Why MESO is tough on sources

[Clamslaps]

Yeah I was kinda surprised those two are still there after the faked report.

Uncle Z is Eastern mafia. They don't give a shit what people think is in their gear or what's actually in it. Anecdotal of course, but when I lived in Europe I was in a country that is extremely difficult to smuggle gear. The big brands were naps, uncle z shit and all his side brands. The guys selling them were almost always Serbs or other Balkan mafia looking types. Have a buddy who got close with one once and let him shoot his auto mp5 out in the boonies, do you have any fucking idea how hard it is to get a full auto in Europe on the black market?

100% all those Balkan labs are mafia.

 

[CompoundLifts31]

I member dat.

I called that the "curve ball" when they did that 4th test differently.

 

[Mdrock98]

I'll go with option 2, but as @BigBaldBeardGuy said this is why it is important that UGLs tests their raws in addition to finished products.
Thankfully Sym tested his recent EQ before putting it for sale because I have heard and seen testing where some of the EQ from China has not been high purity recently.

This is why it is important for UGLs to also hold their raw suppliers accountable, because ultimately they are responsible for the product they put out even if the mix up is on the raws end.

 

[Mdrock98]

Uncle Z is Eastern mafia. They don't give a shit what people think is in their gear or what's actually in it. Anecdotal of course, but when I lived in Europe I was in a country that is extremely difficult to smuggle gear. The big brands were naps, uncle z shit and all his side brands. The guys selling them were almost always Serbs or other Balkan mafia looking types. Have a buddy who got close with one once and let him shoot his auto mp5 out in the boonies, do you have any fucking idea how hard it is to get a full auto in Europe on the black market?

100% all those Balkan labs are mafia.

 

[Mdrock98]

Well... it’s an illegal enterprise. As much as we would like to picture Walter White providing for the future welfare of his family as he battles cancer, that’s not always the case. It’s much more likely that we’re getting Jesse Pinkman, an underachiever that fucks up everything else in his life so can’t hold a normal full-time job.

They aren’t all bad, but based on the testing results for Praetorian it looks like they just flat out sucked at making gear. From what I understand, Praetorian didn’t actually make the gear, they just bottled and sold it. So whoever they were getting it from was fucking them over and in turn fucking the end user. Maybe that douchey rep was doing a product shuffle before he resold his vials. Who knows.

Caps and tabs are often fucked up because the maker has no idea what they’re doing. That’s why compounds like arimidex where you’re taking small doses of 0.5 mg should be entrusted to pharmaceutical manufacturers.

And ultimately, the raw materials are coming from Mr. Chinaman a half a world away. If he labels the powder tub and it’s the wrong shit, it’s not always going thru thorough QA/QC check. Think of how many middlemen might be involved before benevolent Brewer guy gets it. There’s so much that can go wrong even before our resident meth-head gets his 250 gram pack of powder. Now imagine what his inventory room and brewing “lab” looks like never mind his attention to detail after being geeked out for 3 days.

Some UGLs are good and some are nothing more than career felons that are looking to make a buck. Some nod off and get arrested in the parking lot of the post office making a drop. Isn’t that right @Cakedup?

You have no way of knowing what’s going on at the other end. Pssst... for OPSEC purposes some UGLs don’t necessarily tell the whole truth all the time. So don’t believe what they tell you and make sure you read. A lot of what we do relies purely on trust. It’s just whether the UGL proves deserving of that trust. Always hold them accountable for what they do. It’s business, not a personal relationship.

True. Got to be street smart out here.

 

[janoshik]

Uncle Z is Eastern mafia. They don't give a shit what people think is in their gear or what's actually in it. Anecdotal of course, but when I lived in Europe I was in a country that is extremely difficult to smuggle gear. The big brands were naps, uncle z shit and all his side brands. The guys selling them were almost always Serbs or other Balkan mafia looking types. Have a buddy who got close with one once and let him shoot his auto mp5 out in the boonies, do you have any fucking idea how hard it is to get a full auto in Europe on the black market?

100% all those Balkan labs are mafia.

Not too hard, we've had thousands of vz. 58 floating all over the place

 

[Dthcore]

Not too hard, we've had thousands of vz. 58 floating all over the place

Yeah! What JanoSkeet said!! <3

 

[jerseydevil228]

What in God's name are you talking about.

He's like Fucking sixty years old lol. He doesn't give a shit about free gear lol.

Close to 70 actually. He still does trt.

 

[Clamslaps]

Not too hard, we've had thousands of vz. 58 floating all over the place

Bruh if you can get me an R9 arms machine pistol I'd be so happy. It's for my daughter's birthday.

 

[janoshik]

Bruh if you can get me an R9 arms machine pistol I'd be so happy. It's for my daughter's birthday.

Sure, just get me a manufacturer contact

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Update:

Never mind, we’re not “tough” on sources. We’re actually very sympathetic. Lots of well-wishes to the sources suffering from “health issues”. MESO is a bunch of kittens now.

