Would you ever do a cycle if you we unable to pull bloods...

[Synthetic1]

I am finding it very difficult to pull bloods where i live..I know that getting bloods is the base of a cycle.. went to the lab where bloods are drawn, they only accept requests from doctors...Tried to get a blood test from my doctor without giving too much up denied. Told doc I feel tired, low sex drive, moody, i asked if it could possibly be from low t. Doc recommended a sleep study. I guess my last resort would be to go a endo or trt doc and get tested

 

[ickyrica]

About 95% of the people on meso dont get blood tests

 

[Inquiring Mind]

I am finding it very difficult to pull bloods where i live..I know that getting bloods is the base of a cycle.. went to the lab where bloods are drawn, they only accept requests from doctors...Tried to get a blood test from my doctor without giving too much up denied. Told doc I feel tired, low sex drive, moody, i asked if it could possibly be from low t. Doc recommended a sleep study. I guess my last resort would be to go a endo or trt doc and get tested

Your Primary is gonna our you on Androgel at best..they really don’t have the training or experience with TRT. You really should ask for an endocrinologist referral, otherwise got to a Anti-aging or Men’s health clinic, they are basically legal hormone pushers.

 

[Synthetic1]

Unfortunately we only have 2 lab centers and they dont accept on line tests...they have their own scripts/test that docs fill out.

 

[Synthetic1]

@ickyrica...thats true... I am also one of them without bloods..I am almost mid cycle and wanted to pull bloods to see whats up been on 720mg test e week and front loaded..Gains and strength been ok, very little sides as far as sex drive, libido, mood, energy...

 

[Sp2.0]

I usually get bloods but I've done it without.
Even if it's a pain in the ass it's always better to get them.

 

[MindlessWork]

I've skipped the pre-cycle test and got the mid-cycle one to help spot problems so that I can make adjustments.

 

[ickyrica]

I've skipped the pre-cycle test and got the mid-cycle one to help spot problems so that I can make adjustments.

Your adjustment is more Midol. We know what kind of cycles you have.

 

[Synthetic1]

Adding dbol and wanted to monitor e2..At this moment i am not taking any ai..I have pharm grade adex, aromasin and letro on hand..May think about bumping up the test...maybe somewhere in the 800 mg range...

 

[Fryguy]

I've never used any, but there are a few services that offer self at home collection and analysis via mail. Pretty gnarly to collect at home though...

 

[MindlessWork]

Your adjustment is more Midol. We know what kind of cycles you have.

Really funny thank you very much!

 

[Roco Bama]

I've skipped the pre-cycle test and got the mid-cycle one to help spot problems so that I can make adjustments.

have many cycles have you ran so far ?

 

[MindlessWork]

have many cycles have you ran so far ?

2 and planning a 3rd.

 

[Gbunk]

I would not run a cycle without bloods unless I have ran bloods on the compound before and can at least make an educated guess on where to dose ancillaries. That’s just me, I like feeling safe and I’d rather be safe than sorry in this game.

 

[MindlessWork]

I would not run a cycle without bloods unless I have ran bloods on the compound before and can at least make an educated guess on where to dose ancillaries. That’s just me, I like feeling safe and I’d rather be safe than sorry in this game.

I wouldn't go totally without running bloods and I feel the mid-cycle one is a must to see where you stand and if there's anything amiss such as higher liver values for example or if your lipids are getting trashed. Of course e2 and prolactin levels need to be monitored.

 

[Gbunk]

I wouldn't go totally without running bloods and I feel the mid-cycle one is a must to see where you stand and if there's anything amiss such as higher liver values for example or if your lipids are getting trashed. Of course e2 and prolactin levels need to be monitored.

I’m saying if I do. I will personally always get bloods.

 

[Btcowboy]

I am finding it very difficult to pull bloods where i live..I know that getting bloods is the base of a cycle.. went to the lab where bloods are drawn, they only accept requests from doctors...Tried to get a blood test from my doctor without giving too much up denied. Told doc I feel tired, low sex drive, moody, i asked if it could possibly be from low t. Doc recommended a sleep study. I guess my last resort would be to go a endo or trt doc and get tested

I am assuming your from Canada, as am I and I know getting bloods are almost impossible here for our purposes. I was able to go to a "wellness" clinic here and get checked for low T. I ended up low end of what the consider normal. If I went to my GP and got it nothing would have been done as I am technically normal. However the wellness doc put me on HCG 2000iu/week and Raloxifene 60mg/day. So I was able to get my baseline bloods. although the appointments were 50/visit, 300 for the blood work and HCG was 180/5 weeks, and the Ralox was 30/60 tabs. None of this covered by insurance.

I have not found a place yet that will pull my bloods to check what I want checked for except the wellness clinic, the problem with that though is your bloodwork is kept on your permanent medical record. So if on blast will show elevated T which could be an issue with medical/life insurance. Need to find an anonymous place.

To your question I have heard of a place that you order a saliva test. Follow the instructions with it and send to the US. They test it and send you the results. I am mid cycle now and have not done this yet but looking at it.
Kit at balance your body naturally
Send to ZRT labs.

I dont know if it works, they exist, or they will even send you the kit without a consult first.

 

[Rosconow]

I second the bull shit medical system in Canada. So nanny state its ridiculous. I lucked out and got a urologist with endocrinology training. Bloods every 6m.

But at least in Canuckistan, we can have gear for personal use without fear of jail...

 

[Seven]

2 and planning a 3rd.

What piece of shit lab is giving you a free cycle this time?

 

[master.on]

I am finding it very difficult to pull bloods where i live..I know that getting bloods is the base of a cycle.. went to the lab where bloods are drawn, they only accept requests from doctors...Tried to get a blood test from my doctor without giving too much up denied. Told doc I feel tired, low sex drive, moody, i asked if it could possibly be from low t. Doc recommended a sleep study. I guess my last resort would be to go a endo or trt doc and get tested

Stick to no-Testosterone tests if you can't get estradiol bloodwork.

Something like 1g EQ/Mast/Primo/Deca or combo, Anadrol 25-50 mg in the last 4-6 weeks.
HCG 150-200 IU per week, split as much as you can.

Avoid Dianabol, because of gyno concerns.
If you must use Dbol, use Nolva (tamoxifen) to block its estrogen derivative.

Monitor your blood pressure, daily if needed.

Try to get hematocrit, hemoglobin general bloodwork. Just tell your doctor that you feel tired and want to rule out anemia.
If you can't get hematocrit bloodwork, at least donate blood twice during the cycle.

About 95% of the people on meso dont get blood tests

... and lots of gyno as a result.

BTW what happened to your 'vatar @ickyrica ?