Workout Routines

Leg day for me as well....

Will start out with a few leg ext to loosen my knees up.

Then proceed to squats. Doing maybe 4-5 warm up sets, then 3 working sets of 20 reps.

Then probably leg presses followed by more leg ext.

Things are subject to change as always. Maybe superset squats and leg presses, who knows.

20 rep sets for squat is extremely impressive, sounds like there is plenty of intensity in your leg day.

Your leg day sounds similar to mine, with leg ext and squats being your primary lifts, which is basically how I have mine setup.

I find I really only need to do front squat and some leg ext. to fully train my quads. Nice and simple routine.
 
If you've never tried 20 rep sets, they'll take your legs to another level. We used to superset 20 rep squats and 15 rep leg presses. Now that's crazy stuff! Make you wanna throw up... Fun times, lol
 
I just added squats to my leg day last week. I'm so weak at them I avoided them.. Ya I know completely counterproductive. Now leg day looks like this

Squats
1 warm up set
3-4 sets trying for 6-10 reps, adding 10lbs each set

Leg press 3-4 sets 8-10 reps
Leg ext 3-4 sets 8-10 reps
Seated calf raise 3-4 sets 15-20 reps
Standing calf 3-4 sets 15-20 reps

I also do abs on leg day
Ab crunch machine 4 sets 12 reps
Weighted crunch 3 sets 12 reps
Hanging leg lift 4 sets 12 reps
 
Leg day- 6 sets squat. Pyramid up then down. High rep to low. Low to high,
Deadlift- 4 sets, sometimes I use the triangle bar.(think that's what it's called)
Vertical leg press- 3 sets/ reg. leg press
Finish with leg ext or some lunges. Whatever I'm in the mood for.
Sometimes I swap out deadlifts for front squat. Either way I have trouble getting down the stairs once i get home. :D
 
I love doing 20 reps for legs especially when you follow up with leg press or just some walking lunges. High rep squats will bring your physique to a new level. I like to switch things up but nowadays I usually stick to higher reps, in general. I grow fast with high reps and don't get injured due to the lighter weight. Stretch, squeeze, stretch, squeeze.
 
Ok..... Just got home from my leg workout. Supersetted squats (195 pounds) 20 reps with leg press, 15 reps with 4 plates on each side. Did that 3 times. Barely made the last set... Brutal! Then went over to a Cybex leg press and did 3 sets of 20 reps of single leg presses, 2 plates on each side. Finished quads off with 3 slow strict sets of leg ext, 15 reps each set.

I left it all there..., have to go back and do hamstrings on a couple days.
 
Whats everyone's leg day look like? I am hitting legs tonight. This is what I do for legs:

Romanian Deadlifts

60 Total Reps. Short Rest Periods with 10 reps in my first set and 6-10 in the subsequent sets.

Front Squat

Around 50 total reps. First set I get about 6-8 reps in, and around 5 reps in the following sets. Rest periods end up getting longer towards the end of the lift due to oxygen depletion.

I do these with a 45lb plate underneath my heels, kind of like what Dave Draper is doing in this pic:

davedraper10.jpg


I used to use 5lb plates underneath my shoes when I did these but I switched to 45 per a friends recommendation and it certainly feels better.

I have a narrow stance when doing these and I go for maximal depth on every rep.

These two lifts take me around an hour or so to complete with the amount of volume I do for them, and because I do so much volume there really isn't a need to do a lot of extra lifts for legs. I wrap things up with some isolation movements.

Single Leg. Leg Extensions
Single Leg. Leg Curls


and If I'm feeling up for it I do a few sets of seated calf raises.

Good info on the front squat. I've never done them because I had no idea as far as form goes. Maybe Ill mix them in my routine. Btw, this high volume ppl is the shit. I almost puke everyday at the gym now :)
 
I love doing 20 reps for legs especially when you follow up with leg press or just some walking lunges. High rep squats will bring your physique to a new level. I like to switch things up but nowadays I usually stick to higher reps, in general. I grow fast with high reps and don't get injured due to the lighter weight. Stretch, squeeze, stretch, squeeze.

I did high rep squats yesterday. My gym is upstairs. After my workout it was pretty shady walking down those stairs. I've been doing low reps/heavy weight for awhile now. Im hoping this high volume training will help me get more defined.
 
