Why Bush?

[DaRooster]

I don't like Bush, I think I've made that clear by now. Not to crazy bout Kerry but I'd vote for Santa to run things better than GW has.

So! Let hear why you like Bush.
JUST ONE RULE.
You can't mention Kerry or even the democrates AT ALL!!!!.

Lets just hear your POSITIVE impressions of the President and what he has done for our nation. PEACE

 

[Kayz]

I don't like Bush, I think I've made that clear by now. Not to crazy bout Kerry but I'd vote for Santa to run things better than GW has.

So! Let hear why you like Bush.
JUST ONE RULE.
You can't mention Kerry or even the democrates AT ALL!!!!.

Lets just hear your POSITIVE impressions of the President and what he has done for our nation. PEACE

Well, as a "small business owner" I can honestly say that my business benefitted greatly from his tax breaks. I could have taken this money for myself as a nice bonus, but I chose to re-invest it into my business.

1) We put in a fume scrubber to ensure that our employees enjoy the cleanest possible air in their work stations. This ran about $50K, and we purchased it from an American company in our state. We had to hire electricians to wire this beast in...electric bill came to a little less than $10K. We also hired local plumbers to run all the plumbing and pipework....ab out $10-12K.

2) We bought 2 new box trailers ($28K each) from a local truck/trailer plant to help our deliveries run more efficiently.

3) We also bought 2 new truck chassis to have new tanks mounted on them. Each chassis was about $60K and we bought them from a local distributor as well.

4) Typically, we lay off about 15 truck drivers in our off season. Howeve, this year we were able to keep 12 of those guys...so they are able to keep a paycheck and their insurance.

Basically, Bush and his tax policies enabled us to better our company by saving us money. In return, we dumped that money right back into the market place at the local lever....thus stimulating the local/national economies.

I also agree personally with Bush on gun laws/rights, gay marriage (although I do not agree wiht a constitutional amendment to do ban it), abortion, and the war on terror. But, I vote what is best for my family, my business, and myself.....and we always do better when a Republican is in office.

And I know you are gonna say "yeah, but you are looking after YOUR interests only", which is true, I am. However, everything that I just said with respect to business also holds true for hundreds of thousands of other small businesses....so in essence, it does have a national/international effect.

 

[MACHI]

Gwb

Because Bush didn't wait to get the UN's approval before going into Iraq. Based on the intelligence he had, he did what he thought was best for our country at the time.

 

[vikings]

Here is the scoop!!

George W. Bush is a down right liar, he cares nothing for the little people, whether you have a small businees or not you will still be eaten alive in the near future by the republican party. Also, domestically, he has failed the natives, the African American community, and the straight less fortunate whether white black or orange! Also, you are not suppose to out source jobs, that in itself is totally contrary to the success of the American dream for all Americans. Guess what I fought for this country, and I feel within my scope I contributed greatly during OP desert storm/shield.

Look Folks this So called President in his election stealing, and voter discrepanies is no different that a corrupt nominee in a third world country trying to steal our freedoms and choices. I am a preacher, niether gay, or color preferenced. I stand on the principles of Jesus Christ, let us not be deceived.

I am also convinced that GW Bush isn't running the country but someone behind the scenes is ie... administration("his Daddy"). He knows just what to say to persuade voters. I was a BB on a professional level, but he is incompetent for the job at hand, It is about people not just the "HAVES". I'll leave ou all with this. If he returns to office, we all will need to go down in prayer and fasting to somehow urge God that we are all sorry for what we have done individually, and what our leaders of America have done decietfully. We will to somehow twist God's arm from Judgment. If he didn't spare Sodom and Gommorah for all their immorality then if he spares us then God owes Sodom and Gommorah an Apology!!!!!!

Point Blank
It is to the point that it is about God having our hearts in reverence

peace and God bless you all

 

[Kayz]

George W. Bush is a down right liar, he cares nothing for the little people, whether you have a small businees or not you will still be eaten alive in the near future by the republican party. Also, domestically, he has failed the natives, the African American community, and the straight less fortunate whether white black or orange! Also, you are not suppose to out source jobs, that in itself is totally contrary to the success of the American dream for all Americans. Guess what I fought for this country, and I feel within my scope I contributed greatly during OP desert storm/shield.

