yes, you can use a 29 gauge/'1/2" syringe!

[Bill Roberts]

Stretch, by no means did I mean to imply that you or anyone was ignorant on this. For example to make it clear that I don't see it that way, I included that even Dan Duchaine wasn't getting this. And he was a very smart and knowledgeable man.

The advantages are as Reinhart said. Three slow injections (e.g., taking about 30 seconds) of only 1 mL clearly seems to be much easier on the muscle tissue than one quick injection of 3 mL. Additionally, particularly when using short acting compounds sometimes the desired injection amount is only 1 mL, so it's not even a comparison of three smaller injections vs one bigger one, but 1 easy-on-the-muscle injection vs 1 harder-on-the-muscle one. The difference results from the different injection speed.

And then the smaller needle seems to bring the scar tissue issue down completely to zero.

Lastly, the shallower required depth allows a far wider choice of injection sites, avoiding the problem of "having" to inject in about the same site or fairly close to it again even though it was used fairly recently.

 

[MAYO]

Thanks for the response Bill. I have a Prop run coming up and would much rather pin ED with a 27-29g than a 23-25g. I will try my next cyp shot with a slin. Thanks again.

MAYO

 

[Stretch]

Stretch, by no means did I mean to imply that you or anyone was ignorant on this. For example to make it clear that I don't see it that way, I included that even Dan Duchaine wasn't getting this. And he was a very smart and knowledgeable man.

The advantages are as Reinhart said. Three slow injections (e.g., taking about 30 seconds) of only 1 mL clearly seems to be much easier on the muscle tissue than one quick injection of 3 mL. Additionally, particularly when using short acting compounds sometimes the desired injection amount is only 1 mL, so it's not even a comparison of three smaller injections vs one bigger one, but 1 easy-on-the-muscle injection vs 1 harder-on-the-muscle one. The difference results from the different injection speed.

And then the smaller needle seems to bring the scar tissue issue down completely to zero.

Lastly, the shallower required depth allows a far wider choice of injection sites, avoiding the problem of "having" to inject in about the same site or fairly close to it again even though it was used fairly recently.

Please don't misunderstand BR. No offense was taken. I was merely implying that one would have to be ignorant in order to hold fast to my previous belief, in light of your explanation of hydraulics!

 

[Get Some]

I think I'm still confused on how to properly backload a syringe. Can anyone help me out here? Is there a site or diagram or something? Or am I retarded?

 

[MAYO]

Bite the top off ur vial and pour it into the slin pin.......retard [)]

As I understand it:
1) Draw desired amount into syringe w/ larger gauge needle.
2) Remove plunger from slin pin
3) Insert needle of filled syringe into open end of slin pin barrel and dispense medication into slin pin barrel
4) Place slin pin plunger at opening of barrel, but do not insert
5) Simultaneously invert slin pin and insert plunger into barrel (the idea is to push the plunger in without pushing any gear out, you invert so that the air bubble is on the pin-side of the barrel as you push in the plunger)
6) Purge air and inject following sterile IM technique

 

[Bill Roberts]

Exactly!

And Stretch: Understood!

 

[soa700]

I can vouch for using a 29 gauge as I have been doing E3D over the last 2 years for my TRT.

My T enth comes in a prefilled syringe so I pull the plunger out of a 29 gauge & squirt it in there without a pin.

I have also filled a 29 gauge barrell by drawing my oil from an amp with a 21 gauge (any large pin will do) & filling the 29 gauge barrell the same way.

And the injection takes me approx 10 seconds (0.3 ml).

I started out by heating my oil with a hair dryer as I too thought the process would take forever but found it really was not required.

I must note though that I am now using a 27 gauge pin as I find it as painless as a 29 gauge & it makes everything a bit easier.

 

[Reinheart]

Bite the top off ur vial and pour it into the slin pin.......retard [)]

As I understand it:
1) Draw desired amount into syringe w/ larger gauge needle.
2) Remove plunger from slin pin
3) Insert needle of filled syringe into open end of slin pin barrel and dispense medication into slin pin barrel
4) Place slin pin plunger at opening of barrel, but do not insert
5) Simultaneously invert slin pin and insert plunger into barrel (the idea is to push the plunger in without pushing any gear out, you invert so that the air bubble is on the pin-side of the barrel as you push in the plunger)
6) Purge air and inject following sterile IM technique

Yes, this is the process exactly. Once again, thank you very much! 27gx0.5" is the best.

 

[MAYO]

Pinned my Vastus Medialis(teardrop) with 0.5cc in each today using 1/2" 29g. Pin was painless, we'll see if I can walk tomorrow.

 

[superone]

Is a 1/2 inch long 29 guage long enough to inject into the glutes? Will it go all the way into the muscle?

