Which glp1 is best for my situation? Please help

[thoroughlyconfused]

I'm going to start one of these due to binge eating issues.

Some context. I know how to track my calories, I have a good understanding of the science behind everything, I train at a athletes level, (full body 3 times a week, liss cardio 3 times a week, hitt twice a week and boxing 4 times a week)

But I fail with severe binge eating every few weeks. I gained a lot of weight through a injury and I've started eating very well again. I'm still losing weight but incredibly incredibly slowly from the binge eating which is usually 7000 calories for like a week straight every month or so

Anyway I'm wondering which one of these drugs is best that still lets me train hard, doesn't cause loads of hairloss, and also I have insomnia but I'm willing to deal with that worse is one of them still lets me train hard and doesn't cause heaps of hairloss.

 

[Ghoul]

Which glp1 is best for my situation? Please help

So I'm going to start one of these due to binge eating issues.

Some context. I know how to track my calories, I have a very good understanding of the science behind everything, I train at a athletes level, (full body 3 times a week, liss cardio 3 times a week, hitt twice a week and boxing 4 times a week)

But I fail with severe binge eating every few weeks. I gained a lot of weight through a injury and I've started eating food again. I'm still losing weight but incredibly incredibly slowly from the binge eating which is usually 7000 calories for like a week straight

Anyway I'm wondering which one of these drugs is best that still lets me train hard, doesn't cause loads of hairloss, and also I have insomnia but I'm willing to deal with that worse is one of them still lets me train hard and doesn't cause heaps of hairloss.

Hair shedding is purely the result of rapid weight loss and can be managed with proper nutrition. Oral Minoxidil would also help.

Semaglutide is the hammer of weight loss GLPs. It provides the "carrot" with a significantly reduced appetite and diminishment of psychological food noise, and the "stick" of physical punishment if you eat despite not being hungry. If you eat "beyond your appetite" you'll pay for it shortly after, so you will learn to listen to your appetite or else.

Sounds like that would be more effective in your situation.

Tirz and Reta are too "gentle".

 

[noteablequotable]

Agree RE Sema and it's the cheapest GLP-1 on the market right now. I will say that Mazdutide + Tirz resulted in actual food aversion for me, and there have been some other reports of food aversion with Mazdutide on Peppy's as well. If you need a really strong hammer and you can afford it, it's worth a try.

 

[thoroughlyconfused]

I can afford tirz np I could even

Agree RE Sema and it's the cheapest GLP-1 on the market right now. I will say that Mazdutide + Tirz resulted in actual food aversion for me, and there have been some other reports of food aversion with Mazdutide on Peppy's as well. If you need a really strong hammer and you can afford it, it's worth a try.

I could afford Tirz no problem even reta if that's best the issue is more what's best in results to side effects wise

 

[thoroughlyconfused]

Hair shedding is purely the result of rapid weight loss and can be managed with proper nutrition. Oral Minoxidil would also help.

Semaglutide is the hammer of weight loss GLPs. It provides the "carrot" with a significantly reduced appetite and diminishment of psychological food noise, and the "stick" of physical punishment if you eat despite not being hungry. If you eat "beyond your appetite" you'll pay for it shortly after, so you will learn to listen to your appetite or else.

Sounds like that would be more effective in your situation.

Tirz and Reta are too "gentle".

How did U find the sema for performance in terms of consistent hard workouts? I've heard these glps can effect that and some more then others

 

[Ghoul]

How did U find the sema for performance in terms of consistent hard workouts? I've heard these glps can effect that and some more then others

A few people complain of fatigue on Tirz, but I've never noticed any impact that didn't come down to diet.

 

[Country Club Hero]

Sema made me feel kinda weird and I had to pin it at night. But the results were so good I stayed the course until I finished my 10 vial kit. Then I graduated to Tirzepatide.

Tirzepatide is easy and has the least side effects for me. I still get hungry but can only eat a fraction of what I used to.

Retatrutide seems to me to be a little better all around than Tirz but imo it’s just a matter of personal preference.

I suggest starting with Sema. Graduate to Tirz in time. Eventually land on Reta and stay there a while. After that you can decide which one was best for you. That’s what I did over the period of like 2.5 years. Then I took like 8 months off of all of them and now back on Tirz.

Honestly dude, they all work great if you order from a source with proven testing. So just try em and decide for yourself which one you prefer. Sema has by far the most negative side effects but still awfully effective.

 

[thoroughlyconfused]

Sema made me feel kinda weird and I had to pin it at night. But the results were so good I stayed the course until I finished my 10 vial kit. Then I graduated to Tirzepatide.