Look Folks this So called President in his election stealing, and voter discrepanies is no different that a corrupt nominee in a third world country trying to steal our freedoms and choices. I am a preacher, niether gay, or color preferenced. I stand on the principles of Jesus Christ, let us not be deceived.

I am also convinced that GW Bush isn't running the country but someone behind the scenes is ie... administration("his Daddy"). He knows just what to say to persuade voters. I was a BB on a professional level, but he is incompetent for the job at hand, It is about people not just the "HAVES". I'll leave ou all with this. If he returns to office, we all will need to go down in prayer and fasting to somehow urge God that we are all sorry for what we have done individually, and what our leaders of America have done decietfully. We will to somehow twist God's arm from Judgment. If he didn't spare Sodom and Gommorah for all their immorality then if he spares us then God owes Sodom and Gommorah an Apology!!!!!!

Point Blank
It is to the point that it is about God having our hearts in reverence

peace and God bless you all

LOL....this is the funniest post I have ever read on Meso.

Actually, prohibiting outsourcing is what is "totally contrary" to our way of government (i.e.: capitalism). In capitalism, businesses thrive on having a great deal of freedom in which they can operate in any manner they see fit as long as it is legal. Your statement is just ignorant!!!

Since when are we obligated to look after the Natives and blacks more than any other race?? I'm sick and tired of the liberal views that we must look after certain groups more closely than others.

Please provide evidence of voter fraud and discrepancies to back up your stupid ass claims.

You said "he knows just what to say to persuade voters." Well no shit...he is a politician just like Kerry. They both are very good at persuasion.

What does you being a professional BB have to do with anything?? And how does that make him incompetent to be President?? You are not that important dude.....I can guarantee you that.

And as a preacher, you sure are judgemental as hell. Doesn't taht go against what your God preaches??

And will you say a prayer for me.....I'm not very religious and don't buy into all the religious mumbo jumbo.

 

[DaRooster]

LOL....this is the funniest post I have ever read on Meso.

Actually, prohibiting outsourcing is what is "totally contrary" to our way of government (i.e.: capitalism). In capitalism, businesses thrive on having a great deal of freedom in which they can operate in any manner they see fit as long as it is legal. Your statement is just ignorant!!!

Since when are we obligated to look after the Natives and blacks more than any other race?? I'm sick and tired of the liberal views that we must look after certain groups more closely than others.

Please provide evidence of voter fraud and discrepancies to back up your stupid ass claims.

You said "he knows just what to say to persuade voters." Well no shit...he is a politician just like Kerry. They both are very good at persuasion.

What does you being a professional BB have to do with anything?? And how does that make him incompetent to be President?? You are not that important dude.....I can guarantee you that.

And as a preacher, you sure are judgemental as hell. Doesn't taht go against what your God preaches??

And will you say a prayer for me.....I'm not very religious and don't buy into all the religious mumbo jumbo.

Hey ass hole you broke the rules. Don't mention KERRY.. LOL J/K bro

 

[Kayz]

Hey ass hole you broke the rules. Don't mention KERRY.. LOL J/K bro

Call Vikings an asshole too.....he mentioned Bush!!!

 

[vikings]

listen up

Da rooster, I do not have anything positive to say about President Bush, but i will continue to pray for our leaders of this nation. I cannot prove fraud and discrepancies, I know just what the media has found out from the voters that attorneys located at the have voters sites that have witnessed this trevestry. Also KAYZ, we can do this without hostility, I am a man of Peace, I don't want to fight, I have fought enough! it's not liberal bro, It is just facts. Outsourcing to mass degrees that this President is concerned with is very harmful to both National security and foreign policy. Also KAYZ, me being a Pro BB means
nothing,I was just informing you all of my position as a voter.. I believe many human beings are really in a toss-up on who to cast there vote on, but I will tell you that GW has not provided any positive effects for the people of this country that have struggled, in case you don't know, jobs are scarce, very scarce... I talking private sector nice paying jobs that flood the economy with its greenbacks. Every President we have had that was republican has created a huge negative deficit, which i turns causes multitudes of poor people, and a struggle that is not indicative of the American Dream or of the pride as a Nation we are suppose to possess. This in turn once again makes us no better than a third world country. Just watch the conditon after 4 more years of GW.