 

[Stretch]

Is a 1/2 inch long 29 guage long enough to inject into the glutes? Will it go all the way into the muscle?

All depends on how lean you are.

 

[Reinheart]

Is a 1/2 inch long 29 guage long enough to inject into the glutes? Will it go all the way into the muscle?

OMG! No!

Don't do that! Unless you have 6% bodyfat which i am sure you haven't.

 

[MR10X]

A 25g pin seems to be an exercise of patience for me...

For me 25 guage is painless,with oil based stuff it does take a lot pressure to inject some of the different types of steroids but thats good because it keeps you from injecting too fast which sometimes causes pain afterwards.

 

[superone]

OMG! No!

Don't do that! Unless you have 6% bodyfat which i am sure you haven't.

Thanks, how about a 27 guage 1 inch for the butt?


I only have 29 gauge 1/2 inch needle so I guess I'm going to have to shoot it into my delts since they are very lean. I already started my cycle so I cant really stop untill I get new syringes. I only bought these 29 guage 1/2 inch needles because I've heard of people using these and I would like to use the smallest possible size. I already did 2 shots in my glutes and maybe all of it didnt reach the muscle. I injected to where there was very little fat, but who knows. I do have a 6 pack, but I dont know my exact bf percentage because I never measured it.



Since I am lean, I'm guessing untill I get new syringes, I can shoot these 29 gauges into my delts? I've never done delts before, but at the very start of my cycle I remember injecting into my thighs with the 29 gauge, and I could barely walk for 3 days. This was my first injection ever though.



Thanks for the help.

 

[Reinheart]

Thanks, how about a 27 guage 1 inch for the butt?


I only have 29 gauge 1/2 inch needle so I guess I'm going to have to shoot it into my delts since they are very lean. I already started my cycle so I cant really stop untill I get new syringes. I only bought these 29 guage 1/2 inch needles because I've heard of people using these and I would like to use the smallest possible size. I already did 2 shots in my glutes and maybe all of it didnt reach the muscle. I injected to where there was very little fat, but who knows. I do have a 6 pack, but I dont know my exact bf percentage because I never measured it.



Since I am lean, I'm guessing untill I get new syringes, I can shoot these 29 gauges into my delts? I've never done delts before, but at the very start of my cycle I remember injecting into my thighs with the 29 gauge, and I could barely walk for 3 days. This was my first injection ever though.



Thanks for the help.

Personally i had major issues with short needles (0,5"), No matter when i injected, i would be in a vein. I injected test twice intraveinously (a very small quantity), Not worth the risk IMO.

 

[superone]

Personally i had major issues with short needles (0,5"), No matter when i injected, i would be in a vein. I injected test twice intraveinously (a very small quantity), Not worth the risk IMO.

Do you not aspirate? If you aspirate and no blood comes into the syringe, this means you are not injecting into a vein right?

 

[Reinheart]

Do you not aspirate? If you aspirate and no blood comes into the syringe, this means you are not injecting into a vein right?

That's the weird thing! I always aspirate. After i had injected a small quantity (bicep injection) i saw my veins bulge and felt a very intense pain so i aspirated again, and blood came into the syringe. Exactly the same thing happened at whatever spot i tried to inject to, even the fucking shoulders man. It was insane.

 

[superone]

Wow, that sucks! Well, It's going to be a couple weeks before I can get some syringes to my door, so for now I guess I will have to shoot in the shoulder just like when the doctors give you the flu shot. That seems like the best spot as my shoulder is pure hard muscle.



Do you think a 1 inch 27 gauge would work for the ass? I know people use a 1 inch 25 guage, so I'm assuming a 27 gauge would also work?

 

[Reinheart]

Wow, that sucks! Well, It's going to be a couple weeks before I can get some syringes to my door, so for now I guess I will have to shoot in the shoulder just like when the doctors give you the flu shot. That seems like the best spot as my shoulder is pure hard muscle.



Do you think a 1 inch 27 gauge would work for the ass? I know people use a 1 inch 25 guage, so I'm assuming a 27 gauge would also work?

1 inch 27g would be fine for glutes as long as you have high quality gear that can actually run through the 27g. The only thing that worries me about 27g is that it's very thin for IM injections, to the point of fragile. 25g is a much better choice IMO and it's not that thick that will cause pain.

 

[superone]

1 inch 27g would be fine for glutes as long as you have high quality gear that can actually run through the 27g. The only thing that worries me about 27g is that it's very thin for IM injections, to the point of fragile. 25g is a much better choice IMO and it's not that thick that will cause pain.

Hey bro, thanks for the advice. The Test I have runs through a 29 gauge without me having to push to hard. I hear ya about the fragile part though. I'm just worried about scar tissue with the 25 guage, though, over time.