Good info on the front squat. I've never done them because I had no idea as far as form goes. Maybe Ill mix them in my routine. Btw, this high volume ppl is the shit. I almost puke everyday at the gym now :)

Awesome to hear that the PPL routine is working out for you. How long on average are you resting between sets? Sounds like you have the intensity down pat.
 
I just added squats to my leg day last week. I'm so weak at them I avoided them.. Ya I know completely counterproductive. Now leg day looks like this

Squats
1 warm up set
3-4 sets trying for 6-10 reps, adding 10lbs each set

Leg press 3-4 sets 8-10 reps
Leg ext 3-4 sets 8-10 reps
Seated calf raise 3-4 sets 15-20 reps
Standing calf 3-4 sets 15-20 reps

I also do abs on leg day
Ab crunch machine 4 sets 12 reps
Weighted crunch 3 sets 12 reps
Hanging leg lift 4 sets 12 reps

I used to avoid squats too. You will soon love them and adding alot more weight in due time. Its a great full body workout.
 
Awesome to hear that the PPL routine is working out for you. How long on average are you resting between sets? Sounds like you have the intensity down pat.

I try and watch the clock as much as possible. I weight train for 1 hour. In the beginning of my workout I wait about 15 to 20 seconds. About 30mins into my workout Im about 30 to 45 secs depending on the workout. I take longer rests while doing squats, maybe 1 minute between sets. What is a good rest time between sets?
 
I try and watch the clock as much as possible. I weight train for 1 hour. In the beginning of my workout I wait about 15 to 20 seconds. About 30mins into my workout Im about 30 to 45 secs depending on the workout. I take longer rests while doing squats, maybe 1 minute between sets. What is a good rest time between sets?

I actually used to do all of my volume using strict rest pause. I would do around 50-60 total reps for all of my lifts. My first set I would do 10 reps close to failure and then rest 15-30 seconds, aiming for around 3-5 reps per set (more on isolation exercises) till I reach my total rep goal for that lift.

As my volume and exercise selection increased I scaled back the amount of rest pause work I did, so now I essentially do a combination of RP, short rests, and straight sets, so some lifts I rest 15-30 seconds, some around 45, and others 60-90 seconds between sets.

My workouts tend to run around 2.5 hours.

For rest times I would consider 15-30 seconds as rest pause.

30-60 seconds I would call short rest periods

and 60-90 seconds I consider just plain straight sets.

The only lifts I consistently do with strict rest pause anymore are weighted dips and weighted chinups. Most other lifts I just do straight sets or use short rests.

Rest pause really is the best way to go because when the tension is constant it increases to efficacy of the volume/reps you do. You can halve someones workload and increase its effectiveness if you do the majority of the volume rest pause style.

If my workouts were an hour long I would actually do everything strict rest pause. Its intense, difficult, but fuck if it doesn't facilitate some crazy strength and size gains.

You should give it a try sometime. Some people like to use exact seconds when doing RP training. I take a simpler approach, I rest just long enough to get 3-5 reps in the subsequent sets. Sometimes that's 10 seconds, sometimes 30-45, but its still effective because of the constant tension.

Fatigue is a huge factor, but I haven't had any issues with recovery or injury and I began using this method of training when I basically first started lifting. I've since tapered off its use but I would attribute most of my initial progress to rest periods of about 30 seconds in between each set.

Here is how I would structure a PUSH day If I wanted to get the most out of it and be out in an hour or so.