This is about haves and have nots, it is about Black and whites overall no matter how you look at it. You said that I was ignorant, and I will never stoop as low as flaming anyone. but I believe if just for a moment Kayz you would take a few moments of honesty, and really weigh what I am talking about with conviction then and only then you will can alter your one-sided biases. I spent 9 months in Desert Storm/Shield, I spent months in Iraqi Freedom, that's right, and it is NOT the sentiment of the middle or lowly ranked soldiers and Marines to cast there vote for GW. We only needed to Pursue Osama Bin Laden for any type of revenge in such case. We have physically torn a country to pieces because of an OIL pipeline running through Uzbekistan running through Afghanistan. How can you negotiate something like this amid the destruction and death of our WTC's and human beings. Now we switch to Iraq, all of his advisors just 3 months pror stated that they have no WMD, and WPS inspectors were there for years invading all portions of the country.
Also let me tell you about me, I am now a veteran with injuries, that isn't the reason for my feelings about GW because I served this country for 10 years of active service, I went to claim benefits for my injuries that I acquired during my Military stint, and because my wife makes a certain amount of money , I now cannot claim any of my horrible life changing situations. It is owed to me, but there is a clause since GW took over that he didn't tell any fighting vets: If your household makes over 29K a year you cannot apply for benefits you must request a waiver, and I was turned down, but all of my documentation is clear and precise with PROOF... Now I am limited on what type of job that I do and where it is most appropriate for me to work due to my wounds... I bless you Kayz from my heart because i don't cry over it anymore, I don't whine over it anymore I am free in my spirit about these things, but I will keep you in my prayers for general reasons , and not for any criticism j ust becuase you are a bro that I have come into contact with.

Your right Kayz it is all about facts.....

I cannot concern myself for ur preferential vote you have that right but I will not be "hoodwigged or bamboozled" again. LOL LOL

peace

 

[Kayz]

I understand your concerns Viking, but Bush is not to be blamed for outsourcing of jobs. Outsourcing of jobs has been on the books for decades...ever since the government instituted the corporate income taxes. That in and of itself ws a little incentive to move overseas, but not a whole lot as most companies were not competing with foreign investors, companies, and labor. However, when Clinton pushed NAFTA thru (which I agree with), this opened the flood gates for outsouricng....and we are now seeing the effects of that 10 years later.

NAFTA combined with the tax code, gave corporations massive amounts of incentive to move overseas. That cannot be blamed on Bush entirely.

Also, it is a proven fact that many companies who save money by outsourcing a certain percentage of their work force to foreign entities, actually use that savings to hire more people for their domestic facilities. I see this all the time in my business.

Also, as I have posted before, the EPA is the biggest reason companies are starting to outsource as their ridiculous guidelines and fees make it impossible for many companies to operate here in the states. The EPA, especially under Clinton, became a totally self governing body. Congress/Senate will not confront the EPA because no body wants to be labelled as "anti-environement". Teh EPA does as it pleases in this country...and companies are starting to say "screw it,we're out of here." I can tell you of several stories in which I have experienced this first hand. If you'd like to hear them, please tell me and I'll be more than happy to go inot detail here. I know the EPA well as I work closely with them on a daily basis.

And I have to disagree with your statement taht "jobs are very scarce". This simply is not true. This past year, I was trying to hire 6 truck drivers....they started out at about $14/hr with all the over time they can handle plus full benefits, plus mileage. Also, they were NOT over the road but rather home everynight wiht their families. Out of the 6 guys I hired, 1 is still with me. The other 5 were absolutely worthless and simply did NOT want to work!!!

 

[Grizzly]

When the fuck did Bush become responsible for outsourcing? Did I miss when he was elected Monarch? Is he the owner/president of every company in America. How the good goddamn fuck is Bush responsible for outsourcing? I was under the impression that it was the CEO/board of directors/owners of companies that were responsible for the outsourcing. I feel so retarded for having been so mistaken.

