Would you inject this (pics)

[GearGodess]

Sorry i was in Brazil and some other countries travelling for business purposes.
The gear on photos is crashed. We can absolutely guarantee that it is not contaminated. Just crystallyzation of the active agent. And yes microwave oven is a good solution for this. Such things happen often if we deliver our vials. Absolutely nothing happens with it if you microwave it. Vials will not spark. Active agent will not be diactivated. We sterilize these vials at much higher temperatures and much longer.

I'm sorry but that's a HORRIBLE solution! You want people to initiate their own chemistry experiments? Now that's safe... WOW... you should be improving your methods to ensure you don't sell crap to people. People should buy gear and use it safely without needing to alter it in any way... that's just terrible work practice and ethic.

 

[PHL Official]

I'm sorry but that's a HORRIBLE solution! You want people to initiate their own chemistry experiments? Now that's safe... WOW... you should be improving your methods to ensure you don't sell crap to people. People should buy gear and use it safely without needing to alter it in any way... that's just terrible work practice and ethic.

do you have chemical education? where are experements here? if you don`t like microwave oven you can put them into hot water. i do not see any health risks here. any gear can crystallize at cold temperatures. if same vials were shipped in summer he would receive them untouched. there are in no way any health risks. finally lucabratzi contacted me per email and told he was trying to microwave nd it did not help. i consulted with our production team and they said there is no way that these crystalls would not melt in microwave oven. they asked me for video. i asked lucabratzi to provide video and promissed to replace of vials if this is really the case. but he preferred another solution, which is in my opinion much more risky as what i offered.
Even if we reship it could be easily he receives it crashed again. this is only influence of low temperature, nothing more.

 

[lucabratzi]

do you have chemical education? where are experements here? if you don`t like microwave oven you can put them into hot water. i do not see any health risks here. any gear can crystallize at cold temperatures. if same vials were shipped in summer he would receive them untouched. there are in no way any health risks. finally lucabratzi contacted me per email and told he was trying to microwave nd it did not help. i consulted with our production team and they said there is no way that these crystalls would not melt in microwave oven. they asked me for video. i asked lucabratzi to provide video and promissed to replace of vials if this is really the case. but he preferred another solution, which is in my opinion much more risky as what i offered.
Even if we reship it could be easily he receives it crashed again. this is only influence of low temperature, nothing more.

We never had that convo. Either someone is trying to scam you by impersonating me or your not telling the truth

 

[GearGodess]

do you have chemical education? where are experements here? if you don`t like microwave oven you can put them into hot water. i do not see any health risks here. any gear can crystallize at cold temperatures. if same vials were shipped in summer he would receive them untouched. there are in no way any health risks. finally lucabratzi contacted me per email and told he was trying to microwave nd it did not help. i consulted with our production team and they said there is no way that these crystalls would not melt in microwave oven. they asked me for video. i asked lucabratzi to provide video and promissed to replace of vials if this is really the case. but he preferred another solution, which is in my opinion much more risky as what i offered.
Even if we reship it could be easily he receives it crashed again. this is only influence of low temperature, nothing more.

so what exactly are the white particles that are 'growing' in the vial... that is definitely not what the typical newbie NPP crash looks like or 'frozen' gear, this is something completely different. It's hard to see exactly from the pics but definitely doesn't look safe.

 

[PHL Official]

We never had that convo. Either someone is trying to scam you by impersonating me or your not telling the truth

ow... i have a conversation per email with a guy with similar situation with npp... he showed me photos similar to yours. i ofered him to heat it up but he told he would prefer to open all vial, add more solvent and heat it... which by far not the best idea, because contents are sterilized, and finally if more solvent is added your injection site will burn as heck. this is for sure not what you would like to have. we have an optimum proportion based on experience.

 

[PHL Official]

so what exactly are the white particles that are 'growing' in the vial... that is definitely not what the typical newbie NPP crash looks like or 'frozen' gear, this is something completely different. It's hard to see exactly from the pics but definitely doesn't look safe.

this is crystallized npp powder. after it melts during producction/sterylization and can build crystals if it gets into cold conditions. try to put your npp vial into a deep-freezer, you will see what could happen. temperature impact on it will easily solve the problem.

 

[PHL Official]

these are photos of npp delivered from our store in russia to one of our customers at temperature almost -30 (Celcius). he received it like this. 3 heatings in microwave oven and everything was fine. He used it and had perfekt results.
you have probably not seen this form of crashed gear also.