Tirzepatide is easy and has the least side effects for me. I still get hungry but can only eat a fraction of what I used to.

Retatrutide seems to me to be a little better all around than Tirz but imo it’s just a matter of personal preference.

I suggest starting with Sema. Graduate to Tirz in time. Eventually land on Reta and stay there a while. After that you can decide which one was best for you. That’s what I did over the period of like 2.5 years. Then I took like 8 months off of all of them and now back on Tirz.

Honestly dude, they all work great if you order from a source with proven testing. So just try em and decide for yourself which one you prefer. Sema has by far the most negative side effects but still awfully effective.

I was trying to decide between hyb and sigma Audley I was gonna get the tesa and tirz or reta or sema

Btw what happened when you got off did U keep the weight off.

I reckon I have about 40 pounds to lose to get to 10 percent body fat which is a lot but hopefully not so much I gotta stay on like foreverv

 

[Ghoul]

I was trying to decide between hyb and sigma Audley I was gonna get the tesa and tirz or reta or sema

Btw what happened when you got off did U keep the weight off.

I reckon I have about 40 pounds to lose to get to 10 percent body fat which is a lot but hopefully not so much I gotta stay on like foreverv

GLPs are hormones not diet pills.

The same thing will happen to your weight that will happen to your muscles when coming off steroids. They'll return to where you were before.

 

[Country Club Hero]

I was trying to decide between hyb and sigma Audley I was gonna get the tesa and tirz or reta or sema

Btw what happened when you got off did U keep the weight off.

I reckon I have about 40 pounds to lose to get to 10 percent body fat which is a lot but hopefully not so much I gotta stay on like foreverv

I decided to downsize significantly in my early 40s as I was carrying too much mass for my frame. I could tell the extra weight was going to hamper my work and make aging more difficult on my joints. It was mostly muscle though as I was only about 12-13% bf at the time.

So about 5-6 months after starting Sema I had lost about 35 pounds. Probably 25 of that was muscle. And I was ok with that. Fast forward a few years and about 7-8 months after finishing Reta I had gained about 10-12 pounds back. Probably half muscle and half fat.

So yes, I kept most of it off. But my hunger had gotten insane again and that’s what led me to start Tirzepatide again. So I guess I am not your typical glp user. My favorite aspect of this class of drugs is that they free up my brain from thinking about food all day. Previously I would estimate 80% of my daily thoughts revolved around food. On glp’s I may ruminate on food 20% of the time. And that’s a huge deal for me.

 

[Ghoul]

I decided to downsize significantly in my early 40s as I was carrying too much mass for my frame. I could tell the extra weight was going to hamper my work and make aging more difficult on my joints. It was mostly muscle though as I was only about 12-13% bf at the time.

So about 5-6 months after starting Sema I had lost about 35 pounds. Probably 25 of that was muscle. And I was ok with that. Fast forward a few years and about 7-8 months after finishing Reta I had gained about 10-12 pounds back. Probably half muscle and half fat.

So yes, I kept most of it off. But my hunger had gotten insane again and that’s what led me to start Tirzepatide again. So I guess I am not your typical glp user. My favorite aspect of this class of drugs is that they free up my brain from thinking about food all day. Previously I would estimate 80% of my daily thoughts revolved around food. On glp’s I may ruminate on food 20% of the time. And that’s a huge deal for me.

The same mechanism at work with most compulsive behavior, and why GLPs are curing alcoholism, and addictions to many other substances.

 

[lamehack]

its all individual. I had absolutely no energy on 0.1MG sema!! gym not possible (peptidesciences). and felt like hell. this can't be good. reta is mild but a great addition to a proper loss regimen. right now I do 2mg reta and 250mcg cagri. just the sweet spot for me. workouts are great

 

[AlexDavis43]

I was trying to decide between hyb and sigma Audley I was gonna get the tesa and tirz or reta or sema

Btw what happened when you got off did U keep the weight off.

I reckon I have about 40 pounds to lose to get to 10 percent body fat which is a lot but hopefully not so much I gotta stay on like foreverv

There are some studies that show if lifestyle was included in the intervention, weight regain is preventable. Important point is you take the time on GLP1s to fix diet/lifestyle.

Worded another way, stay on the GLP1s until you have established better diet/lifestyle habits. If you can't do that and want the weight to stay off, better stay on the drugs.

 

[Ghoul]

There are some studies that show if lifestyle was included in the intervention, weight regain is preventable.

What studies?

