where have the real men gone?

[No Gods No Masters]

Gender confusion probably started when more women were graduating college than men. Entering in the job market in mass.

Western man has been replaced, either by immigrants willing to do back breaking labor or desk jobs that can be done by women. Leaving no place for the average man to feel like he's needed.

That's why he's gonna have to reach down deep, put some thought into the environment he finds himself and realize it's sort of like the cowboys that were made obsolete when trains put a stop to cattle drives. He's gonna have to detach from typical manliness and move on with his life. That doesn't mean he needs to stick his dick in some guys ass, but that probably means he's gonna be doing a lot more beating off.

 

[FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR]

agree for the most part about woman, but the fact you refer to yourself as a "master", if your serious, shows your actually kind of a bitch. anyone who tries so hard to project their "dominance" aka BDSM shit, IMO is a bitch.

Based on the interactions we have on this thread I assume your fragile, thin skinned, weak and insecure, but I don't disagree about women for the most part. You try hard to reject traditional masculinity id guess because it offends you because it does't fit your, which says something.

I agree women should eat cum but thats not something a normal person would actively think about and tell to other dudes, again, your kind of a try hard but the part about women I pretty much agree

Cmon man i m kidding.. i m not into bdsm shit.. master dungeon and dragons, etc... and i dont refuse your gayish masculine idea of man.. you took too much seriosuly what i was saying.. i was just kidding...

Anyway, im agree with sone other guys ... a real man is one that faces his fears, that works hard for something, that fights the fuckin challenges of life.. that doesnt use physical strenght to win over an argument.. someone that has a sense of honor and doesnt betray like a fuckin snake, in life in business in love in friendship...

I saw Real men that worked hard for their family, since young age... my uncle worked as a builder since he was 8 years old.. no joke.. he used to buy red meat for his mom that was anemic.. my mom’s family was poor... that uncle, paid my mother’s studies to become a doctor... he was never drunk.. never screamed.. he had no reasons to.. he was wise... humble... and generous... he taught me some stuff and everytime he pretended i did everything on my own... and it wasnt true... he wasnt muscular.. he had no beard... he had diabetes and other diseases.. and he neglected himself for years... so he had big health issues, like a ictus... and it was hard for him to even walk... but he did... in his 75 he learned how to use a smartphone too.. since i gave him one... he passed away at 83 last month...
He was a real man... and we all loved him...

 

[rfan2020]

Cmon man i m kidding.. i m not into bdsm shit.. master dungeon and dragons, etc... and i dont refuse your gayish masculine idea of man.. you took too much seriosuly what i was saying.. i was just kidding...

Anyway, im agree with sone other guys ... a real man is one that faces his fears, that works hard for something, that fights the fuckin challenges of life.. that doesnt use physical strenght to win over an argument.. someone that has a sense of honor and doesnt betray like a fuckin snake, in life in business in love in friendship...

I saw Real men that worked hard for their family, since young age... my uncle worked as a builder since he was 8 years old.. no joke.. he used to buy red meat for his mom that was anemic.. my mom’s family was poor... that uncle, paid my mother’s studies to become a doctor... he was never drunk.. never screamed.. he had no reasons to.. he was wise... humble... and generous... he taught me some stuff and everytime he pretended i did everything on my own... and it wasnt true... he wasnt muscular.. he had no beard... he had diabetes and other diseases.. and he neglected himself for years... so he had big health issues, like a ictus... and it was hard for him to even walk... but he did... in his 75 he learned how to use a smartphone too.. since i gave him one... he passed away at 83 last month...
He was a real man... and we all loved him...

fair enough, I agree on most points. just have been bothered lately, something about seeing grown ass men wearing stupid masks begging for a vaccine and scolding those who aren't weak cowards,,,has triggered my disgust mechanism. our grandfathers would spit at these modern day male pussies being weak minded sheep who jackoff and say things like "were all in this together" "stay home save lives" lol

 

[malfeasance]

fair enough, I agree on most points. just have been bothered lately, something about seeing grown ass men wearing stupid masks begging for a vaccine and scolding those who aren't weak cowards,,,has triggered my disgust mechanism. our grandfathers would spit at these modern day male pussies being weak minded sheep who jackoff and say things like "were all in this together" "stay home save lives" lol

QFT

 

[flenser]

I know this is the wrong crowd for this, but I couldn't help myself. This lecture was banned by Eaton College and Knowland fired as a result. The lecture starts out a little slow, but it does get better.