 

[vikings]

peace KAYZ, it is much bigger than you and I

 

[Kayz]

When the fuck did Bush become responsible for outsourcing? Did I miss when he was elected Monarch? Is he the owner/president of every company in America. How the good goddamn fuck is Bush responsible for outsourcing? I was under the impression that it was the CEO/board of directors/owners of companies that were responsible for the outsourcing. I feel so retarded for having been so mistaken.

Damn Grizzly, you are a dumbass.....I can't believe you didn't know all that.

Better hope I never become President...'I'm taking over the whole damn world and declaring an empire.

 

[vikings]

Hey grizz it is not that GW bush is responsible for it but he is an advocate of the consistencies to take jobs , good jobs, from America. So whether he is responsible or not he is an advoacate to continue stripping good qualified Americans of there rights. Not only that bro but he will reward these companies with HUGE tax breaks while we(middle class)pay the countries way

 

[Kayz]

Hey grizz it is not that that GW bush is responsible for it but he is an advocate of the consistencies to take jobs , goo jobs, from America. So whether he is responsible or not he is an advoacate to continue stripping good qualified Americans of there rights.

What right???? It is not a natural born right to have a wonderful paying job.....you have to earn it.

Also, I'd argue that Bush is NOT Taking jobs away, but rather the American worker is GIVING them away. Everyone wants to make $50/hr. with full insurance and 3 weeks paid vacation.....but noone wants to pay the higher prices for the goods made by these workers. The same guy bitching about LOSING HIS JOB TO A FOREIGNER is the same guy who shops at Wal-Mart....the biggest outsourcing outfit in the world. Isn't that hypocrisy???

And again, the job of the American government is 2 fold:

1) protect the lives of the US citizens at all cost (that means forgoing the UN if that is in our best interest).

2) inspiring its citizens to work hard and make a good life for their family. But, you have to take the necessary steps to do so.

It is not Bush's responsibility to guarantee everone a job....capitalism does NOT work that way.

 

[vikings]

Peace KAYZ, you own a business bro, you will stay in the way you think until something tragic or horrid happens to you personally!!! Guess what I just asked God that you never have to go through anything mind or life altering.

 

[Bob Smith]

Guys, just be sure to keep these arguements about the issues and not turn it into personal attacks. Thanks. *End of Meso Public Announcement*

Vikings said "I cannot prove [voter] fraud and discrepancies, I know just what the media has found out from the voters that attorneys located at the have voters sites that have witnessed this trevestry."

These people dont have any basis for their claims either. The Democratic party has already began suing in Florida and other districts around the country for voter bias. Puh-lease! Talk about a group that is trying to win the election by litigation rather than by the actual numbers. IMO, they know that Bush is going to win, so they are already trying to turn things around. Not only in the court, but by bringing these baseless claims to the public, they are also hoping to sway voter opinion.

Kayz, good posts as usual.

Since when is the govt in the business of getting me a job? Isnt it my duty to get off my butt and make something of myself? Oh wait, that requires work, which has been statistically proven to be the root cause for most of the poor in this country, they simply do not work. The average poor person works 10 hours per week. You cant tell me there is a shortage of jobs available for people who want one. Most of these poor people are going to be uneducated and I sure as hell know that there are tons of jobs available for them. UPS is one company where they could easily make $12-15/hr plus full benefits. But do they want that? No! Why? Because its hard work! Poor people and work do not go together. Its like oil and water.

As for why I will vote for Bush...lower taxes for everyone, he stands by his principles, he is not afraid to use military force.

BTW, vikings mentioned that most of the military doesnt supprot Bush. Why is it then that every survey of active-duty soldiers shows an overwhelming majority (at least 65%) support and will vote for Bush? That doesnt sound like a group of anti-Bush people to me.

 

[Kayz]

BTW, vikings mentioned that most of the military doesnt supprot Bush. Why is it then that every survey of active-duty soldiers shows an overwhelming majority (at least 65%) support and will vote for Bush? That doesnt sound like a group of anti-Bush people to me.

How can they support Kerry when he truly believes everything is their fault. In his eyes, the UN is perfect and the US is to blame. I'd like for once for Kerry to stand up and say "you know what, we are right here....the UN has no jurisdiction in this matter...in fact, they are corrupt as hell". He needs to give our guys some credit.

He says he supports the troops, but he disagrees with everything they do and how the do it. He tries to hide behind that by blaming Bush for everything....but at the end of the day...it is on the troops.