 

[FuriousAngus]

I too am a chronic binge eater. Tirz at 2.5mg (split into two weekly doses) completely got rid of my binge eating episodes (from day 1, used to happen multiple times a week), despite not affecting hunger or appetite at all. In fact, the only benefit that I can actually feel from Tirz at this dose is the significant suppression of food noise and having so much more control over my food-related (maybe impulse buying, too) decisions.

I can still eat just as much as I used to, but I no longer HAVE to.

 

[Ghoul]

I too am a chronic binge eater. Tirz at 2.5mg (split into two weekly doses) completely got rid of my binge eating episodes (from day 1, used to happen multiple times a week), despite not affecting hunger or appetite at all. In fact, the only benefit that I can actually feel from Tirz at this dose is the significant suppression of food noise and having so much more control over my food-related (maybe impulse buying, too) decisions.

I can still eat just as much as I used to, but I no longer HAVE to.

If only you'd take this time to adopt lifestyle changes, the intrusive and insatiable signaling from your body's dysfunctional energy homeostasis regulatory system would go away. It has nothing to do with insufficient production or insensitivity to incretin hormones (despite exogenous hormones like GLPs fixing the problem).

Appetite is experienced at the same intensity in everyone, the only difference being superior humans (see above) easily exercise control over it, while inferior, weak, contemptible people choose not to. /sarc

 

[Luke391]

I'm going to start one of these due to binge eating issues.

Some context. I know how to track my calories, I have a good understanding of the science behind everything, I train at a athletes level, (full body 3 times a week, liss cardio 3 times a week, hitt twice a week and boxing 4 times a week)

But I fail with severe binge eating every few weeks. I gained a lot of weight through a injury and I've started eating very well again. I'm still losing weight but incredibly incredibly slowly from the binge eating which is usually 7000 calories for like a week straight every month or so

Anyway I'm wondering which one of these drugs is best that still lets me train hard, doesn't cause loads of hairloss, and also I have insomnia but I'm willing to deal with that worse is one of them still lets me train hard and doesn't cause heaps of hairloss.

same for me. I struggled with BED for many years. started tirzepatide about 6-7wrrks ago. Now I'm on 5mg, at first the binge eating completely went away and I lost about 15lbs, then my appetite came back and now I bige a little from time to time bit it's not that bad (appetite came back because I lost weight), only had a little stomach pain and nausea on the 2nd week, then no side effects. I'm gonna stay on 5mg for some more time and tyen decide if I wanna go up or not. I think tirz is really good but everyone will have a different experience

 

[lamehack]

binge eating is a mix of emotional eating and messed up satiety signals. tbh you should utilize every tool there is, but I follow a simple rule 'am I hungry or not' - would I eat a steak/burger patty/can of sardines now or not? if not - I am not hungry. what helped me to a large extent is cleaning up diet. now I only eat meat/plants/dairy. no grains or processed sugars. got me to 18% BF and falling (while recomping).
solely relying on glp1's is not a recipe for long term success. those drugs do stop working in most cases.

 

[Luke391]

Hair shedding is purely the result of rapid weight loss and can be managed with proper nutrition. Oral Minoxidil would also help.

Semaglutide is the hammer of weight loss GLPs. It provides the "carrot" with a significantly reduced appetite and diminishment of psychological food noise, and the "stick" of physical punishment if you eat despite not being hungry. If you eat "beyond your appetite" you'll pay for it shortly after, so you will learn to listen to your appetite or else.

Sounds like that would be more effective in your situation.

Tirz and Reta are too "gentle".

I'd be carefull saying that tirz and reta are too gentle. I also had years of BED and I coould put down 6000+ calories in one sitting like nothing. Just 5mg of tirz helped a lot, I sill binge sometime but the issue is like 70% gone. I'm confidend if I eventually get up to 7.5 or 10mg it'll be fully resolved.
I tried sema and 2.5mg had be bedridden and I still had food noise. I feel like tirz works better on the mental aspect of food cravings

 

[Luke391]

binge eating is a mix of emotional eating and messed up satiety signals. tbh you should utilize every tool there is, but I follow a simple rule 'am I hungry or not' - would I eat a steak/burger patty/can of sardines now or not? if not - I am not hungry. what helped me to a large extent is cleaning up diet. now I only eat meat/plants/dairy. no grains or processed sugars. got me to 18% BF and falling (while recomping).
solely relying on glp1's is not a recipe for long term success. those drugs do stop working in most cases.

I disagree. I had BED for many years and tried everything. Started tirzepatide 6weeks ago and the issue is almost fully resolved