 

[No Gods No Masters]

I know this is the wrong crowd for this, but I couldn't help myself. This lecture was banned by Eaton College and Knowland fired as a result. The lecture starts out a little slow, but it does get better.

Protection isn't needed, we have a police state for that.

So while there will be a few strong males to enforce the law that's all that's needed. And of course be available at every women's request to incarcerate any man she deems undesirable.

Egalitarianism in the hunter gather lifestyle, women and men working together. Raised by our mothers, it would be unnatural to hate your mother and so I think our ancestors before the Neolithic period probably shared the burden of work to survive without complication and found the roles that best suited their strengths.

With modern civilization especially today, it doesn't matter. Traditional male roles aren't needed. A women can pull a gun out and shoot you dead, perhaps a little slower, but she'll get the job done.

This idea of the great protector is something I saw come up again and again when I used to follow the alt-right movement, the problem is women simply don't want you and if that's the case, you let them deal with the problem themselves.

 

[malfeasance]

How many young, single women carry guns? LOL!

 

[Human_backhoe]

How many young, single women carry guns? LOL!

A lot of young woman I know are armed to the fucking teeth. I have seen this trend only rise in 2020. I think it might have something to do with the realization that a lot of males are worth shit anymore.

 

[BigDaddyV]

I went in obsessed with getting out. Not to get rich, it was a slow grind, it was demoralizing, I put up with endless assholes.

I feel sorry for those that have to work, putting on a face like nothing bothers them, no matter how much it eats at them. What's even sadder are people that actually say they love their job, they actually love doing mundane tasks over and over again for years, to be this bereft of imagination is terrifying.

It's an assault on the senses being in a place with a bunch of worker bees performing jobs that no wild animal would ever perform without being chained and muzzled.

The downfall of man was when he civilized, the minute he put plow to ground he was stuck in one spot laboring and all the stress that comes with being locked to that life, setting man down the road of misery, depression and suicide. Perhaps the humans that can put up with this sort of indignity are all that are left, those that couldn't have been bred out of the gene pool like a factory farm chicken waiting to have his beak seared off, we're all just homogenized for efficiency and maximum output.

I enjoy working and I have a solid imagination. I know you think you know everything but you don’t.
You’re just a downer bro.

 

[FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR]

I enjoy working and I have a solid imagination. I know you think you know everything but you don’t.
You’re just a downer bro.

WARNING: long bory post.. skip to the end and watch the vid because its cool


i feel this guy, and i think that, people like him
and me, see the world in his objectivity...as already stated i dont wanna have children because this world is plenty of cruelty and life isnt asked by any one... i m not afraid of death... dont give a fuck about it.. me too dont wanna rely anymore into classic jobs.. so or i ll go to prison or i ll be killed o i ll have to kill myself... and i m ok with that... dont fuckin care about that thing called Life...
i ve my dreams, plans, goals... because their fulfillment will make my life more enjoyable.. but i dont like how life is made.. with its rules and dynamics.. so i dont give a fuck about it and dont wanna bring other matter to life...

so, you can obviously say that a world made by people like me and @No Gods No Masters can’t exhist.. and i think that the people you @No Gods No Masters are talking about has been selected by the nature... people that can be happy with things that people like us take for granted.. people that can enjoy what you and others think aren’t enjoyable because they dont match with our romantic vision of life.. “they” dont have our problems.. they wanna have kids etc etc.. because people with “that” mind, can keep this world going.. our worlds to keep going needs the people you’re talking about..

imagine a world made by people like you and me.. i wouldnt even exhist because dont wanna have kids... i couldnt have anything because nobody would do some jobs... we dont have machines that work for us...
i m a downer but just in the view of life i believe to be objective... but i m not a downer in living..

i m so glad the world have the people i m seeing in this forum.. like @BigDaddyV because hes polite and a good guy, like many others I already tagged in other posts... i think they even have all the reasons in this world to enjoy their jobs, to wanna havin kids etc...

I havent always been like that... i just changed my mind after lot of stuff happened to me and started seeing things differently.. maybe i just opened my eyes, because its undeniable that we as humans fuckin suck...

just think about British and Portuguese that went to africa and took slaves , then went to america, killed natives and put african slaves at work in south america... think about how many people that fuckin religious men have killed during the years... think about even Jesus Christ that it seems has been killed by other jews for blasphemy because he said he was son of god.. dont know how it went.. maybe he wanted to change things religion related...

think about the people and animals who are killed ED by bad ones... dont think anyone can ever say that i m a downer because i m crazy or whatever... the crazy ones are those that dont wanna kill all the bad people out there.. anyway i wouldnt have started this topic and write such things...

