we use some kind of different injection technique, which is obviously not the case.

The tren cough is thus among one of the peculiar effects of tren, and evidence it can produce strong effects in distal targets almost immediately.

Thus, even if we disregard the effects on the brain completely and only consider the tren cough, we can conclude that the shortest timescales at which trenbolone can be felt is, in principle, not long after the needle enters the body.

I should clarify what I had in mind with the title of the thread: I meant any effects at all, not only how quickly you notice the effects on strength or body composition but really any way in which you notice trenbolone affecting your overall life experience.

Personally, I'm most interested in the mental effects since it is unique among all steroids in producing them with such force, but you and everyone else are welcome to share any effects that come to mind as well as their timescales.

It would be interesting to see more talk about dosages and maybe even personal "sweet spots".
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I wouldn't automatically assume anything based on a colloquial name, personally. From people I know personally who have experienced a cough after injecting oils, neither got it from tren.

From an opposite perspective, we know that mental effects from basically all other endogenous hormones take time to come into effect, and most people report it taking a week or two to feel them from tren. Outside of that, the fastest I had heard until this post was the next day.

But mental impact is one of the areas where humans are most vulnerable to the placebo effect. If you expect tren to effect you mentally, you very well might be mentally affected... even if it turned out it was just straight MCT oil.
 
Don’t feel anything negative or positive aside from trensomnia first 2-3 days of blast, happens every time I add tren in again and that’s it. Last blast at the 12 week mark of 1400 tren ace a week I was insanely tired all the time no matter what. Couldn’t do anything but sleep and go to the gym. Would go over to girls houses and fall asleep before having sex I was so tired. Lowest I’ve ran tren was 700 a week, no tiredness at all on that dose.
 
hexagonal said:
I wouldn't automatically assume anything based on a colloquial name, personally. From people I know personally who have experienced a cough after injecting oils, neither got it from tren.

From an opposite perspective, we know that mental effects from basically all other endogenous hormones take time to come into effect, and most people report it taking a week or two to feel them from tren. Outside of that, the fastest I had heard until this post was the next day.

But mental impact is one of the areas where humans are most vulnerable to the placebo effect. If you expect tren to effect you mentally, you very well might be mentally affected... even if it turned out it was just straight MCT oil.
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You are talking to chatgpt bro.

And you are correct about tren caught being a bad example for a correlation on time onset of mental effects.
 
kyrios said:
I want to throw my hat into ring regarding the question "when do you start to 'feel' like you are on trenbolone?", especially since most of the discussion I found online consisted of answers in the 1-2 week range. I invite you to share your own experience, and I'm sure that we're all going to come out of this with a deeper appreciation of how just how much individual variability there is in the human body's response to AAS. Perhaps some of you will also want to experiment with lower doses of tren than are usually recommended in these parts of the web.

As far as I am concerned, the answer is "within about an hour".

After passing the citizenship test, I have finally taken up residence in Trenbolonia yesterday evening. The ceremony consisted of 10mg of tren ace. I'm thinking of keeping it at 70mg/week for a few weeks. This is on top of 150mg test-e, 75mg primo for E2 control, and 20-50mg daily anavar depending on how hard I'm pushing it in the gym that day.

On the way to the gym, I found myself undressing the women around me in the subway with my mind's eye. I had to consciously override the direction my mind was taking after realizing that I was about to get visibly erect in a crowded area. I'm 28 now, and the last time this kind of scenario unfolded must have been when I was 14 or 15. All the while I am experiencing a slight but noticeable increase in my general well-being. Oh, it's just placebo! I hear some of you thinking at this point, and indeed this was also a thought that crossed my mind.

The workout was great. I hit some PRs. The "don't get a boner, don't get a boner" mantra returned a few minutes after I started doing cardio on the recumbent bike from which I occasionally threw a glance at the women passing by. This time it wasn't as successful, but the gym was nearly empty at that point so I didn't care, and I regained my composure soon after anyway. If that doesn't change your mind regarding a possible placebo effect, then surely will the fact that my shirt was absolutely drenched in sweat, even though I maintained the same intensity that I usually do (1 hour at zone 2). Definitely double, possible triple the usual amount of sweat. Not only that, but it had a most unusual smell. "Wet dog" comes to mind. Quite unpleasant, though I hear that it supposedly drives women nuts. More research is needed.

I came home, took a shower, and when I emerged I discovered that my entire shoe box apartment assumed the smell of that shirt. I threw it in the washing machine and went to bed. When I woke up, it was in a puddle of sweat. This time the smell wasn't so overwhelming, though the tren from that first injection was already past its peak. Once I reach steady state concentrations, I'll probably have to change the bed sheets every day.

This is an extremely potent drug.
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Was using at 30 mg a week and holy cannoli. Took it out for a while got bloods pulled and now rocking and rolling. Just started pushing it much higher than that lol. Feeling good, I feel it within a couple hours or so. Start to think differently for sure. For me it’s more of a I’m gonna tell you how it is no matter if it hurts your feelings mindset. I lose a good bit of empathy for others except my old lady.
 
kyrios said:
This is a surprisingly common sentiment, which as you will see is clearly misguided.

To those casting doubt on the fact that it is possible to "feel" trenbolone come on within an hour or less, consider the tren cough.

I have not experienced it yet, but from what I have gathered so far, this is something that can occur within seconds to minutes of the trenbolone entering the muscle you just pinned.

