Heath or Greene?

I want to know what it is that brings these guys to that next level look? I take drugs and train probably as hard as some
Competitors but will never look like they do. How do they get over that hump from being amateur to pro? What kind of drug combos do these guys really use?

It comes down to whos genetics do the best with the drugs.
 
How steve manages to be a firefighter and make the gains hes made I don't know.beast.

I don't know sometimes I'm drained the next day post shift especially on a long night. He probably works out of a slow station. He doesn't have any children or married other then a girlfriend so I suppose it isn't too much on his plate at the moment.
 
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legit kigtropin
 
Ramy is gona eventually take the "o" as well...look at that side chest shot.. that's that 3d look to the max.
 
Ramy is gona eventually take the "o" as well...look at that side chest shot.. that's that 3d look to the max.

That photo is insane... I've seen a shot of that pose and it did not look like that. Are you sure that photo isn't photoshopped?
 
I still say Ramy will never win sadly because he doesn't speak english however down the road I don't see anybody who can beat him.
 
It comes down to whos genetics do the best with the drugs.
Not just the drugs... who has the genetics to process the food, get the most out of gear, sleep the best, etc-then the genetics that go into your frame, your muscle connection points, shoulder to waist ratio.... the body you start with has a huge part in your end result- you could train, eat amd run the same gear as these guys and never get close. Good thing I have other abilities that generate income.
 
Not just the drugs... who has the genetics to process the food, get the most out of gear, sleep the best, etc-then the genetics that go into your frame, your muscle connection points, shoulder to waist ratio.... the body you start with has a huge part in your end result- you could train, eat amd run the same gear as these guys and never get close. Good thing I have other abilities that generate income.

I hear you on the realistic income....in the end who knows what kind of health defects ramy and all the rest will have from the meds after the rollercoaster ride is over.
 
Most shots I have seen of Ramy, he has got the puff!!

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But still, HOLY SHIT!!!


THE GREEN MACHINE

CASCA
 

The one with the green back ground is 2013 NY Pro, there is something funny about the other one. Maybe it is just from the angle and the green back ground, but it looks a little funny around the shoulders.
 
Ramy has to bring up his hams to match his quads. His hams are not bad, but his quad sweep is soooo damn crazy it makes his hams look under developed.

I will try and get a picture with Phil at Nationals if he is at the Gifted Nutrition both and the line is not crazy long.
 
He needs ham and calves. Yes he has both but that insane quad sweep make it seem off. True freak.

Totally has Phil beat in that comparison shot.
 
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