 

[vikings]

My dearest BOB, I was on the ground with them , I had my weapon pointed in the same direction as them, It also is poplling propaganda about who they are actually polling which makes your findings also FALSE. Let's face it if you want to look at it that way, then that is fine but it really shows me just how many people are truly out of touch. I was out of touch for many years as a Medic, but I watched things occur governmentally. I also have lead debate teams in college and in the military with respect to just how selfish and out of touch Republicans are. Down right money hungry and To many regards, EVIL.
Ladies and Gentlemen, my household makes up to 200K per year, and I say that to say that it is not about cutting taxes or raising them, but i am really connected to many of these issues in personal ways and that is why I am not leaning but i am in the corner opposite of ur opponent.. For me it is too much to discuss but i will eventually post it little at a time.
And you all know that republican seek to remove many of the freedoms of hard working FREE Americans such as; the Patriot Act, that you could not begin to truly understand fully. I have dealt with it already first hand. Not to mention, Michael Moore doesn't just dislike Bush, but he has thoroughly researched and discovered through test and gaining reports from different secretive agencies on the type of Business that Mr Bush performs. All of this isn't just haphazard, it's TRUE.

Not to mention guys I am personally campaigning with the party opposite to you. We all deserve not to be danced-around and decieved, the constitution was created personally for us, "For the People by the People" In Order to form a more PERFECT UNION. No more union here bro, division in this country due to racial, and social divides culturally.
Kayz , you are a business owner i see your stand. Bob Smith, it seems that most of your jobs like FEDx, UPS, USPS, . These are some of the best non degreed jobs with great benefits. Truck drivers, the ovrnight long riders are taxed that's why they keep running viciously into people. I seen personally with my eyes 2 amazing accidents of this magnitude..... It is like oil and water. I am just concerned about the people of this country.


Be blessed guys

 

[vikings]

Absolutely not Kayz, we are wrong, you don't invade a country that has no imminent threat to us or the World. that is why the UN was created to examine and justify whatever action needs to be taken. Retrack in ur mind, I was in uniform over there fighting at the time. My 5'7 230lb frame(that's ripped)LOL LOL just being funny. When we just took it upon ourselves to invade and kill innocent people with no permission or imminent cause. I would have voted to go and get Kim Jung instead in Korea, He is a Mad scientist. People like he and Iran are who I would fear. Saddam even agreed with this man to interview with him. I and many of my counterparts have always discussed these things with the Iraqi people(by standers) when I was there. These people didn't have issues with anyone. We have the issues OIL, $$$$$$ for the rich and Famous.

 

[Kayz]

Absolutely not Kayz, we are wrong, you don't invade a country that has no imminent threat to us or the World. that is why the UN was created to examine and justify whatever action needs to be taken. Retrack in ur mind, I was in uniform over there fighting at the time. My 5'7 230lb frame(that's ripped)LOL LOL just being funny. When we just took it upon ourselves to invade and kill innocent people with no permission or imminent cause. I would have voted to go and get Kim Jung instead in Korea, He is a Mad scientist. People like he and Iran are who I would fear. Saddam even agreed with this man to interview with him. I and many of my counterparts have always discussed these things with the Iraqi people(by standers) when I was there. These people didn't have issues with anyone. We have the issues OIL, $$$$$$ for the rich and Famous.

Dude, the UN is so corrupt we don't even know where to begin. Day after day, more and more info. is coming out supporting the "secret" relationships between Iraq and France/Germany.

The UN is a joke, they can't even monitor their own dealings and their own people (oil for food???), so why would we allow/trust them to "examine and justify whatever action needs to be taken?". The UN has refused to act on N. Korea and Iran. They refuse to step in in Sudan. What in the hell do they do???

Theie weapons inspections and sanctions were a joke because their own people were being bought off by Saddam.....that is a fact father!!!

And you mentioned that you were there "When we just took it upon ourselves to invade and kill innocent people with no permission or imminent cause". What are you talking about. IN 1991, we had the full backing of the UN, including france, germany, and russia.....so what do you mean "we took it upon ourselves". Let's not forget that Saddam invaded Kuwait and raped and killed their women.