While it mostly considered a mystery, we can at least conclude with certainty that it is possible for trenbolone to reach sufficient systemic concentrations to immediately induce enzymatic activity in distal organ systems.

How can you simultaneously recognize that the lungs can be affected nearly instantly while thinking the brain is somehow exempted? Don't you realize that this is a question of sensitivity, which is so strongly affected by individual variability?

I'm now a few pins in and nearing steady-state concentrations, and a consistent experience that I have noted thus far is a slight ringing sensation in my ears which sets on, you guessed it, within seconds of me pushing down on the plunger.
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Good point on the tren cough.
I can certainly feel the effects of Tren Acetate or Trestolone Acetate hours after pinning. I also have a strong response to gear in general.

The guys claiming this to be false are probably just frustarted from their lack of response to gear, Cause I truly believe some guys dont feel zip. I certainly do though
 
Jin23 said:
You are talking to chatgpt bro.
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Wow, "fake natty" accusations levied at my own words!

If you mean to obliquely accuse me of using LLMs to write any of my posts in this thread, then I can assure you that this is not the case.

On the bright side, given your proud public display of disbelief that anyone can experience drugs differently from you, I'm sure that "being an AI" is a false accusation you're never going to be confronted with in your life.
 
kyrios said:
On the bright side, given your proud public display of disbelief that anyone can experience drugs differently from you, I'm sure that "being an AI" is a false accusation you're never going to be confronted with in your life.
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Ah, talking to unstable noobs injecting androgens in their bodies, always a fun experience ... Yes, you are using Ai. And no, you haven't a clue what you're talking about.

For the second part of your nonsense reply, look at my first post in this thread, I firmly advocated and defended your position. I even asked you a question, to which you gave no reply.

You are all over the place, no idea about what my stance is. I agree that androgens onset of action can be perceived quickly (within hours, depending on dose and favourable individual pharmacokinetics), especially by people who have good interoception and have something functionally similar to low neurotransmitter status, which makes lower dosages of more or less everything have a more pronounced effect. Not to mention varying sensitivities to AR signaling in the CNS. However, I mostly disprove your citing tren caught as supporting evidence for your onset of action theory. It also exposes your inexperience and lack of education — something evident to everyone but you.

And no, I am not arguing with you any further.
 
Jin23 said:
Ah, talking to unstable noobs injecting androgens in their bodies, always a fun experience ... Yes, you are using Ai. And no, you haven't a clue what you're talking about.

For the second part of your nonsense reply, look at my first post in this thread, I firmly advocated and defended your position. I even asked you a question, to which you gave no reply.

You are all over the place, no idea about what my stance is. I agree that androgens onset of action can be perceived quickly (within hours, depending on dose and favourable individual pharmacokinetics), especially by people who have good interoception and have something functionally similar to low neurotransmitter status, which makes lower dosages of more or less everything have a more pronounced effect. Not to mention varying sensitivities to AR signaling in the CNS. However, I mostly disprove your citing tren caught as supporting evidence for your onset of action theory. It also exposes your inexperience and lack of education — something evident to everyone but you.

And no, I am not arguing with you any further.
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Though wrong and embarrassingly misguided, I take your continued insistence that I must be using AI in my replies as a compliment.

Since you have added nothing of substance to support your disagreement except for spicing up your word salad with various ad hominems, perhaps you would do well to prompt your favourite AI with the tren cough argument so that it can explain it to you in a way that is more appropriate for your level of intellectual development.
 
I'll notice side effects the first or second day. It's usually fully kicked in after a week. I don't really get any mood changes from it ...just insomnia and it makes me dry/flat as hell. I'm experimenting with lower doses so that I can actually sleep and retain fullness
 
sneak007 said:
I'll notice side effects the first or second day. It's usually fully kicked in after a week. I don't really get any mood changes from it ...just insomnia and it makes me dry/flat as hell. I'm experimenting with lower doses so that I can actually sleep and retain fullness
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What ester?

Acetate kicks in fairly fast, for me 3-4 days and less. When experimenting with E i never really notice anything despite pinning daily. Both times 100mg.
 
I never feel like I'm "on tren". Currently 400mg tren e. Feels like nothing. I get occasional night sweats but no insomnia. I don't notice anything mentally if that's what you mean. No strange or different thoughts. No changes in mood or libido. No "undressing a woman in my mind" within an hour of injection like OP mentioned. I do get hornier on deca but tren is completely neutral to me. I get on edge and want to snap at everyone on masteron. But I just can't relate to all these crazy tren stories and I'm glad bc I like what tren does for strength and muscle retention.

I've used GA and QSC tren a and GA tren e. All seem to always test well and color is right so I don't think it's under dosed or bunk. One thing I will say is that I notice with the Tren e the vial I'm using seems to get darker as the weeks go by. I compare it to a fresh vial of tren e and can see a difference. I don't notice this with tren a. Not sure if it's something with tren e or GA since I've never used another brand
 
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I usually use no less than 100mg acetate per injection I can “feel” some effects the next day maybe placebo who knows but it’s a familiar feeling. After 2-3 weeks is in full force sweating like a pig wanna fuck whatever woman I see etc
 
AlwaysHungry said:
I usually use no less than 100mg acetate per injection I can “feel” some effects the next day maybe placebo who knows but it’s a familiar feeling. After 2-3 weeks is in full force sweating like a pig wanna fuck whatever woman I see etc
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How often do you inject ace? I've done it daily up to 50mg. With enanthate I've stuck with 2x weekly
 
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