I’ll get the gofundme page started for the floral arrangements and balloons. If there’s any money leftover we can divey it out for kids pizza birthday parties.

 

[CompoundLifts31]

Close to 70 actually. He still does trt.

Ok so why'd he ban me prior to me being banned for source info?
He obviously has some motive when it comes to Feral.
@Montego2 can chime in on this as well.
I'm interested to see what these guys will say.

 

[CompoundLifts31]

Close to 70 actually. He still does trt.

Because he is old and rich, he has NO motives whatsoever at ASF?

 

[janoshik]

Update:

Never mind, we’re not “tough” on sources. We’re actually very sympathetic. Lots of well-wishes to the sources suffering from “health issues”. MESO is a bunch of kittens now.

I’ll get the gofundme page started for the floral arrangements and balloons. If there’s any money leftover we can divey it out for kids pizza birthday parties.

I think it's rather good when people are nice to each other.

As long as people stay critical.

The goal is not to be tough, the goal is to be critical, r-right brochacho?

 

[Villain]

Update:

Never mind, we’re not “tough” on sources. We’re actually very sympathetic. Lots of well-wishes to the sources suffering from “health issues”. MESO is a bunch of kittens now.

I’ll get the gofundme page started for the floral arrangements and balloons. If there’s any money leftover we can divey it out for kids pizza birthday parties.

I didn’t realize wishing someone well was such a pussy thing to do, I just thought it was common decency, source or not.

 

[Clamslaps]

Update:

Never mind, we’re not “tough” on sources. We’re actually very sympathetic. Lots of well-wishes to the sources suffering from “health issues”. MESO is a bunch of kittens now.

I’ll get the gofundme page started for the floral arrangements and balloons. If there’s any money leftover we can divey it out for kids pizza birthday parties.

Bro there's a difference. "Family issues/surgery/fucking depression" can be a valid excuse, could also mean you got raided by the feds and they need time to build a honey pot, could mean you're a bitch who overshot his supply capabilities and ran out of money. I'm gonna be sympathetic until proven otherwise, I'm sure as fuck not ordering until we've got evidence, and if that evidence isn't in your favor I'm not making any excuses for you. Customer service and mutual respect can exist in the underworld.

 

[Mdrock98]

Bro there's a difference. "Family issues/surgery/fucking depression" can be a valid excuse, could also mean you got raided by the feds and they need time to build a honey pot, could mean you're a bitch who overshot his supply capabilities and ran out of money. I'm gonna be sympathetic until proven otherwise, I'm sure as fuck not ordering until we've got evidence, and if that evidence isn't in your favor I'm not making any excuses for you. Customer service and mutual respect can exist in the underworld.

Bro. Nice.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Bro there's a difference. "Family issues/surgery/fucking depression" can be a valid excuse, could also mean you got raided by the feds and they need time to build a honey pot, could mean you're a bitch who overshot his supply capabilities and ran out of money. I'm gonna be sympathetic until proven otherwise, I'm sure as fuck not ordering until we've got evidence, and if that evidence isn't in your favor I'm not making any excuses for you. Customer service and mutual respect can exist in the underworld.

I didn’t realize wishing someone well was such a pussy thing to do, I just thought it was common decency, source or not.

Like I said, “Meow”.

These guys aren’t your buddies. That was the whole point of MESO up until recently. We don’t NEED sources. If they take time off, great, they can do what they want.

But we got dudes sitting shiva waiting for them to come back. That’s fucked up. That’s when they can take advantage and pull an exit scam or dose shit product. You can’t hold a source accountable and then send him a Get Well Soon card.

You think your drug dealer would do the same for you? That’s not the kind of relationship you should be having here.

 

[cochino]

Bro there's a difference. "Family issues/surgery/fucking depression" can be a valid excuse, could also mean you got raided by the feds and they need time to build a honey pot, could mean you're a bitch who overshot his supply capabilities and ran out of money. I'm gonna be sympathetic until proven otherwise, I'm sure as fuck not ordering until we've got evidence, and if that evidence isn't in your favor I'm not making any excuses for you. Customer service and mutual respect can exist in the underworld.

I think it's the swapping kisses in the shower that bothers @BigBaldBeardGuy . There's definitely some of that going on here. Nothing wrong with being nice and wishing someone well but some go way beyond that.

 

[Silentlemon1011]

Like I said, “Meow”.

These guys aren’t your buddies. That was the whole point of MESO up until recently. We don’t NEED sources. If they take time off, great, they can do what they want.

But we got dudes sitting shiva waiting for them to come back. That’s fucked up. That’s when they can take advantage and pull an exit scam or dose shit product. You can’t hold a source accountable and then send him a Get Well Soon card.

You think your drug dealer would do the same for you? That’s not the kind of relationship you should be having here.

Lol
This.

They're drug dealers
I trust them about as far as I can throw them.

A "Solid gtg" lab can exit scam or get a new retard brewer that contaminates the gear in a moments notice.

When I blasted rails of blow everyday, I didnt send flowers and strawberries to my coke dealer.

Why I would I do that for my steroid dealer?