Would you inject this (pics)

So you would pin it? I agree with @Notits in that I want what I paid for but not sure I'd make a federal case over it. I just put one of the crashed bottles in the microwave, looks fine. I'll see what it looks like in the morning. Frank should still answer up on the issue.

Nah honestly you shouldn't have to re heat your vials of its crashed and is it even safe to inject gear when it's crashed after heating it up? (To me that doesn't seem safe)
 
I don't spend time keeping up with source drama here, but this is not the first pharmacom related concern I've read about recently. Seems no consensus on whether this is crashed or not, but either way whats up with this and how are they responding?

Let's remember that sources here in the past, even those with big cheer squads, went bad. They all followed a similar path. Perfection for a solid period, then some misses and slower communication. Continued fuck ups, but sales remained ok because people didn't want to believe things were going bad. Followed by the BOGO, and then soon enough gone or run out.

Plenty of guys here seen this more than me, so watch this space. Meso separates itself from other boards in the way it holds sources to account. Why would pharmacom be any different. They don't give a fuck about anything but making money. Remembering that should set the standard on what they produce and how they need to respond to concerns raised
 
BTW just in case some one is wondering how it feels like to pin something that is crashed....

I did it in my legs which are way more sensitive and actually react badly to everything (hence why I never pin my legs again) but you'll heat it up and get it to mix and everything and the pinning goes smoothly. Then after a an hours or so you'll slowly start feeling a sore feeling coming on, then it gets really sore. You feel like you had to most brutal workout of you life mix with having a feeling on knots in your muscles...except they are not knots they are crystals from the oils. The feeling is there for days, you are in pain, you hate yourself, you'll hate life, and then it goes away.

So unless you are in middle of a cycle and need oils and have more on the way, don't pin it. And also I think you should be given a few free bottles from your provider since they gave you crashed ones and oils are super cheap to produce.
 
BTW just in case some one is wondering how it feels like to pin something that is crashed....

I did it in my legs which are way more sensitive and actually react badly to everything (hence why I never pin my legs again) but you'll heat it up and get it to mix and everything and the pinning goes smoothly. Then after a an hours or so you'll slowly start feeling a sore feeling coming on, then it gets really sore. You feel like you had to most brutal workout of you life mix with having a feeling on knots in your muscles...except they are not knots they are crystals from the oils. The feeling is there for days, you are in pain, you hate yourself, you'll hate life, and then it goes away.

So unless you are in middle of a cycle and need oils and have more on the way, don't pin it. And also I think you should be given a few free bottles from your provider since they gave you crashed ones and oils are super cheap to produce.

Is this because the gear crashed inside your muclscle ?
 
BTW just in case some one is wondering how it feels like to pin something that is crashed....

I did it in my legs which are way more sensitive and actually react badly to everything (hence why I never pin my legs again) but you'll heat it up and get it to mix and everything and the pinning goes smoothly. Then after a an hours or so you'll slowly start feeling a sore feeling coming on, then it gets really sore. You feel like you had to most brutal workout of you life mix with having a feeling on knots in your muscles...except they are not knots they are crystals from the oils. The feeling is there for days, you are in pain, you hate yourself, you'll hate life, and then it goes away.

So unless you are in middle of a cycle and need oils and have more on the way, don't pin it. And also I think you should be given a few free bottles from your provider since they gave you crashed ones and oils are super cheap to produce.
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Heating shit up? It's going to crash again if the actual solvent ratios aren't corrected. And if it's in the muscle when it does crash again - and it will - you are going to be sorry.
Heating up the oil is a bandaid.
 
another question that arises, what the hell is @Pharmacom Labs role in this whole process? the website is automated, production is automated. if it's just to answer questions and Rep for them, why does he disappear during these promos/sales?
 
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Heating shit up? It's going to crash again if the actual solvent ratios aren't corrected. And if it's in the muscle when it does crash again - and it will - you are going to be sorry.
Heating up the oil is a bandaid.

It's slowly crashing again after hearing.

Would It help if I add some gso and heat?

3 of 7 vials are like that w the white shit. The other 4 are clear.
 
It's slowly crashing again after hearing.

Would It help if I add some gso and heat?

3 of 7 vials are like that w the white shit. The other 4 are clear.
Yes, it will keep crashing. It would be helpful if you knew how much bb they used. If you do add anything to your gear it must be REFILTERED.
Is it the gear crashing?
OR IS IT A FILLER/IMPURITY crashing you don't know!!!!!
People need to think before they start assuming that any source gives a flying fuck about the customer.
You don't need to add anything to your gear, you need to throw it the fuck out and get better shit.
 
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It's slowly crashing again after hearing.

Would It help if I add some gso and heat?

3 of 7 vials are like that w the white shit. The other 4 are clear.

They fucked up that batch I'm 99% sure from what I'm seeing and reading. Maybe not enough solvent? Have you PM'd them?
 
Not to mention, if I'm right, just a reminder that if one ingredient is off in dosage in the batch, all the others are as well. I would not pin it and send it back to them, wait to see a lab test on it or on a vial from that batch. It's just not worth it to pin under or over dosed gear... for all you know it might even be contaminated with a foreign substance
 
Not to mention, if I'm right, just a reminder that if one ingredient is off in dosage in the batch, all the others are as well. I would not pin it and send it back to them, wait to see a lab test on it or on a vial from that batch. It's just not worth it to pin under or over dosed gear..
If you have a source dumb enough to facilitate a return, your in way deeper shit than just having poorly brewed gear.
 
Why would I source who wants to maintain a loyal customer base not accept a return on a fucked up product, if it is indeed fucked up product? Shit happens. I'm using pcom's gear but not NPP... many people have gottengood gear, quite a few here have gotten crashed gear. but this, Idk what's going on here.
 
Why would I source who wants to maintain a loyal customer base not accept a return on a fucked up product, if it is indeed fucked up product? Shit happens. I'm using pcom's gear but not NPP... many people have gottengood gear, quite a few here have gotten crashed gear. but this, Idk what's going on here.
All LE would have to do is order gear. Send it back. Make some arrests
 
Ah, I'm not thinking today sorry guys... ask for a re-shipment. I think Frank's done that for a few people in the basicstero thread. I haven't checked all of my vials yet but the few I've opened and pinned have been okay.. I see NPP crashes a lot.. makes me debate on ever using it. I love tren personally.. guess patience and waiting for feedback from them is what needs to be done :/
 
Why would I source who wants to maintain a loyal customer base not accept a return on a fucked up product, if it is indeed fucked up product?
"Ok im sorry your product was not to your liking, i will trust that you know the best way to send the steroids back to me in the mail without risking a controlled delivery or compromising my umteen hundreds of thousands of dollars underground operation. Here's the address."
Any source that would do this should be burned at the stake. Why wouldn't law enforcement use this tactic? Even if it was a third party receiver, it would be some poor sucker they could squeeze, maybe get closer to the real deal, no?
Think about your current source doing shit like this? My stomach would be in fucking knotts already. Is your info on thier computer? What other sloppy shit are they doing?
Holy shit am i the only one that sees it this way?
 
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