PUSH

Weighted Dips 50 Total Reps

First Set: 8-10 Reps
Rest 15-30 seconds in between each set and repeat until you reach 50 reps
(Adjust rest periods if you are getting too little or too many reps in the rest pause sets. 3-5 reps is ideal. 4-5 feels nice and safe for me when doing weighted dips)
Incline Barbell Bench 50 Total Reps
First Set 6-8 Reps
Keep the rest periods short, around 30 sec. I usually get about 5 reps per set. I wouldn't consider these strict rest pause, but def. short rest periods.
Pec Deck Fly 50 Total Reps
First Set 10 Reps
These are easy. Use strict rest pause until you get 50 reps. 15-30 seconds, as many reps as you can in each set.
Lateral Raise
First Set 10-15 Reps
EXTREMELY short rest periods here. I do these resting about 10-15 seconds in between each set. Do a set to/close to failure, put down the dumbbells, collect your breath, try and fight through the pain of the lactic acid, pick them up, and go again :)
Rope Pressdown
First Set 10 Reps
Again, strict rest pause with 15-30 second rest in between each set. Even when I use extremely short rest periods I still find I can get close to 10 reps in the following sets, so this one is fairly easy. Bring each set as close to failure as you can.
Single Arm Rope Pressdown
First set: Anywhere from 15-30 is good.
Alternate from left arm to right with almost no rest. Assist yourself with your other hand when needed. I like getting close to 20 reps in each set. The lactic acid build up is unreal. Do about 5 sets per hand. Its very easy to give up too early on these, but if you push through you will find these to be extremely effective for building your triceps and getting an ungodly pump.

To get the most of this routine, you need to constantly be getting stronger in your main lifts, in this case Dips & Incline. Always progressive overload whenever you can, getting really strong for a 8-10RM is the easiest way for most of us without access to large amounts of drugs or amazing genetics to grow.
 
Last edited:
I forgot about the tread, I have a lot of training routines I've tried and personal ideas that I've experienced I will hopefully include when I get some spare time. glad it got bumped back up. I feel training is a big component and one we have control over in our progress.
 
No time to type stuff out so I'll post links to some routines I liked with brief explanation. Had it not been for the Bill starr's routines I probably wouldn't have ever put on size when I was a teen I used to do flex magazine routines and gained nothing.

Bill Starrs 5x5: (Great beginner routine builds a solid foundation) http://oldschooltrainer.com/bill-starrs-5-x-5-training/

Push, Pull, Leg: Pretty basic don't have a link used this when I started becoming to volume hungry and to take a step back to the basics

Layne Norton Power Hyperthrophy: (Closest I'll get to a bodybuilder split again as they dont' work for me. I only use this routine when I have a joint issue that I'm trying to get over.)
http://www.simplyshredded.com/mega-...ll-powerhypertrophy-routine-updated-2011.html

Doggcrapp (My favorite routine I do this every other routine): http://dc-training.blogspot.com/

Myo-Reps (good routine to pull heavy weight without losing form): http://borgefagerli.com/myo-reps-in-english/

Dorian Yates Blood and Guts (Would do this routine more but don't have a solid partner): http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/dorian-yates-blood-guts-1.htm

High Performance Mass(Currently just started this routine today seemed interesting and a change of pace don't think it'll get the best results but will proably burn some fat will let you know how it goes): http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/look_like_a_bodybuilder_perform_like_an_athlete

Routines I'll give a try in the future:

HST (There is a good tread on this routine right here on Meso much better then this shitty link) : http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/wotw39.htm

Demon Training (I'll need a workout partner but it seems brutal and I like brutality: http://muscleandbrawn.com/beyond-failure-training-the-trevor-l-smith-manifesto/


to be continued work calls:
 
Here is my current routine:
Monday- back and shoulders
Tuesday- legs
Wednesday- chest and arms

Repeated with Sunday being the off day.

BACK AND SHOULDERS
Weighted wide grip pull ups 8x8
Yates rows 3x12
Seated rows 3x12
DB military press 5x8
SUPERSET upright rows 3x15 DB rows 3x15
Rear delt flies 3x12
Lateral raises 3x12

LEGS
Leg press 8x8
Squats 5x8
Superset Leg ext 3x15 Leg curls 3x15
Donkey Calf raises 3x15
Seated Calf raises DROP SETS 5x10

CHEST AND ARMS
Flat bench 5x8
Db incline 3x12
Weighted dips 3x12
Pec deck 3x15
All arm excercises are supersets
Spider curls 3x12
Tri ext 3x12
Hammer curls 3x12
Tri pressdown 3x12

I usually rest 30-60seconds between sets that aren't supersets. Sometimes longer on leg days if I feel I need it. Gonna continue this till I finish my cycle then switch over to HST. My body seems to respond better when I train muscle groups at least twice a week.
 
Your exercise selection looks good furious. Especially the number of exercises you do. Volume looks good as well.