Anyway, i wanna win a men physique competition... starting my instagram page.. starting a YouTube channel full of weird projects... and i dont mind if i ll die in 4 months during my new prep.. i ll update my log when i ll be very different from my avatar pic.. since i had to quit everything because lockdown and because of health issues.. so right now i m slightly better than last time, just lost the tan

Peace and love... and fuck god and the fuckin universe \m/ Fuck you Jeff Bezos, Greta Thunder, Elon Musk, Simeon Panda, Mike O Hearn and fuck you planet Earth .. you will never own me

 

[BigDaddyV]

WARNING: long bory post.. skip to the end and watch the vid because its cool


i feel this guy, and i think that, people like him
and me, see the world in his objectivity...as already stated i dont wanna have children because this world is plenty of cruelty and life isnt asked by any one... i m not afraid of death... dont give a fuck about it.. me too dont wanna rely anymore into classic jobs.. so or i ll go to prison or i ll be killed o i ll have to kill myself... and i m ok with that... dont fuckin care about that thing called Life...
i ve my dreams, plans, goals... because their fulfillment will make my life more enjoyable.. but i dont like how life is made.. with its rules and dynamics.. so i dont give a fuck about it and dont wanna bring other matter to life...

so, you can obviously say that a world made by people like me and @No Gods No Masters can’t exhist.. and i think that the people you @No Gods No Masters are talking about has been selected by the nature... people that can be happy with things that people like us take for granted.. people that can enjoy what you and others think aren’t enjoyable because they dont match with our romantic vision of life.. “they” dont have our problems.. they wanna have kids etc etc.. because people with “that” mind, can keep this world going.. our worlds to keep going needs the people you’re talking about..

imagine a world made by people like you and me.. i wouldnt even exhist because dont wanna have kids... i couldnt have anything because nobody would do some jobs... we dont have machines that work for us...
i m a downer but just in the view of life i believe to be objective... but i m not a downer in living..

i m so glad the world have the people i m seeing in this forum.. like @BigDaddyV because hes polite and a good guy, like many others I already tagged in other posts... i think they even have all the reasons in this world to enjoy their jobs, to wanna havin kids etc...

I havent always been like that... i just changed my mind after lot of stuff happened to me and started seeing things differently.. maybe i just opened my eyes, because its undeniable that we as humans fuckin suck...

just think about British and Portuguese that went to africa and took slaves , then went to america, killed natives and put african slaves at work in south america... think about how many people that fuckin religious men have killed during the years... think about even Jesus Christ that it seems has been killed by other jews for blasphemy because he said he was son of god.. dont know how it went.. maybe he wanted to change things religion related...

think about the people and animals who are killed ED by bad ones... dont think anyone can ever say that i m a downer because i m crazy or whatever... the crazy ones are those that dont wanna kill all the bad people out there.. anyway i wouldnt have started this topic and write such things...

Anyway, i wanna win a men physique competition... starting my instagram page.. starting a YouTube channel full of weird projects... and i dont mind if i ll die in 4 months during my new prep.. i ll update my log when i ll be very different from my avatar pic.. since i had to quit everything because lockdown and because of health issues.. so right now i m slightly better than last time, just lost the tan

Peace and love... and fuck god and the fuckin universe \m/ Fuck you Jeff Bezos, Greta Thunder, Elon Musk, Simeon Panda, Mike O Hearn and fuck you planet Earth .. you will never own me

I appreciate that bro.
I don’t think your views are wrong I actually think you have a badass mind set. I just disagree with the way ngnm puts people in a box and is pretty closed minded on seeing the other side of things and is 1000% positive his way is the only correct one. You however, are able to see both sides. You understand how someone like me can enjoy life and you accept me regardless of us having different life views and I respect that a lot. I enjoy talking to people who see things differently because it makes you think outside of what you see and think everyday. It opens your mind a little. I don’t think you’re a downer at all. Not being scared of death and not wanting to have kids doesn’t make you a downer I think you should continue to live the life you love and enjoy the fuck out of it.

