Are their any natural test boosters that are worth a damn an have clinical studies to prove it or is it just another $ scam an there all a joke?? personally ive never taken them an was just curious to hear all your thoughts on the subject!!
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waste of money IMO.
ironwill1951
New Member
be honest with yourself if you think your test is low go to your doctor, if you want to gain size do a cycle , its as simple as that, some crap you buy at gnc is not going to work.
thanks guys for that...i wud much rather do a cycle anyways than to fool aroun an waste my money on bs!!!
I tried viron by Black Lion and didn't notice anything.
I do know of one natural test booster that works every time for me. The sight of wet juicy Pussy. Works like a charm. Get my swole on.
I do know of one natural test booster that works every time for me. The sight of wet juicy Pussy. Works like a charm. Get my swole on.
Yeah that one works for me too EBK ,lol.
I tryed all the natural test boosters some yrs back before I went on TRT , and got nothing but headaches and flushing . My test level never went over 300ng until I got put on TRT , then everything got harder . You cant beat real test , except maybe a Clomid restart.....~Ogh
thanks for all of your help an im defiantly not gunna spend my hard earned money on shit that's not gunna give me the results I want..its gunna be gear for me!!!
Vendetta22
Banned
All the " natty t boosters" you could want can be found in your food, if you know enough. 
thanks for the advice an I love to eat..like a damn human garbage disposal!! lolAll the " natty t boosters" you could want can be found in your food, if you know enough.
Vendetta22
Banned
Think seafood brah.
hell yeah I love chowin down on sea food..if it wasn so damn expensive..im cookn 2 batches of chincken breasts as we speak..getting them ready for the week ahead!!! I would love to eat more seafood if it wasn't so high..poor people have poor ways lol an chicken breasts are the cheapest an cleanest way for me to keep my protein intake up!!!
HuckingFuge
New Member
if you can buy it OTC it is junk. if you can't buy it without a script or have to attain it illegally you are not going to get anything that works. unless you are in a foreign country in Asia or any place south of the border.
fokai500
Member
It's all junk trust me. I've tried all of it still can't believe I've wasted all that money on bullshit.
"exhaust the body. proceed the mind. cultivate the spirit."
"exhaust the body. proceed the mind. cultivate the spirit."
true that brother...wish i had known then what i know now!!!!
Jay Munoz
New Member
The only one I believe is actually worth anything is DAA (D-Aspartic Acid); it is backed with clinical studies, as well as many personal experiences (both myself and others). Also if purchased as just pure bulk powder (and not as the main ingredient in one of those new products), pure DAA is also one of the cheapest test-boosting supps around. I always include it as part of my PCT protocol (alongside everything else of course)
DAA is junk for boasting testosterone levels and why do you always bump up the old threads with this nonsense?
Jay Munoz
New Member
Wasn't a particularly old thread, and as far as natural testosterone boosters go it does in fact effectively work to raise levels. No natural booster is going to provide SERM-like boosts in levels, but as far as OTC booster name one that is more effective than DAA? Not quite sure what you base your comment on as it is not only anecdotally effective, but is also the one with the most studies and tests backing it's claims/results
I never said there were any other OTC boosters more effective but even with that being the case, DAA still is not effective. Do not confuse statistical significance with clinical significance.
Yes, it has plenty of studies showing it SLIGHTLY raises TT in the acute phase but after a month or so, in eugonadal males, TT goes back to baseline.....meaning it does absolute jack shit for you.
1)
Abstract
It was hypothesized that d-aspartic acid (D-ASP) supplementation would not increase endogenous testosterone levels or improve muscular performance associated with resistance training. Therefore, body composition, muscle strength, and serum hormone levels associated with the hypothalamo-pituitary-gonadal axis were studied after 28 days of resistance training and D-ASP supplementation. Resistance-trained men resistance trained 4 times/wk for 28 days while orally ingesting either 3 g of placebo or 3 g of D-ASP. Data were analyzed with 2 × 2 analysis of variance (P < .05). Before and after resistance training and supplementation, body composition and muscle strength, serum gonadal hormones, and serum D-ASP and d-aspartate oxidase (DDO) were determined. Body composition and muscle strength were significantly increased in both groups in response to resistance training (P< .05) but not different from one another (P > .05). Total and free testosterone, luteinizing hormone, gonadotropin-releasing hormone, and estradiol were unchanged with resistance training and D-ASP supplementation (P > .05). For serum D-ASP and DDO, D-ASP resulted in a slight increase compared with baseline levels (P > .05). For the D-ASP group, the levels of serum DDO were significantly increased compared with placebo (P < .05). The gonadal hormones were unaffected by 28 days of D-ASP supplementation and not associated with the observed increases in muscle strength and mass. Therefore, at the dose provided, D-ASP supplementation is ineffective in up-regulating the activity of the hypothalamo-pituitary-gonadal axis and has no anabolic or ergogenic effects in skeletal muscle.
2) Out of 23 participants, 20 had increased testosterone. From a mean of 4.5 ± 0.6 ng/ml serum at zero time, it rose to 6.4 ± 0.8 ng/ml, a 42% increase (Table (Table1).1). Statistical analyses indicated a significant effect [ANOVA with repeated measures: treatment effect: F(1,82) = 7.724, p < 0.0082] and a significant interaction between treatment and days [F(2,82) = 32.599; P < 0.0001].
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2774316/
Look at the second study. A 42% increase I'm TT. To this you say it's not only anecdotally effective but has the most claims and results to back it.
To you I say: 4.5ng/ml = 450ng/dL which were baseline levels. After treatment the 42% increase raised levels to 6.4ng/ml = 640ng/dL.
Now I ask you, just what exactly do you think that increase will do and how effective will it be?