Instead of alternating lifts, I would recommend you pick your 2-3 major lifts and do those ones every time you train back, rather than alternating or swapping them out. Progressive overload is very important for long term progress and the more frequently you do your lifts the better. Change for the sake of change isn't always wise, I think its better to stick to 2-3 major lifts per muscle and get as strong as you can rather than continuously changing exercise selection.

I went into more detail about this in another thread but I believe you only really need 3 kinds of movements to fully address your upper back development.

A vertical pull
for lat development

A Horizontal Row
for middle back / rhomboids

A Reverse fly
for rear delts

So to start off I would find 1 lift for each of these movements and incorporate that as the main part of my back routine. Once you have your lifts down you can start adding other lifts for variety or extra volume, but stick with 2-3 lifts CONSISTENTLY and focus on getting stronger in them.

My thoughts on your choices:

Your horizontal rows are actually pretty good. I am personally not a huge fan of barbell b-over rows, too much legs middle back and body English.

Dumbbell Rows are solid but I think doing them 2 arms at a time is more ideal for symmetrical reasons. Its also wise to support yourself on your chest (lying on a bench) when doing these so you can reduce body english and take your lower back out of the equation.

So my suggestion is pick a vertical pull a horizontal row and a reverse fly. Do these 3 lifts every time you do back and keep them in your routine / back day permanently and focus on getting really strong in them.

You should also add in additional lifts as well, like an extra row or an extra pull, just for variety and volume.

Here's a good way to structure your back day that gives you plenty of volume and room for additional exercise variety.

Vertical Pull
Another Vertical Pull Excercise
Horizontal Row
Reverse Fly

Another Horizontal Row
Bicep Isolation

Here are some exercises that I find place a little more emphasis on overall arm growth

Vertical Pulls: Chin-Ups, Wide Grip Pull Ups
Horizontal Rows: Chest Supported Row (Machine), Chest Supported Dumbbell Row, Seated Row (Neutral Grip), Inverted Row
Reverse Fly: Reverse Pec Deck Fly, Rear Delt Flys, Lying Incline Rear Delt Flys

My back day looks like:

Weighted Chin Up
Weighted Pull Up
Wide Grip Pull Up (BW)
Chest Supported Dumbbell Row
Reverse Pec Deck Fly
Neutral grip Seated Rows
Lying Cable Curl


Weighted Chin Ups and Chest Supported Rows and my rear delt fly are my main lifts for back. I added in extra lifts for variety and to increase volume but most of my results come from Weighted Chin Ups and Chest Supported Rows.

@weighted chinup Ive been incorporating this improved back workout and I have to say I really like it

Been doing
Chin-up
Wide grip pull-up
Seated rows
pec dec rear delt

Man do I feel it. Im not quite up to weighted chin-ups but soon. Im doing BW sets of 10,8 and 5's. Im really weak at the wide grip pullups, Im only getting sets of 4 but I just keep at them until I hit my rep goal, which is 20 right now.

I went to try the chest supported rows on an incline bench but I'll have to admit, I ended up not doing it, I couldnt figure out how to get on the bench with the weights. LOL ya I know totally rookie time.

I'll watch some videos on it.

Thanks again man, really appreciate it
 
@weighted chinup Ive been incorporating this improved back workout and I have to say I really like it

Been doing
Chin-up
Wide grip pull-up
Seated rows
pec dec rear delt

Man do I feel it. Im not quite up to weighted chin-ups but soon. Im doing BW sets of 10,8 and 5's. Im really weak at the wide grip pullups, Im only getting sets of 4 but I just keep at them until I hit my rep goal, which is 20 right now.

I went to try the chest supported rows on an incline bench but I'll have to admit, I ended up not doing it, I couldnt figure out how to get on the bench with the weights. LOL ya I know totally rookie time.

I'll watch some videos on it.

Thanks again man, really appreciate it

I've been taking his advice too and only two weeks in Im making gains in strength and endurance and seeing my body comp get leaner and more built. It was super hard at first but starting to get used to it. The chest supported rows are kind of akward at first, you just gotta ease into it. Wide grip is hard too get alot of reps in for me too. Its going to be awhile till I do anything weighted beyond my body weight.
 
Back
Top