 

[BigDaddyV]

WARNING: long bory post.. skip to the end and watch the vid because its cool


i feel this guy, and i think that, people like him
and me, see the world in his objectivity...as already stated i dont wanna have children because this world is plenty of cruelty and life isnt asked by any one... i m not afraid of death... dont give a fuck about it.. me too dont wanna rely anymore into classic jobs.. so or i ll go to prison or i ll be killed o i ll have to kill myself... and i m ok with that... dont fuckin care about that thing called Life...
i ve my dreams, plans, goals... because their fulfillment will make my life more enjoyable.. but i dont like how life is made.. with its rules and dynamics.. so i dont give a fuck about it and dont wanna bring other matter to life...

so, you can obviously say that a world made by people like me and @No Gods No Masters can’t exhist.. and i think that the people you @No Gods No Masters are talking about has been selected by the nature... people that can be happy with things that people like us take for granted.. people that can enjoy what you and others think aren’t enjoyable because they dont match with our romantic vision of life.. “they” dont have our problems.. they wanna have kids etc etc.. because people with “that” mind, can keep this world going.. our worlds to keep going needs the people you’re talking about..

imagine a world made by people like you and me.. i wouldnt even exhist because dont wanna have kids... i couldnt have anything because nobody would do some jobs... we dont have machines that work for us...
i m a downer but just in the view of life i believe to be objective... but i m not a downer in living..

i m so glad the world have the people i m seeing in this forum.. like @BigDaddyV because hes polite and a good guy, like many others I already tagged in other posts... i think they even have all the reasons in this world to enjoy their jobs, to wanna havin kids etc...

I havent always been like that... i just changed my mind after lot of stuff happened to me and started seeing things differently.. maybe i just opened my eyes, because its undeniable that we as humans fuckin suck...

just think about British and Portuguese that went to africa and took slaves , then went to america, killed natives and put african slaves at work in south america... think about how many people that fuckin religious men have killed during the years... think about even Jesus Christ that it seems has been killed by other jews for blasphemy because he said he was son of god.. dont know how it went.. maybe he wanted to change things religion related...

think about the people and animals who are killed ED by bad ones... dont think anyone can ever say that i m a downer because i m crazy or whatever... the crazy ones are those that dont wanna kill all the bad people out there.. anyway i wouldnt have started this topic and write such things...

Anyway, i wanna win a men physique competition... starting my instagram page.. starting a YouTube channel full of weird projects... and i dont mind if i ll die in 4 months during my new prep.. i ll update my log when i ll be very different from my avatar pic.. since i had to quit everything because lockdown and because of health issues.. so right now i m slightly better than last time, just lost the tan

Peace and love... and fuck god and the fuckin universe \m/ Fuck you Jeff Bezos, Greta Thunder, Elon Musk, Simeon Panda, Mike O Hearn and fuck you planet Earth .. you will never own me

That videos funny as hell btw

 

[FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR]

Anyway, dont wanna be pathetic, but i can say that Meso as a community is plenty of real men... i can safely say that Meso changed drastically my life.. i learned a lot of things and got in contact with lot of useful people and made some friends im gonna meet in real life..

Thanks to lot of guys here... that care about some guys they perceive as “brothers”.. no matter what... nobody asked me anything in change, and the same i did when i had to share recipes you cant find out there... and similar stuff...

lot of guys here spent time to help others, without even being thanked.. because they are real men...

 

[Demondosage]

What's a real man? One simple answer; a guy that can HANDLE SHIT.

He doesn't cry over bills, constantly make excuses for his shortcomings, or blame everyone else. Simple stuff such as paying for a dinner, paying for his families needs, and providing a good home atmosphere that is stable and loving, yea that's a real man to me.

One thing that should be mentioned is the lack of REAL WOMEN. If you are doing what it takes to be a real man then you shouldn't settle for bullshit. You know 90% of these bitches ain't worth a fuck anymore and cannot do anything for a guy anyways.

 

[malfeasance]

One thing that should be mentioned is the lack of REAL WOMEN. If you are doing what it takes to be a real man then you shouldn't settle for bullshit. You know 90% of these bitches ain't worth a fuck anymore and cannot do anything for a guy anyways.

Ha, ha! LOL! No lie.

But men are thirsty and they settle, by and large. Hey, she is sexy. Who cares that she does not offer any of the submissive feminine traits that would make a marriage actually work? She is a career woman (which means she is off somewhere most of the day under the authority and submitting to a man not her husband). Or she thinks marriage is a "partnership" where everything is "equal," another recipe for divorce.