 

[Sampei]

Heat water for 1.5 mins in microwave then put vial in water. Shook it a few times.

you doing it wrong, need more heat, put it directly in microwave works like a charm

 

[ComradVlad]

Fuck that, I wouldn't pin that if you gave it to me for free. Why would you even risk it? @Pharmacom Labs response is totally inadequate. If you loose an ass cheek he will tell you it's because your injection technique is messed up. Money is money, you can get more. You can't get yourself another body. Even if it is really just crashed do you really wanna risk it?

 

[Sampei]

Hold on a second if he heat it up correctly and it get's clear like it should be then it's just crashed gear... if it stays like that then it's something else.

I believe 1.5mins in microwave the water is not warm enough, I could be wrong.
Just place the whole vial in microwave and go for 30secs should work

 

[lucabratzi]

Hold on a second if he heat it up correctly and it get's clear like it should be then it's just crashed gear... if it stays like that then it's something else.

I believe 1.5mins in microwave the water is not warm enough, I could be wrong.
Just place the whole vial in microwave and go for 30secs should work

I did heat it and it did get clear.

But I don't believe this means it was just crashed. If u heat anything it would dissolve. Strange example would be if I put a few grains of sugar in and heat it the sugar would dissolve. But the sugar is still a contaminate

It could be mold and would melt under heat

 

[GearGodess]

Hold on a second if he heat it up correctly and it get's clear like it should be then it's just crashed gear... if it stays like that then it's something else.

I believe 1.5mins in microwave the water is not warm enough, I could be wrong.
Just place the whole vial in microwave and go for 30secs should work

You're crazy. Besides @lucabratzi vial has white fluff growth which isn't the same. It looks like bacteria or something contaminated it. And it doesn't even look like the Russia dude pic... wow @Pharmacom Labs looks like you have a lot of bad gear around that you are funding your trips with. These guys should be getting their money back or reship of properly made gear.

 

[Pomacanthidae]

So glad I went for their sale ....

 

[PHL Official]

You're crazy. Besides @lucabratzi vial has white fluff growth which isn't the same. It looks like bacteria or something contaminated it. And it doesn't even look like the Russia dude pic... wow @Pharmacom Labs looks like you have a lot of bad gear around that you are funding your trips with. These guys should be getting their money back or reship of properly made gear.

special for such bull-heads like you we offer Simec testing. he can send that vial to Simec and order its chromotography. All doubts will disappear after this.

 

[wedorecover]

So glad I went for their sale ....

I hear that was kinda excited about the sell now I'm not so sure

 

[Wunderpus]

That does not look like crashed gear at all.
This is crashed gear.:

When my test suspension crashes it looks JUST like his photo... Little balls, almost salt-like.

 

[Wunderpus]

do you have chemical education? where are experements here? if you don`t like microwave oven you can put them into hot water. i do not see any health risks here. any gear can crystallize at cold temperatures. if same vials were shipped in summer he would receive them untouched. there are in no way any health risks. finally lucabratzi contacted me per email and told he was trying to microwave nd it did not help. i consulted with our production team and they said there is no way that these crystalls would not melt in microwave oven. they asked me for video. i asked lucabratzi to provide video and promissed to replace of vials if this is really the case. but he preferred another solution, which is in my opinion much more risky as what i offered.
Even if we reship it could be easily he receives it crashed again. this is only influence of low temperature, nothing more.

They put it in the microwave, with the metal ring around the stopper? Hmmm

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

special for such bull-heads like you we offer Simec testing. he can send that vial to Simec and order its chromotography. All doubts will disappear after this.

Looks like the honeymoon is over
Why do I imagine this guy has a terrible Russian accent?

 

[PHL Official]

that metal ring will not even spark. no need to put it for 5 minutes. 30-40 seconds at decent power, after take out. wait a bit and put again. so 2-5 times depending on the effect. that`a all. it will not spark.

 

[Wunderpus]

that metal ring will not even spark. no need to put it for 5 minutes. 30-40 seconds at decent power, after take out. wait a bit and put again. so 2-5 times depending on the effect. that`a all. it will not spark.

I'll try this tonight, just to confirm your theory... My gut instinct tells me it WILL spark, and potentially explode. Will Pharmacom reimburse the cost of my microwave, if this happens?