But more often than not, it simply means that she is "strong and independent" and "sassy" (yeah, females actually put the word "sassy" in dating profiles like it will help attract men), which really means obnoxiously loud and bitchy.

Men then put women on a pedestal, do whatever they ask, and so doom themselves and make all of the traits above worse.

 

[FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR]

Ha, ha! LOL! No lie.

But men are thirsty and they settle, by and large. Hey, she is sexy. Who cares that she does not offer any of the submissive feminine traits that would make a marriage actually work? She is a career woman (which means she is off somewhere most of the day under the authority and submitting to a man not her husband). Or she thinks marriage is a "partnership" where everything is "equal," another recipe for divorce.

But more often than not, it simply means that she is "strong and independent" and "sassy" (yeah, females actually put the word "sassy" in dating profiles like it will help attract men), which really means obnoxiously loud and bitchy.

Men then put women on a pedestal, do whatever they ask, and so doom themselves and make all of the traits above worse.

Ahaha im thinking all day long to this topic... about real women... just now i read the last replies... some hours ago i was strugglin with some thoughts women related since i heard nh ex gf today and was wondering about next lady i ll date... i was scrolling some fb profiles of some girls I know and depression rose on me.. but, mainly because some of them are actually good girls, and i m not the guy they need in their life... i wont be happy with a non bisexual girl friend... or what if she doesnt wanna eat my protein filled sperm? Or what if she doesnt wanna do anal?
So... i thought that maybe i should try to live a double life... starting my porn production in east europe with an alias... maybe a wig and some moustaches.., and then having a normal girlfriend that doesnt wanna call her girlfriend to our home and play.. i think I would be ok with a normal girl if i have my secret world...

I wouldnt be happy living only the porn experience, i would feel the need of normal stuff... and at the same time i would feel the need of thrills... i mean, i can shot a cool porn in Praha with 2 famous actress freakin wonderful and skilled, for less than 2k ...

Its obvious that couldnt easily be a hobby, unless you earn 20k monthly... so i m planning to have my own production to make some buck out of it...

“Yeah my darling, another business meeting tomorrow... i ll be back”

 

[FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR]

Ahaha im thinking all day long to this topic... about real women... just now i read the last replies... some hours ago i was strugglin with some thoughts women related since i heard nh ex gf today and was wondering about next lady i ll date... i was scrolling some fb profiles of some girls I know and depression rose on me.. but, mainly because some of them are actually good girls, and i m not the guy they need in their life... i wont be happy with a non bisexual girl friend... or what if she doesnt wanna eat my protein filled sperm? Or what if she doesnt wanna do anal?
So... i thought that maybe i should try to live a double life... starting my porn production in east europe with an alias... maybe a wig and some moustaches.., and then having a normal girlfriend that doesnt wanna call her girlfriend to our home and play.. i think I would be ok with a normal girl if i have my secret world...

I wouldnt be happy living only the porn experience, i would feel the need of normal stuff... and at the same time i would feel the need of thrills... i mean, i can shot a cool porn in Praha with 2 famous actress freakin wonderful and skilled, for less than 2k ...

Its obvious that couldnt easily be a hobby, unless you earn 20k monthly... so i m planning to have my own production to make some buck out of it...

“Yeah my darling, another business meeting tomorrow... i ll be back”

Yeah i know i would be a shady son of a bitch whatever... its not my fault if lot of ladies doenst enjoy Female Female Man Threesome...

 

[Demondosage]

Ha, ha! LOL! No lie.

But men are thirsty and they settle, by and large. Hey, she is sexy. Who cares that she does not offer any of the submissive feminine traits that would make a marriage actually work? She is a career woman (which means she is off somewhere most of the day under the authority and submitting to a man not her husband). Or she thinks marriage is a "partnership" where everything is "equal," another recipe for divorce.

But more often than not, it simply means that she is "strong and independent" and "sassy" (yeah, females actually put the word "sassy" in dating profiles like it will help attract men), which really means obnoxiously loud and bitchy.

Men then put women on a pedestal, do whatever they ask, and so doom themselves and make all of the traits above worse.

You hit the nail on the head! The real issue with many women who are independent and "career driven" is that they're in a constant dick measuring contest and want to run the relationship. Usually this is also influenced by some fucked up upbringing where the father figure was missing and/or inconsistent in their lives, they never saw compromise in a household or felt the love that 2 parents had for one another. So what's that create? A world where men don't exist nor matter since they don't even know what a stable home life is.

I've been married for almost 17 years now. The reason it's worked out is because I have a wife who acts like a woman. The house is always clean, kids well taken care of, and I get what I want. I could leave to go to the gym twice a day and no questions are asked. My phone isn't ringing off the hook over bullshit and nagging.

But truth be told, I've done what I've wanted since day #1. She knew I ran gear, she knew I wasn't going to change my bodybuilding lifestyle, and she knew I didn't put up with games and bullshit.

NOW, she doesn't work because I make it so she doesn't have to. But, she is expected to hold up her part of the deal, and that is to keep a clean house, cook dinner, and suck my damn dick when I want it. And you know what? That type of marriage works well!

If most women could just STFU, cook, clean a house, be good moms and suck some dick, they'd have it made in life. Hell, most guys wouldn't even mind working some overtime or hustling to make side money if they could come home to a clean house and a chick willing to get down on her knees. BUT NOOOOOO!!! Most of them still can't figure that out.

There should be seminars at high schools with one group of stay at home moms and another group of working class moms (or single mothers working 2 and 3 jobs) and let them tell their stories. I bet it would save a lot of marriages.

But you know what one of the problems is? MEN CANNOT BE MEN , and these women have to play both roles because men are failing. WTF kind of grown man comes home to sit on his ass and play video games all night? A fucking boy, that's who!

So what I'm saying is that if you are a good dude that can provide, then make sure you're with someone that is worth a damn! Now, right out of the gate that bitch is either gonna be submissive or pull out the ruler to measure dicks against you. You can see that shit real damn fast if you're not blinded by pussy and too damn desperate to see the red flags!

 

[Cookieman]

You hit the nail on the head! The real issue with many women who are independent and "career driven" is that they're in a constant dick measuring contest and want to run the relationship. Usually this is also influenced by some fucked up upbringing where the father figure was missing and/or inconsistent in their lives, they never saw compromise in a household or felt the love that 2 parents had for one another. So what's that create? A world where men don't exist nor matter since they don't even know what a stable home life is.

I've been married for almost 17 years now. The reason it's worked out is because I have a wife who acts like a woman. The house is always clean, kids well taken care of, and I get what I want. I could leave to go to the gym twice a day and no questions are asked. My phone isn't ringing off the hook over bullshit and nagging.

But truth be told, I've done what I've wanted since day #1. She knew I ran gear, she knew I wasn't going to change my bodybuilding lifestyle, and she knew I didn't put up with games and bullshit.

NOW, she doesn't work because I make it so she doesn't have to. But, she is expected to hold up her part of the deal, and that is to keep a clean house, cook dinner, and suck my damn dick when I want it. And you know what? That type of marriage works well!

If most women could just STFU, cook, clean a house, be good moms and suck some dick, they'd have it made in life. Hell, most guys wouldn't even mind working some overtime or hustling to make side money if they could come home to a clean house and a chick willing to get down on her knees. BUT NOOOOOO!!! Most of them still can't figure that out.

There should be seminars at high schools with one group of stay at home moms and another group of working class moms (or single mothers working 2 and 3 jobs) and let them tell their stories. I bet it would save a lot of marriages.

But you know what one of the problems is? MEN CANNOT BE MEN , and these women have to play both roles because men are failing. WTF kind of grown man comes home to sit on his ass and play video games all night? A fucking boy, that's who!

So what I'm saying is that if you are a good dude that can provide, then make sure you're with someone that is worth a damn! Now, right out of the gate that bitch is either gonna be submissive or pull out the ruler to measure dicks against you. You can see that shit real damn fast if you're not blinded by pussy and too damn desperate to see the red flags!

This!!! You hit the nail on the head brother..I have the same deal as you. I don't know, maybe because my lady and are older this type of deal exists..My gf grew up in a traditional family and learned from them.. Mine has always known about my gear usage, doesn't whine when I have to leave town for work, etc.etc...I respect her, she respects me..She knows though that I'm not going to put up with some dumb b.s....And truth be known, she wouldn't put up with it from me either. We have a somewhat traditional, old school relationship...She's also really cool, very sexy, and fucked me like a pornstar... Hey younger dudes, just remember...People will treat us exactly the way WE ALLOW THEM TO....